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August 20, 2012 11:55:20 PM

I am at this time using my laptop to game and it has a a6 with a radeon 6720G2 and plays most games max.

I built a bunch of pcs over time and 2 years ago I built one with 2 gtx 460s oced a rampage IV gene board 8 gigs of gskill 2000MH ram and a intel 17 K875

one of the fans of the 460s broke so I rmaed and then never got the money to finish the full build again I have been running win 7 on it and a 8800gtx and win 8 on my laptop

I have finally got some money together and want to finish the build and there are some nice cards out now also budget around 300 but can go alittle over

I have been looking at either 2 gtx 480s, a 660 ti witch comes with with border lands which I was gana get any way so that is a plus or one of the many other cards out there

I rly hope I can get some help I would love to make this a beast again I will be running at 1080p and playing with 3d on the card must be nvidia because I have a 3d vision kit and I love physx ( I actauly bought an agea physx card for 300 back in the day b4 it was in the cards lol) so I rly hope I can get some help thanks so much guys :) 

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August 21, 2012 2:09:53 AM

also i have a 750w power supply but I have a friend who is not using his 1200w one just in case i need to upgrade
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a c 109 U Graphics card
August 21, 2012 2:26:57 AM

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August 21, 2012 2:55:58 AM

Im sry if I didnt make it clear above but the card needs to be nvidia because I love physx and i have a 3d set also like I said I am not only interested in new cards like the gtx 480 sli setup that is better than a gtx 680 I like being more creative then just buying the newest card and I like finding the best deal if I were to get a new card the 660 ti is the only option because the 670 is beary a jump in the proformance for the price and is also out of my price range I am just looking for people that have first hand experience with many cards I am sry if this comment puts people off but I like being a deal hunter and not just buying the newest card to gain only a few fps
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August 21, 2012 2:56:25 AM

livingweapon said:
Im sry if I didnt make it clear above but the card needs to be nvidia because I love physx and i have a 3d set also like I said I am not only interested in new cards like the gtx 480 sli setup that is better than a gtx 680 I like being more creative then just buying the newest card and I like finding the best deal if I were to get a new card the 660 ti is the only option because the 670 is beary a jump in the proformance for the price and is also out of my price range I am just looking for people that have first hand experience with many cards I am sry if this comment puts people off but I like being a deal hunter and not just buying the newest card to gain only a few fps
no problem ;) 
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a b U Graphics card
August 21, 2012 3:06:21 AM

At $300 stuck with Geforce you're going to want the 660 ti hands down, You really have no other options because it beats any non-kepler card and the only other Kepler card it has to fight with is $400.

Specifically with prices the way they are I would recommend the MSI 660 ti PE for $310.
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August 21, 2012 3:32:53 AM

what about the gtx 480 sli combo for 300?
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a c 109 U Graphics card
August 21, 2012 3:41:59 AM

I'd take the 660ti.
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August 21, 2012 3:43:45 AM

I would like to see benchmarks with both because in sli the 480s out perform a 680 which means they around the same performance as a 660 i am assuming
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August 21, 2012 4:05:12 AM

sorry for going on I just want to get the best buy
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August 21, 2012 11:26:49 AM

also since I love physx so much I could always do a different card than the main to run physx
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a b U Graphics card
August 21, 2012 1:52:25 PM

SLI GTX 480 is asking for trouble in any but near-perfect case cooling situations.
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August 21, 2012 11:08:57 PM

For $300? Definately get the GTX 660ti.
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August 22, 2012 5:07:23 AM

but y I want some graphs or some one that had 2 gtx 480s I am just wondering what is the advantage
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a b U Graphics card
August 22, 2012 5:54:30 AM

Here's a quick list of advantages.
The gtx 480 is a heat monster. It is easily able to break 80-85 degrees Celsius in average cooling environments. The original tests on tomshardware have one running at 97 degrees Celsius at max. Now imagine running 2 of those in SLI. Unless your case is riddled with high-performance fans and you buy the highest end gtx 480s you'll still have temps running near the 100 degree damage limit. This is disregarding that if you want really good stability you really out to be closer to 75-80 degrees C.

