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August 18, 2012 4:35:27 PM

Ok so here it is in a short paraagraph

In a month I will be able to aford a 7870 ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and I was wondering is this the best card i can get(performance) I heard the the 660ti is coming out soon and i was wondering will it be out in a month and will it be 300, and do you think that that is a better choice then 7870... I play mostly open map games(gta IV, fallout, bf3, etc etc)

thanks for the help in advance!

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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2012 4:41:26 PM

I wouldn't get the 660Ti unless it drops somewhat below the 300 mark. The 670 is 399 and it beats the 660ti. The 7870 is good too but if you are gonna be playing bf3/gta I would go with nvidia.
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2012 4:49:01 PM

I'd get a GTX 660 ti and overclock it... The reviews show that it can reach GTX 670 area performance pretty easily.
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2012 5:00:01 PM

OP, if you can't afford 7950/7970 - definitely get 7870. 660Ti really isn't worth it.
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a c 229 U Graphics card
August 18, 2012 7:49:56 PM

How good the cards seem to be is much dependent on who does the reviews.... I found THG's review somewhat ...er shall we say "curious".

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According to the settings we chose on a per-game basis, picked to maximize visual quality at playable frame rates, the GeForce GTX 660 Ti is close to, if not slightly slower than a Radeon HD 7870. However, after comparing lab results, the outcome of our testing appears tied to the way we picked settings for each game, likely taxing the 660 Ti's memory bandwidth more than less-demanding options would.

Perhaps our settings favor the Radeon cards. Perhaps theirs favor the GeForce-based boards. And maybe the most real-world outcome lies somewhere in between. But, I believe the truth is that GeForce GTX 660 Ti performs within 5%, plus or minus, of the Radeon HD 7870


I don't think I have ever seen a review couched in quite such a dramatic way.

OTOH, Techpowerup comes up with a completely different scenario. In their test suite (Alan Wake, Batman Arkham City, BF3, BattleForge, Civilization 5, Crysis. Crysis 2, Dragon Age II, Hard Reset, Metro 2033, Stalker CoP, Starcraft 2, Shogun 2, Skyrim, WoW, Diablo II, Max Payne 3, Sniper Elite V2), we see the following:

The 7870 finishes with a total of 1236.6 fps and delivers that at a cost of $0.23 per frame.
The 7950 finishes with a total of 1348.2 fps and delivers that at a cost of $0.24 per frame.
The 7970 finishes with a total of 1532.8 fps and delivers that at a cost of $0.30 per frame.

The 660Ti finishes with a total of 1387.4 fps and delivers that at a cost of $0.22 per frame.

The 660 Ti finishes about 3 % ahead of the 7950 but does it for $30 (10%) cheaper

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August 18, 2012 8:53:20 PM

So then do you guys recommend the 660ti becuase it sure seems taht way considering that it is thesame proice but better performance... ill look it up but any other measurements would help me!
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a c 1378 U Graphics card
August 18, 2012 9:57:05 PM

Yes for $300 it is a solid buy.
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2012 10:43:32 PM

PanicMaster85 said:
So then do you guys recommend the 660ti

Not me, that's for sure. I suggest that you get yourself the 7870, or 7950 if you can afford it.
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August 19, 2012 12:27:58 AM

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So then do you guys recommend the 660ti

can i hear an argument... because from what i see the performance is better and it favors the kind of games i like to play(also add minecraft to that list)
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August 19, 2012 12:30:21 AM

rolli59 said:
Yes for $300 it is a solid buy.

That sounds great! but again can you guys show me somthing(benchmarks for the games i like) thank you! :D 

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Do you think my system could play gta IV icenhancer max if i got the 660ti or 7870ghz
cpu-FX-8120
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August 19, 2012 12:56:51 AM

I like the 660ti more then the 7870 because from what the benchmarks say it supports the kind of games i play a lot more then 7870... and is not far behind on the others
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2012 1:02:32 AM

Yeh 7870 is more for other games non nvidia programmed for physix such as Batman/Bf3 work better with AMD. The 7870 is also more for being faster at higher resolutions. If you mainly play nvidia type games at 1920x1080 then the 660ti should be good for you if you don't mind spending at least $300.

