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Is a GTX 560 Ti Enough fro 720p gaming?

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August 19, 2012 4:58:34 PM

Looking to upgrade my current 7750 because games like Witcher 2 and Crysis are unplayable at the highest settings at 720p. My question is the 560 Ti enough for 720p gaming and get 60 FPS Consistent in ALL Games? I'm willing to turn down AA a little bit but 60 FPS is a Necessity IMO.
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August 19, 2012 5:08:42 PM

It would be enough to play 1600x1200 on very high or even maximum settings (depends on your CPU and the particular game itself), and, of course, more than enough for 1080p.
Even such old cards as HD 4730 would be already enough to play 720p, man.
Also, instead of changing 7750 to 560Ti, I suggest you change to 7870, or, if you can afford it, to 7950.
560Ti's waaay too old, man. Really ain't worth it, especially if you want to change from 7750 to something better (560Ti would be a bad choice, IMHO). If you really want to change to GeForce from your Radeon THAT much, I suggest that you get at least GTX 660Ti, not 560Ti.
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August 19, 2012 5:09:16 PM

My cousin has one of those older monitors (1280x1024) and it plays almost everything on Ultra smoothly (I don't know if it is 60+ FPS, but it runs like butter). He has a GTX 560 (non Ti), so you should be fine.
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August 19, 2012 5:09:51 PM

The GTX560ti is a very nice jump, but Crysis puts serious demands on the graphics card. 60fps may be unrealistic.
Here is one benchmark I found:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-ti-...

What psu do you have, and what is the cpu? They might be limiting your options too.
Is that 60fps average, or minimum?

To meet that objective, I think you will come close with a GTX660ti, and meet it with a GTX670.
Here is one comparison:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-...
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August 19, 2012 5:19:47 PM

mac981 said:
I have a CX 500


Your PSU can run a GTX 560 Ti. Go for it.
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August 19, 2012 5:20:19 PM

I have a CX 500

Also, I was getting like 15 FPS on Crysis with everything absolutley cranked out, is that not normal, or is Crysis Just that much of a beast?
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August 19, 2012 5:33:54 PM

mac981 said:
Corsair CX 500


I highly suggest that you upgrade it to Corsair's HX 650 (or maybe even AX650, if you can afford it).
Then change your video from HD 7750 to either 660Ti (I highly recommend MSi "Power Edition") or Sapphire's HD 7870 (7950, if you can afford it), and you're pretty much good to go with everything at maximum graphical settings.

mac981 said:
Crysis just that much of a beast.


This.
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August 19, 2012 5:40:28 PM

Oh also for got to include I have a core i3 2100 3.1 Ghz dual core(With Hyper Threading). Any bottle necks there?
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August 19, 2012 5:53:40 PM

mac981 said:
Oh also for got to include I have a core i3 2100 3.1 Ghz dual core(With Hyper Threading). Any bottle necks there?

Your cpu and psu are very good. You can run a card as good as a GTX670.

And, yes, Crysis is a graphics card beast.
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August 19, 2012 6:10:39 PM

Is Crysis Harder to Run then Crysis 2? I was getting like 37 Fps in 2, just thought it was some driver issues for crysis 1.
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August 19, 2012 6:57:20 PM

geofelt said:
Your PSU is very good.


Please tell me that you were joking, because that's...

mac981 said:
CX


...just... :non: 
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August 19, 2012 7:06:38 PM

master_chen said:
Please tell me that you were joking, because that's...



...just... :non: 



I haven't ordered it yet, just the one that was 80+ and not too high priced..
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August 19, 2012 7:26:57 PM

As an owner of GTX 560 Ti myself, I can tell you that it will not max out Witcher 2 with ubersampling @ 720p. I tried going down in resolution just for fun trying to find at what resolution it would be playable, but even at 1024x768 I had around 20 fps. Crysis, however, should not be a problem, as you can max it out with 4x AA even at 1080p.
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August 19, 2012 7:31:53 PM

Sunius said:
As an owner of GTX 560 Ti myself, I can tell you that it will not max out Witcher 2 with ubersampling @ 720p. I tried going down in resolution just for fun trying to find at what resolution it would be playable, but even at 1024x768 I had around 20 fps. Crysis, however, should not be a problem, as you can max it out with 4x AA even at 1080p.


I don't care for Ubersamling, I used it on my current machine and didn't even notice a difference.
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August 19, 2012 7:52:54 PM

Then it will be more than enough for other settings maxed out :) .
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August 19, 2012 9:03:45 PM

mac981 said:
I haven't ordered it yet, just the one that was 80+ and not too high priced..


