How much power for this 2 PC's?

[Despot96]

Like "Thread" say's how much power do i need for this 2 PC's:

First PC:

MB: Gigabyte Z77 DS3H
CPU: i5-3570k
GPU: HD 7950
HDD: 1TB
RAM: 2x4GB

Second PC:

MB: Gigabyte 970
CPU: Phenom II x4 965 BE
GPU: GTX 460 ; GTX 470 ; 2xGTX 460 ; 2xGTX 470
HDD: 1TB
RAM: 2x4GB

For second PC write power consumption for each GPU solutions. If you know what i mean.

 

[Emelth]

do you plan to SLI on the first PC? 650W would be enough if your not you could get a slightly lower 550W but I personally would rather have a little more head

 

[excella1221]

550w would be plenty for the first build.
As for the 2nd build, the GTX 470 appears to be a power hog, so 750w when SLI'd.

 

[r0aringdrag0n]

For the First PC, you'll probably only need 400W max if you don't plan on putting in any high end graphics card, so something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033
will work.

The second PC will require significantly more, since the CPU itself uses about 60W more power than the i5, however, once again a 400W PSU is enough for the system WITHOUT the GPUs and here is what the power the GPUs will probably take up:
gtx 460: 280W - Under load
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/07/12/nvidia-geforce-gtx-460-graphics-card-review/11
however, Nvidia states its max power usage is 160W:
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-460/specifications
I would go with the 280W just to be safe.

gtx 470: 350W under load
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/07/12/nvidia-geforce-gtx-460-graphics-card-review/11
Nvidia recommends at least a 550W PSU for one GPU:
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-470/specifications

Just double the numbers if you're using two in SLI config.

Also remember to buy reliable power supplies and not cheap ones that advertise large power output.

 

[Despot96]

Well im planing to buy a pc so i'm wondering about power consumption to be sure.
Also im deciding on what case should i get. Im not sure about components i picked but i also want advice what pc should i get for 500e without discrete gpu for gaming, and later get seperate gpu? But i think i will need new thread? Btw thank you all on help

 

[r0aringdrag0n]

Well im planing to buy a pc so i'm wondering about power consumption to be sure.
Also im deciding on what case should i get. Im not sure about components i picked but i also want advice what pc should i get for 500e without discrete gpu for gaming, and later get seperate gpu? But i think i will need new thread? Btw thank you all on help

You don't have to have new thread, a new thread would probably bring in other people, but we can probably help you.
Anyways, for a case, it depends on the budget

For cheap, I would recommend the NZXT Gamma:
http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/classic_series/gamma
It's a mid-size tower that was designed to be a gaming case, meaning it has lots of room for graphics cards, holes for ventilation, and water cooling holes.

For the medium budget, the CM HAF 922 works very well:
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6606
Similar to the NZXT but larger and sturdier

And for the large cases, the NZXT Phantom or the HAF X are all full size towers with lots of room for any components you might want to put into a computer:
NZXT Phantom:
http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/crafted_series/phantom
CM HAF X:
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6653

 

[excella1221]

If you're getting a GPU in the future anyway, then there's little point on getting a low wattage PSU now; might as well get the PSU that can support the PC with the card you're gonna buy.

The safe zone would always be 500-550w.

 

[Despot96]

Im thinking to get build like this:

MB: AsRock B75 Pro3-M - 60e
CPU: i5-3450 - 162e
GPU: HD4000
PSU: For 60e
HDD: SATA3 7200rpm 1TB Western Digital - 67e
RAM: 1x8GB 1600MHz - 35e
CASE: 45e
DVD/RW: - 14e
Keyboard: 10e
Monitor: 1280x1024 that i already have but i want to upgrade to 1920x1080 and that will cost 100e minimal.

All together 453 but i will not gonna overclock and to go SLI/CF with this build.
I will not gonna to have more than 500e for this build now, i will later get money for discrete video card. And i don't know how to fit Monitor in budget because in future i will gonna spent 200e for gpu and i will not gonna have more money so what you suggest? I'm buying in Serbia from emmi.rs because its cheapest. I also considered this build to get:

MB: Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H - 83e
CPU: i5-3570k - 194e
GPU: HD4000
PSU: TT 630W smart plus - 55e
HDD: SATA3 7200rpm 1TB Western Digital - 67e
RAM: 8GB 1600MHz - 40e
CASE: 45e
DVD/RW: - 15e
Keyboard: 10e
All together 509e and that is allot for PC without discrete GPU by standards here in Serbia. I will mostly gonna game with PC and surfing internet and not doing any video encording. So if i can use i5-3450 i will same 30e and if i use that AsRock b75 motherboard i will save another 23e so that's 53e total and its not quite small here. Please post suggestions and by the way i will be buying PC in December but i want to ask before, and i know that prices will go down but i just want suggestions. NOTE: Only good PSU's we got here are Seasonic,Cooler Master and Thermal Take not anything else, but i assume cooler master and thermal take are not good either. Thanks

 

[jrau]

An i5-3450 CPU has HD2500 graphics ... on newegg I see only the i5-3570K cpu has HD4000 on chip ... although this doesn't matter if you put a GPU in the mix.

 

[FinneousPJ]

500W for single GPU, 750W for SLI is a good rule.

