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October 13, 2012 9:03:01 PM

i think i accidently put this on the UK forum so i am reposting it to the US one
this is my first post so i hope its not too bad

Approximate Purchase Date: planning on ordering it the 21st - 25th

Budget Range: near 1000 dollars after everything is done

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming

Are you buying a monitor: Yes


Parts to Upgrade: no upgrades just starting from scratch

Do you need to buy OS: No, planning to buy it at my college

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Location: boise, idaho

Parts Preferences: i don't have one

Overclocking: i dont know should i with the 8 core?

SLI or Crossfire: maybe, not sure what it exactly is

Your Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050 preferably

Additional Comments: i want it to not wake anyone up if they are in the next room, and for games starcraft 2 and league of legends

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: my current computer(a laptop) can't run at the desired graphics i want.

Include a list of any parts you have already selected with descriptively labeled links for parts. Please do not post only links.
so far i have
ASUS DVD Burner Black SATA Model DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827135240
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129042
Seagate Barracuda Green ST1500DL003 1.5TB 5900 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148725
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity (100315L )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102908
Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371016
RAZER DeathAdder Black 5 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Precision Optical Gaming Mouse - 3.5G Infrared Sensor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6826153055
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11D-8GBXL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231468
AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8120FRGUBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103961

so what i need is a motherboard, keyboard, and screen. the total of the parts above is $622.92. and my spending limit is 1000.
thank you in advance for all of your help

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October 13, 2012 9:23:20 PM

Switch the HDD out to a regular Seagate Barracuda, the Green one you pick has a much slower performance you dont want that. At $1000 you should be looking to make a Intel PC for better performance
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October 13, 2012 10:07:46 PM

Hello! I see that the build you have going isn't actually the best bang for your buck!
At your budget, we'll want to keep a few things as cheap as possible, such as the case, RAM, HSF, and HDD
So let's pick out those components first, so we know how much money we have left for the crucial parts such as the CPU, Mobo, and Graphics!


Case: NZXT GAMMA $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This case is $15 cheaper than the Antec 300, but is reliable and sturdy! It was designed for a gaming computer so it has lots of Fan upgrade options for ventilation, water cooling holes for tubing, and most importantly, large amounts of room for a longer graphics card. If you feel like this case is too cheap, then the Rosewill Challenger, which is $50 (still $5 cheaper than the Antec) is a wonderful option:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Western Digital WD Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A regualr 500GB hard drive @ 7200RPM which is faster than the green (5400RPM) drive you chose. If you dislike WD (I know some people do), then go with an equivalent Seagate drive.

RAM: G.SKILL Value Series 8GB Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT $34
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This RAM is from the same company you chose, only it doesn't have heat spreaders. This is fine, since unless you plan on OCing the RAM (not too many people do) then the heat spreaders would be useless. The 8GB is norm for computers now and it's the go to RAM for any build.

Heatsink+Fan: STOCK $0
Since we need a monitor with your build, we will probably want to keep the HSF stock, or the fan that comes with the box. They are normally less efficient, but unless you're planning to OC the CPU to high levels, an aftermarket HSF won't really be worth it.

Money left: $856
Now for the monitor, DVD drive, and PSU:

DVD-ROM: ASUS 24X DVD Burner $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Not much choice, it's free shipping and reads and writes DVDs/CDs. If you are planning to watch Blu-ray, then get a blu-ray drive, which tend to be significantly more expensive.

PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA-650 $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A reliable 650W PSU. A note: you must have your own power cord, since it doesn't come with one.

Monitor: Acer G215HVAbd Black 21.5 $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Reliable company and 1920x1080 res, which is higher than what you prefer.

Money left: $646
Now the rest:

CPU: Intel i5 3750k $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Intel's flagship Ivy Bridge CPU, it performs better than the 8 core AMD FX 8000s CPUs and is really power efficient. I would not stray away from this at all.

Graphics: Radeon 7950 $310
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The radeon 7950 is one of the better cards out on the market today. It is relatively cheap and very good. I wouldn't recommend anything more expensive since it will cut into the cost of the other parts.

MoBo: MSI Z77A-G43 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A reliable yet cheap motherboard. It is an ATX form factor and has Crossfire X capabilities in case you wish to add another radeon 7950 in the future. It also supports the Ivy bridge CPUs out of box.

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October 14, 2012 1:09:37 AM

r0aringdrag0n said:
Hello! I see that the build you have going isn't actually the best bang for your buck!
At your budget, we'll want to keep a few things as cheap as possible, such as the case, RAM, HSF, and HDD
So let's pick out those components first, so we know how much money we have left for the crucial parts such as the CPU, Mobo, and Graphics!