A lot of games are available with Nvidia based graphics which is why I may just get the 670 although I am tempted to go for the 7870 to try it out.
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August 19, 2012 2:50:09 AM

yeah but what kind of game is a nvidia game? and im really kinda same on both sides but im not sure
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2012 2:57:40 AM

I meant 7970 to try it out. Nvidia games I mean games that perform better on Nvidia gpu rather than amd. For exampe BF3, Batman games, Portal.
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August 19, 2012 4:16:00 AM

yeah ok how about gta IV that is a big one for me i really want to install the icenhancer mod but that seems to be VERY hard to run... also can this run minecraft/tekkit very well do you konw...

Also what is crysis best on nvidia or AMD?
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2012 4:20:52 AM

Crysis is one of those games that demands a lot. It will give you good frame rate at 1920x1080 on both Amd and Nvidia, with a little more fps on the nvidia cards. Of course as you go up in higher resolution both types of cards are somewhat similar as long as you aren't comparing the 7970 or 680.

My brother plays minecraft on a gtx 555. Stupid card from dell but it could run crysis 2 on high and fSX also.

Not sure on GTA IV I hear its demanding too. It hasn't been compared much in benchmarks because both types of cards are close with that game. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to run that mod if the card is powerful enough and you have a good cpu/ram too.
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August 19, 2012 5:16:07 AM

well the mod is very demanding...also i can play minecraft just wondering if the faster gpu would help with low fps even though i got almost the same with a 40$ gpu :/  so i dont know... what is the most demanding game out there?
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2012 1:44:36 PM

I would saw Crysis and BF3. You should be able to play Minecraft thats nothing but pixels lol.
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August 19, 2012 3:04:16 PM

yeah i know :p  but that game is bullshit coded... which card is better at tessellation proccessing... I heard the 7XXX series has a very good one does the 660ti have a comparable performance?
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2012 3:25:09 PM

If you are talking about TSAA then the nvidia cards have that too and it does a pretty good job at not using more resources really. The new gen nvidia's have I think two new tessalation and anti-aliasing technologies and for the games that support it, does pretty good.

If its a month from now that you will be buying the card then I would wait and see how the price game goes. If the price of the 660ti doesn't drop or no deals show up and the 7870 or 7970 do show price drops then go for one of them.

Sounds like for what you want to do the 660ti should be fine. I would go for a 670 but I don't know if that is in the price range you want. Sounds like from what you want to do, nvidia would be a better choice.
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August 19, 2012 3:36:17 PM

ok thank you... so can the 660ti handle any game on 16aa?
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2012 3:48:11 PM

At a resolution of 1920x1080 I'm not sure at full 16aa. You may have to turn that down a bit. Not sure why 16aa would be necessary anyway. I would turn down aa to highten some other options.
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August 19, 2012 5:39:50 PM

doesnt a higher aa increase the picture quality?

also I understand that i should make sure everything else is at top performance but I was just wondering which card filters it faster
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2012 5:45:04 PM

Aa is for the edges and smoothing, as long as u have other settings on high you shouldn't need too much aa.
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August 19, 2012 6:17:59 PM

alright how much would you say is the best of quality/peformance?
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2012 6:28:23 PM

I would say x4 or x8 would be enough. And either card will do that without issues.
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August 19, 2012 10:33:10 PM

OK thanks i think i will come back to the forum once i get the money and make sure im making the right decicsion :D  but until then i will watch the prices and decide from there! thanks for the help guys really appreciate it!
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August 19, 2012 10:34:05 PM

Best answer selected by Panicmaster85.
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2012 10:53:19 PM

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