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October 10, 2012 9:27:50 PM

hello. i am planning a new build in the next 3 weeks. i am budget minded user looking to build an up to date,upgradeable
system for the next 5 years or so. i will not need a monitor. will need to upgrade to win 7 pro. i am not a gamer but do like reasonable performance. i have looked at tiger and newegg.the 2 are within 13 dollars of each other.

proposed build: mb p8z77-m asus,intel i3-2100 processor,antec 300 case w2 fans,corsair builders series cx500 v2 psu,
lite-on 24x dvd writer, g.skill ripjaws 1.5, 1333 2x4gb kit,wd blue 500gb sata hd, and win 7 pro os.

would appreciate any comments.

aharq

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October 10, 2012 10:54:02 PM

You don't need a Z77 board with a i3-2100 processor. Get a H61 to save some money. Or if you want higher performance, get a H77 and a i5-3450.
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October 11, 2012 11:55:46 AM

If you want to stick with i3, I recommend you get the i3-3225. Much better performance, and on board graphics (if you don't want to get seperate graphics card). If you want higher performance, still, get an i5, say i5-3470. Either of those should be linked with a H77 mobo. If you want to stick with Asus (good quality), then something like P8H77-V LE, or P8H77-M LE. With i3, should be around same total price as the i3-2100 and Z77 mobo, but better performance.
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October 11, 2012 11:59:57 AM

PS If you are not planning to add a powerful graphics card, you don't need 500w power supply. Would recommend modular supply from PC Power&Cooling, their Silencer Mklll 400w.
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October 11, 2012 12:04:54 PM

doesnt iel wanna reliese a new socket next year i think its called linfield. i also suggest you get the i3-3225 so youll have an awsome dual core pro and maby if you want to upgrade in the future get a 660 ti or something will put your fps through the roof
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October 12, 2012 12:03:54 AM

malbluff said:
If you want to stick with i3, I recommend you get the i3-3225. Much better performance, and on board graphics (if you don't want to get seperate graphics card). If you want higher performance, still, get an i5, say i5-3470. Either of those should be linked with a H77 mobo. If you want to stick with Asus (good quality), then something like P8H77-V LE, or P8H77-M LE. With i3, should be around same total price as the i3-2100 and Z77 mobo, but better performance.


dear malbluff:
thanks for reply. i will look up the i3-3225 chip and see its specs.i like asus boards. once the bugs are out of them they are fine. why would a h77 be better than a z77 chipset? reviews of the z77 were good. ill look up the 2 asus boards mentioned.


aharq
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October 12, 2012 12:11:10 AM

saad123abc said:
doesnt iel wanna reliese a new socket next year i think its called linfield. i also suggest you get the i3-3225 so youll have an awsome dual core pro and maby if you want to upgrade in the future get a 660 ti or something will put your fps through the roof



dear saad123abc:
tnx for reply. i will look up the 13-3225 processor. h77 sounds good. may i ask why the h77 performs better than a z77 chipset? i have no clue. im using an amd single core with a basic mobo. its been 6 years and probably ready to be given to a relative.

sincerely,
aharq
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October 12, 2012 12:14:05 AM

The H77 does not perform better than the Z77. It suits your purpose better.

Why would you need racing slicks on a taxi cab?

Same idea.
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October 12, 2012 12:18:54 AM

Deemo13 said:
You don't need a Z77 board with a i3-2100 processor. Get a H61 to save some money. Or if you want higher performance, get a H77 and a i5-3450.


dear Deemo13:
thanks for reply. the h77 chipset sounds good. whats wrong with the z77? the i5-3450 is a quad core Ivy.do i really
need the price and performance of this processor? the i3 series seems a good place to start while the pricing of the i5's come down.


sincerely,
aharq
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October 12, 2012 12:25:48 AM

aharq said:
dear Deemo13:
thanks for reply. the h77 chipset sounds good. whats wrong with the z77? the i5-3450 is a quad core Ivy.do i really
need the price and performance of this processor? the i3 series seems a good place to start while the pricing of the i5's come down.


sincerely,
aharq


Just wrote it above. If you get a nice H77, it will just be cheaper than the Z77 for stuff you don't need.

Like the Toyota Prius doesn't need a V8 or racing tires.

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October 12, 2012 10:44:54 AM

The Z77 chipset only has two advantages, over H77
1) The ability to overclock CPU, which is no use to you, unless you are going to use a "K" processor.
2) The ability to have TWO nVidia graphics cards, in SLi. Again, highly unlikely you will ever need that, if you are not a gaming addict.
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October 12, 2012 11:01:50 PM

malbluff said:
The Z77 chipset only has two advantages, over H77
1) The ability to overclock CPU, which is no use to you, unless you are going to use a "K" processor.
2) The ability to have TWO nVidia graphics cards, in SLi. Again, highly unlikely you will ever need that, if you are not a gaming addict.



dear malbluf:
thanks. exact info i needed.any thoughts on the intel dh77eb board? asrock h77m? atx or matx form factor mobos?
i prefer matx but can live with either.


aharq
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October 12, 2012 11:26:53 PM

Not familiar with the Intel board, assume it's OK, as is the ASRock. Asus and Gigabyte also do similar boards. mATX if fine, for what you want.
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October 13, 2012 12:28:22 AM

malbluff said:
Not familiar with the Intel board, assume it's OK, as is the ASRock. Asus and Gigabyte also do similar boards. mATX if fine, for what you want.


most of these mobos are geared as media types,so there not performance based. basicallly i need a steady mobo
with future upgradability to a 15 when prices go down.

aharq
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October 13, 2012 9:12:35 AM

I'm not sure what you mean by "not performance based". For most Z77 mobos, there is a virtually identical (in terms of performance/features) H77 board. The only thing that has to change, is the lack of CPU overclocking, and, usually, a limitation on the use of multiple graphics cards, which you say you don't need.
There is nothing to stop you using a Z77 mobo, like Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H, or even ASRock Z77 Extreme 6, or Asus P8Z77-V Pro, but all you will really gain is overclocking ability, should you wish to upgrade to i5-3570K.
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October 13, 2012 2:51:11 PM

malbluff said:
I'm not sure what you mean by "not performance based". For most Z77 mobos, there is a virtually identical (in terms of performance/features) H77 board. The only thing that has to change, is the lack of CPU overclocking, and, usually, a limitation on the use of multiple graphics cards, which you say you don't need.
There is nothing to stop you using a Z77 mobo, like Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H, or even ASRock Z77 Extreme 6, or Asus P8Z77-V Pro, but all you will really gain is overclocking ability, should you wish to upgrade to i5-3570K.


malbluff

point well taken. i have narrowed the mobos to 3 h77 types. as for the processor, several forum responses were for the i3-3225. ok for me.the price for the processor is more than the board. is that typical?


aharq
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October 13, 2012 6:17:46 PM

Unless you are using a high-end specialist board (like RoG), for overclocking, it will often be cheaper than CPU, or similar price. There's no point in paying for things you don't need, unless it's to give a sensible expansion route.
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