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October 11, 2012 7:49:09 AM

Hi everyone,

I am looking to build my first custom build for gaming. I have been pushed away from out of the box game pretty strongly so I thought I would get some advice or recommended builds.

Purchase time within the month
No hardware preference( have heard good things about amd?)
I don not need a monitor or mouse and keyboard
I do need an os
Most important my budget is from 700-900
Located in billings , Montana
Any advise would be much appreciated

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October 11, 2012 8:04:03 AM

if it helps I'm primarily interested in playing diablo 3, guild wars 2, and possibly skyrim
a b 4 Gaming
October 11, 2012 8:06:46 AM

This will play pretty much anything. Add your choice of case with the remaining $55.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($234.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($38.91 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ CompUSA)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $843.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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October 11, 2012 4:37:29 PM

Ok so what kind of case should I get an atx mid atx, how many fans should I look for
a c 287 4 Gaming
October 11, 2012 4:45:33 PM

Someone Somewhere said:
This will play pretty much anything. Add your choice of case with the remaining $55.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($234.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($38.91 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ CompUSA)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $843.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


You forgot the case. I'd also skip the SSD on a $900 budget - you can always add one later. And there's no need to purchase a Z77 with a locked CPU.

Here's what I would get:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($251.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $911.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
October 11, 2012 4:49:18 PM

That looks really good.. So this should be able to play almost any game I have right?
October 11, 2012 5:12:13 PM

I had a question as well about solid state drive for the os would it be worth increasing the budget a bit to include ssd?
a b 4 Gaming
October 11, 2012 5:26:49 PM

It would be incredibly worth getting an SSD - they make windows boot incredibly fast, make everything feel 'snappier', and loading screens for any games on them go by in miliseconds.
October 11, 2012 5:33:14 PM

DarkSable said:
It would be incredibly worth getting an SSD - they make windows boot incredibly fast, make everything feel 'snappier', and loading screens for any games on them go by in miliseconds.



Excellent. Should i then go with just a small ssd for the os and use the one in g-units build for storage?
October 11, 2012 5:37:21 PM

If you haven't yet, I would sign up for Newegg's promotional emails. They regularly run windows 7 OEM for $80 if you only need one copy.

Also, I would recommend going through Tom's articles for some comparisons of your components for equivalent products that may be on sale. Newegg, NCIX, and amazon will normally have some deal or rebate on each item.

I think it would help you also to read through dozens of new build threads that are +/- a hundred of your budget to get an idea of what you can get and where to compromise.

Once you have in mind what you may want, use the partpicker.com to price shop if you are willing to order from a few places. I bought from Newegg, NCIX, Amazon and Microcenter for my build. That probably saved $80 or so from 100% Newegg or NCIX.
October 11, 2012 5:44:24 PM

I also just noticed that the graphics card listed above in g-units build did not support a vga monitor so i would have to change my monitor as well. It does have an hdmi port, would it be bad to use my small tv as a monitor for a while until i can afford to purchase a set monitor?
October 11, 2012 6:02:50 PM

matrimiabar said:
I also just noticed that the graphics card listed above in g-units build did not support a vga monitor so i would have to change my monitor as well. It does have an hdmi port, would it be bad to use my small tv as a monitor for a while until i can afford to purchase a set monitor?


I will have to double check but I think most gpus come with a vga/dvi adapter. My HIS 7870 did. Go to the product page of the graphics card and check contents to see. Most GPUs will have manual, cd, crossfire or sli jumper, and maybe this adapter.

Else, you can probably purchase an adapter for cheap online.
a b 4 Gaming
October 11, 2012 6:20:22 PM

I made you a build that is much more future proof than the ones stated above.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z68A-GD55 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($92.91 @ CompUSA)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.54 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Xigmatek ASGARD PRO (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($79.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS224-06 DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $848.36
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

You should definetly check it out.
Ill just compare it to g-unit's build

CONS:
Overclockable processor - potential to be up to 40% faster (more likely to be around 30-35%)
Faster, higher hapacity hard drive
Better power supply - more future proof and it also has a modular cabling system which means there won't be a lot of floating cabels in your case
Which brings me to the case which is well... debatable if it's better or worse but i'd take it over the HAF 912 any day.
Faster graphics card
Better optical drive - faster writing , smoother playback

I also included 16GB's of ram which is pretty pointless but since it's just 15$ more than a 8GB kit why not :) 

CONS : The graphics's cards outputs arent as flexable.This means that you may need to buy a adapter if you want to game on three monitors at once.
Slightly higher power consumption
More expensive (more than justified IMO)
a b 4 Gaming
October 11, 2012 6:21:39 PM

ugh pardon me it's not more expensive but i cant edit my post...
October 11, 2012 6:24:05 PM

An option with a better video card

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $869.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
a c 287 4 Gaming
October 11, 2012 11:24:23 PM

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most graphics cards today dont have vga output, just buy a cheap hdmi or dvi to vga adapter if your video card doesnt come prepacked with one (most do).

G-units build is very solid, and probably the best on here so far. That being said, i found room to to squeeze some nice improvements onto what he has already, most notably a SSD and a nicer graphics card (7950)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/k1ID
Total: $909.88


On a really tight budget like that I always try to skip unnecessary items that you can always add later - the SSD being one of them. I'd rather put that money into getting stronger components initially. Some things like the case and PSU you can carry over to other builds, but the motherboard and CPU, things like that, will not always be easy to add later on. And I'm not the biggest fan of Intel SSDs by any means because there's no support for them and they still insist on using the outdated Sandforce 2.0 controller, which, while fast, is not as proven as Marvell (Crucial M4, Samsung 830), Indilinx (OCZ Vertex 4), and LAMD (Sandisk Ultra, Corsair Neutron), those will be far better choices.
October 12, 2012 5:07:07 PM

Thank you all so much for your help in this case i think i am going to go with g-units build with the addition of OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD). I will let you all know how it turns out and be back if i need any more help!!!
a c 287 4 Gaming
October 12, 2012 5:59:14 PM

DarkSable said:
It would be incredibly worth getting an SSD - they make windows boot incredibly fast, make everything feel 'snappier', and loading screens for any games on them go by in miliseconds.


I know what an SSD does, I just don't think it's worth it on this tight of a budget - if it were higher I'd add one without thinking about it. You can always add one later.

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i hear ya but it can be a total pain in the ass to reinstall windows after youve used it for sometime on a different HDD, and if he can fit it in his budget (which i did) why not ?


I've added four SSDs to existing builds and never had a single issue reinstalling Windows. Reinstalling all your other programs can be a pain but it doesn't take as long as it used to on a traditional mechanical drive.
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