$800 budget Gaming PC (SGD) SINGAPOREANS PLS HELP!

[spectrumn]

Hey guys so im a Singaporean student looking to custom build a budget $800 gaming pc, but i am afraid to build myself for fear i screw things up (i have done alot of reading up on these things though).

I was thinking of buying parts from a local mall (Sim Lim Square, positive testimonials on Fuwell ) and i don't know whether to let them put the parts together for me or not.

Also, newegg is out of the option because it doesn't ship to singapore and i would rather buy parts instantly from a local store, and i'm worried that the cheap prices of PC parts that i researched online would be more expensive when converted into SGD,

pls Help! im 15 and have been living with a sucky 5-yr old laptop and i can't take it anymore! help is greatly appreciated! D


Approximate Purchase Date: next couple of weeks

Budget Range: SGD $600 - $800 total cost

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Mostly Gaming, movies,surfing the net

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, OS and maybe a monitor, my bro has an extra 1440x900 monitor that he might spare me

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, pcpartpicker.com ?

Country: Singapore

Parts Preferences: I'm used to intel processors and nvidia geforce graphics card, and anything else will do

Overclocking: Yes, if needed and if i can fit a cooler into the budget

SLI or Crossfire: SLI? Crossfire? whichever is better the worth

Monitor Resolution: 1440x900

i found 2 builds on pcpartpicker.com that looks appealing - http://pcpartpicker.com/b/y7R (i have a comment there)
but are a little over my budget , any idea how to trim the price? - http://pcpartpicker.com/b/y7J


So can anybody recommend a good bang for the budget?
Thats all, thank you so very much again in advance for any help!

edit: erm it would be it nice if it was upgradable so i would be able to maybe swap the cpu for intel's new Haswells or a better graphics card

 

[excella1221]

Hun, if you're 15, then I strongly advise you just let the storekeeper put the parts together for you.

Can you check if this store has a website? So we can have an idea on which parts we can get for your budget; 'cause yes, things will be a lot more expensive there so you can't rely on pcpartpicker pricing.

Give us your budget in SGD too, please.

 

[spectrumn]

Hun, if you're 15, then I strongly advise you just let the storekeeper put the parts together for you.

Can you check if this store has a website? So we can have an idea on which parts we can get for your budget; 'cause yes, things will be a lot more expensive there so you can't rely on pcpartpicker pricing.

Give us your budget in SGD too, please.

haha, i feel ashamed, because even a 13 year old could assemble his own pc! look here http://pcpartpicker.com/b/y6Z
anyway here is the stall's website http://fuwell.com.sg/

and my budget is from SGD $600 to $800 (the more worth the better) because im planning to save up for upgrades
thanks for the quick reply! (sorry i'm a student so my budget is low..i also wanted to have at least a sick gaming rig T.T)

edit: the store website has a Price list you can find at the main page

 

[excella1221]

There are some things in his build that aren't right, but it's quite impressive for a 13-yr old. :lol:

Okay, I used this price list for this build - http://www.fuwell.com.sg/uploads/misc/Fuwell061012.pdf

The ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP + i5-3470 bundle $377
Hitachi 1TB 32MB 7200RPM $98
Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 $72
Sapphire HD7770 1GB Vapor-X GHZ Edt DDR5 $199
Seasonic S12II 520W Bronze 80+ $89
CM Elite K35012cm Fan + Side Window / USB3.0 $75

Ok honey, I believe this will go over budget, sorry a bit in a hurry. I'll try to make it fit your budget later when I get home.

 

[spectrumn]

There are some things in his build that aren't right, but it's quite impressive for a 13-yr old. :lol:

Okay, I used this price list for this build - http://www.fuwell.com.sg/uploads/misc/Fuwell061012.pdf

The ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP + i5-3470 bundle $377
Hitachi 1TB 32MB 7200RPM $98
Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 $72
Sapphire HD7770 1GB Vapor-X GHZ Edt DDR5 $199
Seasonic S12II 520W Bronze 80+ $89
CM Elite K35012cm Fan + Side Window / USB3.0 $75

Ok honey, I believe this will go over budget, sorry a bit in a hurry. I'll try to make it fit your budget later when I get home.