 

[Despot96]

An i5-3450 CPU has HD2500 graphics ... on newegg I see only the i5-3570K cpu has HD4000 on chip ... although this doesn't matter if you put a GPU in the mix.

Well i will probably gonna use Integrated graphic card until i get discrete in next year, after i buy this PC like 4 months later.

 

[Despot96]

Prices:

380W Seasonic SS-380GB = 55e
630W ThermalTake SMART 80PLUS = 55e
500W Seasonic SS-500ET = 63e
550W ThermalTake SMART Modular 80PLUS = 70e
620W Cooler Master Silent PRO M2 = 93e
620W Seasonic SS-620GM = 104e
720W Cooler Master Silent PRO M2 = 110e

Can i5-3450 handle CF/SLI configuration? And how much improvements i get if i pick Z77 board and i5-3570k? Thanks

 

[FinneousPJ]

Yes, it can. Not much improvement at all.

 

[Despot96]

So i will be fine with i5-3450 with HD2500 and B75 board i mentioned? I know that i5-3450 can beat up every single AMD CPU on market right? And what PSU you suggest from that list i write for 50-70e? Also maybe if i will go CF/SLI with 7850/7870/7950 CF will 620W Cooler Master Silent PRO M2 be enough or i will need at least 700/750W?

 

[FinneousPJ]

Yes. Obviously Intel HD Graphics sucks though. I recommend the Seasonic 500W. The Seasonic 620W should be enough for 7850 crossfire.

 

[Despot96]

Maybe i could just get this?

MB: AM3+ 890FXA-GD65 - 60e
CPU: Phenom II x4 965BE - 86e
GPU: GTX 460 - 82e or GTX 470 - 100e
PSU: Seasonic SS-500ET = 63e
HDD: 1TB 7200rpm - 67e
RAM: 1x8GB - 38e
DVD/RW: 15e
Case: 45-50e
Keyboard: 10e
Total: 389e without GPU so i can get GTX 460/470. So it will be 471e with gtx 460 and 489 with gtx 470. Then would it be good choice to have SLI with this two cards.. i ask this because of AMD CPU. Also then i will need to change PSU and Motherboard. But for me i would stay with one card so gtx460 or gtx470 or little better cards in that range of money. I made this build because in future i can get 1920x1080 Monitor for 120e and it will be enough for gaming.. but with Intel PC i made in future i could only get Monitor or GPU.. so im limited here. Here is Intel build:

MB: Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H - 83e
CPU: i5-3570k - 194e
GPU: HD4000
PSU: Seasonic SS-500ET = 63e - 63e
HDD: SATA3 7200rpm 1TB Western Digital - 67e
RAM: 8GB 1600MHz - 40e
CASE: 45e
DVD/RW: - 15e
Keyboard: 10e
Total: 517e
or

MB: AsRock B75 Pro3-M - 60e
CPU: i5-3450 - 162e
GPU: HD4000
PSU: Seasonic SS-500ET - 63e
HDD: SATA3 7200rpm 1TB Western Digital - 67e
RAM: 1x8GB 1600MHz - 35e
CASE: 45e
DVD/RW: - 14e
Keyboard: 10e
Total: 456e

If i get one of these Intel CPU's how long it will last me for gaming... i'm a bit scared that in near future like 2 years later from now that the Intel will start building 6 core processors... i also know that they exist now but the are 1000$. And can PC work well with 1x8GB because of easy future upgrade. Also can i overclock i5-3570k on B75 and H77 boards and how much(if it is possible) So that are my final question i guess.

 

[willyroc]

400,450. 650+ for 470 SLI to be safe.

 

[Despot96]

What is best PC for you of those 3? With AMD i could later buy full hd monitor but with intel one's only video card.

 

[excella1221]

You're on a tight budget, so the AMD Phenom build would make the most sense out of all the 3.

 

[Despot96]

how much it will last me.. the AMD PC?

 

[silliconcrayon]

550 for the first
750 for the second

 

[r0aringdrag0n]

If your going to use the rig for gaming, I would say 2 years max...maybe not even that much. both the 400 series Nvidia graphics cards and the Phenom IIs are outdated.
The 400 series were released in 2010 while the Phenom II was released in 2009.

 

[Despot96]

If your going to use the rig for gaming, I would say 2 years max...maybe not even that much. both the 400 series Nvidia graphics cards and the Phenom IIs are outdated.
The 400 series were released in 2010 while the Phenom II was released in 2009.

And what about i5-3450 and i5-3570k.. how much they will last? Because i want my PC to be future proof. I don't want to give money for AMD PC now and then in 2-3 years to upgrade... I want my PC to last at least 4-5 years.. so i will need i5-3570k and probably Z77 mobo. So intel is way to go right?

 

[r0aringdrag0n]

And what about i5-3450 and i5-3570k.. how much they will last? Because i want my PC to be future proof. I don't want to give money for AMD PC now and then in 2-3 years to upgrade... I want my PC to last at least 4-5 years.. so i will need i5-3570k and probably Z77 mobo. So intel is way to go right?

Yes, the Intel build will certainly last a few years longer than the AMD build, that is, if you add a good graphics card on in the future.

 

[Despot96]

Ok thanks