Case: NZXT GAMMA $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This case is $15 cheaper than the Antec 300, but is reliable and sturdy! It was designed for a gaming computer so it has lots of Fan upgrade options for ventilation, water cooling holes for tubing, and most importantly, large amounts of room for a longer graphics card. If you feel like this case is too cheap, then the Rosewill Challenger, which is $50 (still $5 cheaper than the Antec) is a wonderful option:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Western Digital WD Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A regualr 500GB hard drive @ 7200RPM which is faster than the green (5400RPM) drive you chose. If you dislike WD (I know some people do), then go with an equivalent Seagate drive.

RAM: G.SKILL Value Series 8GB Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT $34
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This RAM is from the same company you chose, only it doesn't have heat spreaders. This is fine, since unless you plan on OCing the RAM (not too many people do) then the heat spreaders would be useless. The 8GB is norm for computers now and it's the go to RAM for any build.

Heatsink+Fan: STOCK $0
Since we need a monitor with your build, we will probably want to keep the HSF stock, or the fan that comes with the box. They are normally less efficient, but unless you're planning to OC the CPU to high levels, an aftermarket HSF won't really be worth it.

Money left: $856
Now for the monitor, DVD drive, and PSU:

DVD-ROM: ASUS 24X DVD Burner $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Not much choice, it's free shipping and reads and writes DVDs/CDs. If you are planning to watch Blu-ray, then get a blu-ray drive, which tend to be significantly more expensive.

PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA-650 $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A reliable 650W PSU. A note: you must have your own power cord, since it doesn't come with one.

Monitor: Acer G215HVAbd Black 21.5 $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Reliable company and 1920x1080 res, which is higher than what you prefer.

Money left: $646
Now the rest:

CPU: Intel i5 3750k $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Intel's flagship Ivy Bridge CPU, it performs better than the 8 core AMD FX 8000s CPUs and is really power efficient. I would not stray away from this at all.

Graphics: Radeon 7950 $310
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The radeon 7950 is one of the better cards out on the market today. It is relatively cheap and very good. I wouldn't recommend anything more expensive since it will cut into the cost of the other parts.

MoBo: MSI Z77A-G43 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A reliable yet cheap motherboard. It is an ATX form factor and has Crossfire X capabilities in case you wish to add another radeon 7950 in the future. It also supports the Ivy bridge CPUs out of box.


my friend was helping me pick out pieces and parts and i want your opinion on this machine.
CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Green 1.5TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer
Monitor: LG E2210T-BN 22.0" Monitor
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit)
Keyboard: Logitech G110 Wired Standard Keyboard
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Optical Mouse
he managed to get this at $990.63
a few extra details are im planning to get a second screen, not as expansive just useful for watching things while i play starcraft. and he did use different sites not just newegg which im ok with as long as i get more bang for my buck.
so how is this build compared to the one you have offered?
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October 14, 2012 3:17:09 AM

It's an OK build but I have a few concerns.
-The biggest concern is actually the mouse, I honestly would spend $50 on getting a better graphics card or CPU and instead get a gaming mouse once I have the money -and just use a regular mouse until then.
-The second is the graphics card, which the Radeon 7850 is without a doubt a great card, it is also not really comparable to the Radeon 7950, which is a couple of levels above the 7850 in terms of performance. If you get the 7950, you will probably have a computer that will last a little bit longer than if you get the radeon 7850. (I would say another game release cycle ~1-1.5 yrs)
As you can see here, the performance of the 7950 is sometimes 50% better than the 7850:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/550?vs=549
-The third is the power supply. It is sufficient for the build if you do not plan on Crossfiring (which I do not know if you are planning to do or not), but if you are going to crossfire, then it's not going to be enough.
-The final major difference is CPU overclocking. The i5 3570k allows you to overclock the CPU while the 3450 does not. If you are not interested in overclocking, then you can definitely go with the 3450, if you do so, you can also choose a h77 chipset motherboard since the h77 does not support CPU overclocking.
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October 14, 2012 6:13:59 AM

if i took out the keyboard and mouse, both of them together are $80, would i be able to get radeon 7850 and i5 3570k? also im not sure what crossfiring is but should i get a better power supply anyway? also about overclocking would i really need to do that with games like starcraft 2 or would i need to overclock with the next generation of games?
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October 14, 2012 2:25:19 PM

In all honesty, I would go with a cheaper CPU (i5 3450 or the Core i5-3470) and get a better graphics card since OCing the hardware really won't make your computer last long enough for another game cycle release, but the better graphics card certainly will.
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October 21, 2012 12:19:27 AM

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