First time builder - $850 budget gaming pc advice!

[SkyQ88]

Approximate Purchase Date: next few days

Budget Range: $850

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming/movies/surfing

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg

Location: Houston,TX

Parts Preferences: none/ value for $

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No/Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: haven't decided on a monitor yet

Additional Comments: SC2/D3/CSS

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: been on a laptop :/ if there's anything you would change please suggest it looking to stay around $850 - this is what I currently have put together. thanks in advance for the help

Current build:
LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827106289 - $17.99

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811129066 - $69.99

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152185 - $84.99

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7850 OC 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (11200-01-20G)
Item #: N82E16814102984 - $209.99

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139027 - $59.99

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B
Item #: N82E16820145345 - $44.99

ASRock B75M LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813157313 - $64.99

Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.5GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637I53450
Item #: N82E16819116506 -194.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Item #: N82E1683211698 - $99.99

TOTAL: $847 + $16 for shipping (all from newegg)

 

[SkyQ88]

here you go with shipping all from newegg, tried to change as little as possible making improvements only.
Total (before mail-in rebates): $857.85
Mail-in Rebates: $-10.00
Total: $847.85
Fit a nice vertex4 SSD in there ;D

I'm not seeing any links ? thanks for the reply!

 

[SkyQ88]

here you go sorry about that, bumped up your SSD from 64>128 gigs while i was at it
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/k2EK
Total (before mail-in rebates): $876.86
Mail-in Rebates: $-20.00
Total: $856.86

feel free to go with the vertex4 64gb SSD if you wanna save 30 quick bucks

cool man. looks nice. ty

 

[SkyQ88]

I decided to go ahead and pick up a new monitor, is there a good gaming one that's under $200 on newegg some1 recommends ? (>21")

 

[aznshinobi]

Personally, for the money, you could do better.

Check out my $650 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore#module146695821
Swap the 7850 for the 7870 (+70 before a $20 MIR):
http://www.amazon.com/HD7870-DC2-2GD5-DisplayPort-Utilities-PCI-Express-Graphics/dp/B007JLFVNO%3FSubscriptionId%3D19BAZMZQFZJ6G2QYGCG2%26tag%3Dsquid1240995-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB007JLFVNO
OS here (+$69): http://www.softwaresupplygroup.com/microsoft-windows-7-home-premium-64-bit-oem-branded.html
Total: $779

The website for the OS is legit, BBB A+ approved so you won't be scammed: http://www.bbb.org/memphis/business-reviews/computer-software-publishers-and-developers/software-supply-group-in-cordova-tn-44050536

Also the 7870 is MUCH better than the 7850 and per your games, although not demanding now, as games get more demanding it'd be nicer to have a GPU that would last.

Also, if you want, you still have about $70 left over for a SSD:
http://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7PC128B-WW/dp/B0077CR60Q%3FSubscriptionId%3D19BAZMZQFZJ6G2QYGCG2%26tag%3Dsquid1240995-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB0077CR60Q
Would spend slightly more to purchase a 128GB SSD for a fairly decent price. Solid one at that.

 

[aznshinobi]

^weak build , weak blog cmon man u can do better

How is that even correct? My build is $20 more than yours before rebates for a better GPU, a better PSU, and a better motherboard. Granted maybe the HDD is smaller but not everyone needs a 1.5TB HDD WITH A 128GB SSD... Gtfo and stop trolling.

 

[DarkSable]

SkyQ, here's the biggest bit of advice I can give to you... don't buy a 19280x1080 monitor. Save yourself a lot of money and get a 1600x900 monitor - it'll be cheaper, and here's the biggest thing.
A budget build? Will run a LOT better on a lower resolution. My 9800GT could run Crysis 2 on high settings at that resolution - it couldn't even manage low smoothly at HD.

 

[aznshinobi]

Really now? The 7850 struggles at 1080P on high settings depending on the game, so perhaps you should look into that jrgong if are as wise as you say you are.

I suggest that you calm yourself and respect other members. I've seen you multiple times disrespect other members when there is no reason to.

 

[DarkSable]

850 + 200 is PLENTY for a 1080p monitor, and the higher resolution looks MUCH MUCH better

... at what settings - everything turned down as far as it can go? For what games? WoW?

My GTX670 struggles with running Crysis two with HD11 and HD textures on ultra settings at 1080p. Plug it into my old monitor, and it gets 80+ fps at the same settings.

Sure, HD resolutions look a little bit better... it's not that big of a difference, though, and it gives you WAY higher framerates with non-extreme builds.

 

[ArcticWonder]

epic fail!!! argfh hold on lol i didnt save it have to start from scratch

Funniest thing all day XD Thanks for your hilarious tomfoolery

 

[aznshinobi]

Well then your statement of running games at 1080P with the 7850 @ High/Ultra settings is just flat out false.
BF3: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7850_HD_7870/8.html
Metro: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7850_HD_7870/17.html

Crysis 2 was simpler to run, the 7850 handled it fine with the DX11 patch but TechPowerUp doesn't say if they turned on AA.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7850_HD_7870/13.html
Of course it should be kept in mind that Crysis 3 is supposed to be the true test for our GPUs, if so then the 7850 wouldn't stand a chance. The 7870 would at least hold its ground a bit better.

What if the OP moves on to different games? It's not like everyone plays those games forever, once the new more demanding sequel releases or perhaps games like BF4 and Crysis 3 release, the OP would like to play those. The 7850 will not hold its ground, it's great for the price but you couldn't even fit it into your budget so I wouldn't be talking.

 

[DarkSable]

That is the most demanding title under the absolute highest settings. He can easily get 40+ fps on bf3 maxed. Furthermore the games he stated he WILL be playing Starcraft2, Counterstrike Source, and Diablo 3 will all GREATLY benefit from a higher res monitor as they will be maxed EASILY regardless of resolution.

I was using it as an example, since it's the only thing I can't max out.

However, you do have a valid point there - I missed that the OP is going to be playing relativity hardware-easy games.

I retract my recommendation for a lower resolution screen, and as you were asking for advise, asus makes very good monitors.

 

[ArcticWonder]

I looked at the OP's info and he joined TH just today.. Look at the example of the site your argument is setting... We don't need vile insults and opinions.. What we need are accurate benchmarks and good advice.

 

[aznshinobi]

Well atleast you read half my post, thats half a post more than before It shows 40.1 fps (hardly struggling more than playable, and you can always turn down AA or AF if really needed, o noes only ULTRA what a struggle!)running at GREATER than 1080p and those tests were conducted at a time when CCC was at 12.6 at the most! 12.7 provided a HUGE upgrade in performance!

Please show me where 12.7 increased the performance of BF3 by a large margin? 40 FPS varies from person to person, for my 40 FPS is not playable frames as I can still tell there is lag. Also their trials were conducted in Single-player. They don't account for PCs 64-player support with huge firefights. Their benches show my 7870 handling BF3 at Ultra on 1680x1050 fine, but when I'm playing on MP it's not as smooth as it shows.

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/Catalystbetadriver1.aspx
I'll give you the 3.3% increase AMD rates the 12.7b drivers giving, 12.8 didn't have any fixes/improvements other than for Crossfire in BF3. But the release notes state no performance increases in 12.8. Leaving your argument for driver effecting frames moot. 3.3% would still put the 7850 at 41 FPS if that. Not a big deal.

Cmon man give me a break, it must have been hard to fit your inflated head up your narrow ass.

Nice to see your class is present.

Right now your build just has a worse GPU, MB, and PSU and you're trying to say that my build is bad? Wow, I'm appalled honestly.

 

[DarkSable]

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