And you really shouldn't.
"CX" line of PSUs is the worst that Corsair offers on the market these days.
You can be quite alright with "TX" line's PSU, you can definitely buy and use any of the "HX" line, you will be a definite GOD with any of the "AX" line of PSUs...but never (NEVER!) get any of the "CX" or "GS" PSUs, they are absolute garbage!

If you're very tight on the budget, then get AT LEAST "TX" Corsair PSU, you won't be disappointed. But no matter what - don't get "CX" or "GS", they are the worst trash you can buy these days!
And again - if you're THAT tight on the budget that you can't even afford 650W "HX" (which aren't very expensive, especially considering it's high-level quality and performance), then I highly recommend that you get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... one, it's pretty good too.

BTW: "C" in "CX" stands for "CRAP". >: )
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August 19, 2012 9:08:43 PM

His PSU is just fine. It should be able to run the 560Ti with no problems. And the GS is also fine. They are built by Seasonic, and we all know that Seasonic makes quality units.

As for the question, the 560Ti would be a nice jump from your 7750 and it should play all games on your monitor. If you choose to upgrade your monitor the card should also work nicely in the future.

The 660Ti is probably out of budget for the OP.

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August 19, 2012 9:41:37 PM

master_chen said:
And you really shouldn't.
"CX" line of PSUs is the worst that Corsair offers on the market these days.
You can be quite alright with "TX" line's PSU, you can definitely buy and use any of the "HX" line, you will be a definite GOD with any of the "AX" line of PSUs...but never (NEVER!) get any of the "CX" or "GS" PSUs, they are absolute garbage!

If you're very tight on the budget, then get AT LEAST "TX" Corsair PSU, you won't be disappointed. But no matter what - don't get "CX" or "GS", they are the worst trash you can buy these days!
And again - if you're THAT tight on the budget that you can't even afford 650W "HX" (which is not very expensive, especially considering it's high-level quality and performance), then I highly recommend that you get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... one, it's pretty good too.

BTW: "C" in "CX" stands for "CRAP". >: )


They're not bad at all. They are just not as good as TX line, but they are much better than crappermaster and alike.
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August 19, 2012 9:54:27 PM

Sunius said:
They're not bad at all. They are just not as good as TX line.

Out of my personal experience on dealing with several "CX" and "GS" PSUs - they are absolute garbage.
I never had any problems with any of the "TX"es, "HX"es and (especially) "AX"es - but I had some bad experiences with the "CX" and "GS" crap. And I've tried every one of them, mind you. The only Corsair PSU on which I still haven't laid my hands yet, is the AX 1200i, but I'll definitely get it soon.

Sunius said:
But they are much better than crappermaster and alike.

Yeah, on that I agree.
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August 19, 2012 9:55:46 PM

Well I've never had any problem with either the CX or the GS as they are both solid lines.

Either way, the card should run on the CX.
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August 19, 2012 10:04:20 PM

Deemo13 said:
the card should run on the CX.


The point being is: how good/long would it, with that crap? Anyway, I guess I need to stop raging about "CX"es, it's getting waaay over the board now, lol. :na: 
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August 19, 2012 10:13:34 PM

The PSU is not an area you want to skimp on quality. It's about as important as which processor you pick. While it doesn't directly affect performance, it influences the longevity of the computer heavily, and enables you to use whichever graphics card you want. The new GPUs and CPUs use such little power (intel and Nvidea that is...Radeon this gen is still kind of power hungry) than you can get by with a 500w PSU unless you decide to SLI. I have a 670 and a 3570k, both overclocked, and I am barely using 450w
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August 19, 2012 10:16:02 PM

Just a little.

My friend has been running a CX500 with a 6870 and a 2500K with like a gazillion fans. given he only has one HDD, he is still going strong. His PSU is more than 2 years old and it was used in a previous build.

Honestly, It should run the 560Ti. If the OP wants to make the jump to a CX600, that would be good as well.

Also, at least its 80+ certified.
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August 19, 2012 10:24:27 PM

Dantheman1129 said:
The PSU is not an area you want to skimp on quality.


My thoughts exactly.
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August 19, 2012 10:25:27 PM

"crappermaster" I'm going to assume you mean cooler master. I didn't realise my 1000w PSU that's been great for 3+ years is so bad...

Mixed thoughts on the graphics. The 560ti is a power hungry, generation old card. A 7850 would be a good upgrade or 7870 is you can afford it.
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August 19, 2012 10:50:26 PM

pezonator said:
I didn't realize my 1000w PSU that's been great for 3+ years is so bad...