wow, this website is amazing! friendly experts and such quick replies as well..i can't thank you enough. hahaha!
anyway, it looks good
is a sapphire hd card better than a nvidia gtx? i've only had nvidia cards before and have never experienced radeon/sapphire hd / other graphics cards before O.O

 

[Ravyu]

wow, this website is amazing! friendly experts and such quick replies as well..i can't thank you enough. hahaha!
anyway, it looks good
is a sapphire hd card better than a nvidia gtx? i've only had nvidia cards before and have never experienced radeon/sapphire hd / other graphics cards before O.O

It's the only good one that fits your budget. If you can expand, go for a HD 7850 (like me!). A HD 7770 can go BF3 at Ultra on your monitor but prob only 35-45 fps. A 7850 on the other hand gives you 60+ fps and is also future proof. If you play BF3, add me as your friend, RavyuEA

P.S- I'm 12 and a Singaporean

 

[Ravyu]

Oh and BTW, if you're saving just to upgrade in the future, not worth it. It's either you wait for whatever you want to upgrade to come out or you spend all that money now. Haswell is a very different CPU as compared to Sandy/Ivy bridge, so only motherboards that were made for it will work, and they won't come out until Haswell releases.

Haswell is only good for laptops imo, so there isn't any point in upgrading to that.\

Tell us what your budget is when you're not saving up for anything please

 

[spectrumn]

oh i see...man you are one lucky 12 yr old! when i was 12 i was struggling to play maplestory smoothly dude..!

awesome, btw is it the sapphire hd 7850 or the radeon one that you're talking about? and is it 1GB/2GB/OC Edition?
hmm..if i wanted to get the hd 7850 i might expand my budget to $1000 since i won't need to upgrade so soon then..and i'm not a hardcore gamer, i just need to run games at least on High settings smoothly and not lag to death. ;P

 

[Ravyu]

oh i see...man you are one lucky 12 yr old! when i was 12 i was struggling to play maplestory smoothly dude..!

awesome, btw is it the sapphire hd 7850 or the radeon one that you're talking about? and is it 1GB/2GB/OC Edition?
hmm..if i wanted to get the hd 7850 i might expand my budget to $1000 since i won't need to upgrade so soon then..and i'm not a hardcore gamer, i just need to run games at least on High settings smoothly and not lag to death. ;P

AMD Radeon is the company that creates the technology for the cards, Sapphire is a company that manufactures them (like Asus, Gigabyte) That is why the name of the card is "Saphire AMD Radeon HD 7850 for example.

I have the MSI twin frozr III HD7850 2GB and it has overclocking capabilities of upto 85%! (It's already been oc'ed a bit), but its $300+ and I bought it for an upgrade (I couldn't game with just a GT 520, the lowest end card many can buy). My rig is priced at $1100.


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hUYq
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hUYq/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hUYq/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-2100 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus P8H61-M LE/CSM (REV 3.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($76.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.30 @ Compuvest)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($212.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VJ60001N2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.56 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ CompUSA)
Monitor: ViewSonic VA1932WM 19.0" Monitor ($128.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $866.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


Saphire is also very good, so no problem in buying that

I want everyone to have an awesome computer to run games at max settings (some weird satisfaction).

Your monitor is 1440x900, which is good as you won't need a $1.5k comp to run smooth at full settings. $1k is enough.
With a HD 7850, you won't see any lag on future games for 3+ years!

 

[excella1221]

Okay well.. for some reason I can't load the price list pdf file anymore. The tab crashes whenever I do.

If you can stretch your budget to 1000SGD, then I won't need to adjust anymore.
I will +1 the 7850 though since your budget can handle it.

The ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP + i5-3470 bundle $377
Hitachi 1TB 32MB 7200RPM $98
Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 $72
Sapphire HD7850 $250-something
Seasonic S12II 520W Bronze 80+ $89
CM Elite K35012cm Fan + Side Window / USB3.0 $75
<insert cheapest optical drive you can find here> ~$20

Total: ~$979

 

[spectrumn]

@Ravyu aw that's just awesome dude thanks alot for the effort for the build, you are very knowledgable about this for your age xD but i think i'll stick to excella's build for me because its from the fuwell pricelist and its easier to buy that http://fuwell.com.sg/uploads/misc/Fuwell131012.pdf
edit: i just saw excella1221's reply, haha, it crashed because there was a new list coming out i guess. theres the link ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
okay, thanks alot guys! man i pressed the best answer button too early

alright i've about made up my mind, just a few last checks before i go get my build!

i realised that the build doesn't have a case included. so will the shop provide it or something?