We were talking about "low/mid power segment" PSUs ITT (which are everything that's 750W-~ range, NOT 750W+~). And in that particular segment CM (and many other manufacturers) really sucks balls, by the most part.
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August 19, 2012 10:59:15 PM

You said you have a corsair cx500, if so, it will do the job, at least from a power capacity point of view.
If you meant you have one on your purchase list, it is a decent psu that will do the job but,
If you want better quality, it may or may not cost you more.
Do some shopping.
Here is one tiered psu list that might help you decide:
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
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August 19, 2012 11:48:30 PM

geofelt said:

Here is one PSU tier list that might help you decide:
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


Not bad. Actually not bad. I might even print that (after a couple of edits here and there) and hang it on a wall in my lab's testing room. :sol: 
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August 20, 2012 1:13:50 AM

So is the CX 500 good enough? I will spring for the extra if it will be that much better.
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August 20, 2012 1:17:09 AM

Well the CX600 shouldnt be that much more. If you go for that, when you upgrade your stuff in the future, you can just carry that over to your new computer and you woulnd't have to worry about power if you upgrade to a better power supply.
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August 20, 2012 1:21:31 AM

mac981 said:
I will spring for the extra if it will be that much better.

Then get TX (or maybe even HX, you won't be disappointed in both cases), really.
That's my final word on it.
Look at the link that I gave you above and decide for yourself.
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August 20, 2012 5:15:08 AM

Is the earth watts as reliable?

Also am just considering throwing a 660 ti instead.
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August 20, 2012 5:42:34 AM

Earthwatts is a very good line. Very reliable and good quality. I use them and Corsair in most of my builds.
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August 20, 2012 8:03:33 AM

Do you think the CX 500 would be enough for a 560 Ti? The reviews are decent but the One Poster is making me reconsider. I already decided to get a $200 PNY GTX 560 Ti
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August 20, 2012 8:08:43 AM

GOD Damn it, They Just Jacked the Price up of the 560 ti to $250, no point in getting that anymore.
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August 20, 2012 9:02:08 AM

no it's $250 as soon as I click it.
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August 20, 2012 9:20:40 AM

Anyone know how a 7850 fairs against a 560 ti? Found a 7850 for $230. Seems pretty good.
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August 20, 2012 10:56:22 AM

mac981 said:
Anyone know how a 7850 fairs against a 560 ti?


560Ti would be a much better choice (if it's a "True 448 Cores" version, that is).

About "Earth Watts": It's quite good. I'd recommend taking 550W "Earth Watts" (not 500W) Platinum http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... .
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August 20, 2012 12:16:34 PM

mac981 said:
Anyone know how a 7850 fairs against a 560 ti? Found a 7850 for $230. Seems pretty good.


At resolution just a little bit bigger than 720p:
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August 20, 2012 12:51:21 PM

Alright, Decided I'm going to get a 7850 or a 660 Ti(Want BL 2 so the Card Comes to $260). My system is pretty small and only has 1 extra fan(Excluding PSU and what not), would it be a better idea to get the 7850, or could I comfortably have a 660 ti? Ordering in a few hours so some last minute responses would be helpful!
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August 20, 2012 12:58:44 PM

GTX 660 Ti is much faster!

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August 20, 2012 1:00:21 PM

The concern is the heat output of the 660 though... I think I'll be fine but just something on the back of my mind.
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August 20, 2012 1:03:28 PM

GTX 660 Ti has a much lesser TDP than GTX 560 Ti. It's not a hot card at all.
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August 20, 2012 3:45:51 PM

Alright one Final Thing Before I pull the trigger, I have the motherboard below and it looks like the 660 Ti might hit the two things circled, does this typically ever happen or does the fan go right over it? Also it's an mATX, and I'm getting a fully new build soon but might as well get the GPU/PSU now for somewhat better performance. Plus, an i3 isn't a too bad of a combo with the 660 Ti



Thanks for Everyone's Help! If this isn't a setup that'll work, I'll go for the 560 Ti since newegg just dropped the price by $30.
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August 20, 2012 3:54:58 PM

mac981 said:
Alright one Final Thing Before I pull the trigger, I have the motherboard below and it looks like the 660 Ti might hit the two things circled, does this typically ever happen or does the fan go right over it? Also it's an mATX, and I'm getting a fully new build soon but might as well get the GPU/PSU now for somewhat better performance. Plus, an i3 isn't a too bad of a combo with the 660 Ti

http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u508/mac981/dff95bbf.jpg

Thanks for Everyone's Help! If this isn't a setup that'll work, I'll go for the 560 Ti since newegg just dropped the price by $30.


You will have no problem if you install the ram first. The tabs get pushed down to lock in the ram stick. Some motherboards do not have a latch there for exactly that clearance reason.
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August 20, 2012 4:10:14 PM

I don't think you will have a problem installing either card.
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August 20, 2012 5:02:18 PM

You'll be fine :) .
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