 

[spectrumn]

Best answer selected by spectrumn.

 

[excella1221]

So I take it you're getting the 7770 Vapor-X instead? XD
The 7850 is a good investment if you can stretch the budget a little.

 

[spectrumn]

So I take it you're getting the 7770 Vapor-X instead? XD
The 7850 is a good investment if you can stretch the budget a little.

Hmm...i'm still in a dilemna, and i realised we missed out on the case in the build!

Just a double check, can there be any more places to cut down on price without sacrificing much performance?
i won't mind if you can still adjust a little
other than that i'm really content with the build you came up with ^_^

i most probably will get the HD 7850 (i was too impatient to wait to press the best answer button for such a helpful person xD)

btw, what is the build/gpu you are using now, excella?


@Ravyu also where did you get your build?

 

[Ravyu]

Hmm...i'm still in a dilemna, and i realised we missed out on the case in the build!

Just a double check, can there be any more places to cut down on price without sacrificing much performance?
i won't mind if you can still adjust a little
other than that i'm really content with the build you came up with ^_^

i most probably will get the HD 7850

btw, what is the build/gpu you are using now, excella?


@Ravyu also where did you get your build?

I got mine from fuwell too

 

[Ravyu]

Hmm...i'm still in a dilemna, and i realised we missed out on the case in the build!

Just a double check, can there be any more places to cut down on price without sacrificing much performance?
i won't mind if you can still adjust a little
other than that i'm really content with the build you came up with ^_^

i most probably will get the HD 7850 (i was too impatient to wait to press the best answer button for such a helpful person xD)

btw, what is the build/gpu you are using now, excella?


@Ravyu also where did you get your build?

I got mine from Fuwell too.

What excella gave you is very good. But if your budget is tight you can switch the CPU for an i3 3220. That ought a save you some cash. Try to fit that HD 7850 somehow!

 

[excella1221]

If you check the 2nd build I posted, it includes a casing.

See if the B75 PRO3 is cheaper than the H77 Pro4/MVP. If it is, you can get that.
An i5-3450 would be a bit cheaper, I guess.

I would get a 450w PSU but if I remember correctly, there were no reliable brands for that wattage, and the Seasonic 520w would be the closest.

Try looking for a cheaper RAM that's 8gb, 1600MHz, and CAS 9.
Stay away from Kingston since most of their RAMs use 1.65v.

P.S - I still can't view the pdf file.

 

[spectrumn]

@Ravyu haha its okay, yosh! i've made up my mind. i'm getting the i5 and the 7850!

@excella1221 oh man i thought it was a cooler by the name of that case..whoops
yep the B75 PRO3 is cheaper by $26. what is the difference between the 2 mother boards?

G-Skill RipJawX 1600MHz CL9 is cheaper by $1, lol.
i see...the only other ram option is the one above ^^^^
lol you can try going to the original web page and into the list from there http://fuwell.com.sg/
otherwise its ok, i will check the prices on my own ^^
i'm fine with the 520w, because in the far future i might add in a ssd or another gpu, so would it be able to support it?

sorry for my endless questions, haha! i am very grateful for all your answers and i can't believe it has all been answered within a day this will be the last one i promise

 

[excella1221]

Not much difference, the H77 has a few extra features you might not even need.
Feel free to choose either of the 2 RAMs, they both work fine.

520w will be fine for any other hardware you add to it. It would take a more expensive motherboard if you're going to Crossfire btw. H77 and B75 won't support it. You'll also need 600-600w for that.

 

[spectrumn]

alright that concludes it. The upgrades will come much later so i'll worry about that next time. when that comes i'll be able to swap out my motherboard and PSU right

Thank you very much for the help! @excella1221 and @Ravyu ^_^ it has certainly been a great experience for me on Tom's Hardware (thumbsup) . i'll report back when i get my build! and i'll add you on BF3 RavyuEA

 

[excella1221]

Happy building!

 

[Ravyu]

Happy building!

Ditto