Second problem: microstuttering. The gtx 480 is a bit better than the gtx 560 ti. The 560 ti is known to have issues with microstutter when pushed hard in SLI because minimum framerates can drop so low. The 480 is no different. The 2 card configuration can allow minimum framerates similar to having a single 480 with averages near 80% higher, potentially causing bad microstutter.

Dual gtx 480s rival the performance of something less than the 7950 in average framerates, I can't give you charts because I've never seen one comparing the two in any scientific manner, all I can do is guess. The gtx 660 ti is something less than the 7950, and on top of that has great overclock potential, which the gtx 480 needs insane aftermarket cooling solutions to handle at all. This is ignoring that the minimum framerate of the 660 ti could be as high as 80% better in many games.
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August 22, 2012 11:37:58 AM

two gtx 480s in sli out perform a gtx 680 by about the margin a 670 out performs a 660 which is crazy for the price of one 660 ti
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August 22, 2012 12:16:25 PM

Buy the 660 Ti...SLI brings more problems than good things, meaning you'll have a few advantage but a lot of disadvantages! And the heat is awfull at GTX 480, and also it is old tehnology! But if ya can gather some more money and buy the GTX 670...it is very good and That's the card o' my dreams!
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a b U Graphics card
August 22, 2012 1:05:12 PM

I still am not seeing gtx 480's out perform a gtx 680 in any way in average framerates.
You also have to factor in cost and availability. I can't find any gtx 480s on sale right now, and when I have seen them they're usually $200 a piece. That would mean comparing them to the gtx 670, which is even less of a contest.
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August 22, 2012 1:17:36 PM

660 TI is better in every aspect/way.

Especially down the road when you can buy another for cheaper and most likely hit 680 GTX areas of performance if not higher.
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a b U Graphics card
August 22, 2012 1:51:25 PM

Frsty two gtx 660 tis would be leagues above a gtx 680, so you're point is actually a lot stronger.
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August 22, 2012 2:05:21 PM

kevin83 said:
I still am not seeing gtx 480's out perform a gtx 680 in any way in average framerates.
You also have to factor in cost and availability. I can't find any gtx 480s on sale right now, and when I have seen them they're usually $200 a piece. That would mean comparing them to the gtx 670, which is even less of a contest.


sli gtx 480: http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-480-3way-sli-...

gtx 660 : http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-660-ti-po...

480 sli vs 680: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1511766&mpage=1

and they are 150 every where u just have to look

the only reason I can see to go with the 660 is for borderlands
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a b U Graphics card
August 22, 2012 2:26:55 PM

You don't have to follow our advice. If you want to try cooling gtx 480s and see the stutter yourself, by all means go ahead.
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August 22, 2012 3:05:53 PM

no I fully understand im sry if I seem like a dick its just I always like to get the best deal and I have run sli b4 also the only reason I rly want to get this pc working again is borderlands 2 because my laptop can max most games but i love physx so getting my pc working is the only optiion I also have a 3d display as I said so I want to run borderlands maxed with physx in 3d and the 660 ti cant even run it maxed with physx on the they said with the interview with nvidia that it can only run it med with physx
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a b U Graphics card
August 22, 2012 3:17:10 PM

7950 kills the 660Ti when AA/AF are involved
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August 22, 2012 4:12:06 PM

mastrom101 said:
7950 kills the 660Ti when AA/AF are involved


well unless it starts supporting phsyx and 3d vision then its not an option
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a b U Graphics card
August 23, 2012 1:09:42 AM

livingweapon said:
well unless it starts supporting phsyx and 3d vision then its not an option


$300 GPU for 3D? I wouldn't even bother trying that. To max games in 3D, you should be looking at SLI 670`s or a 690.

480`s are cheap for a reason. They are old, hot and noisy, and consume a ton of power. The micro stuttering is a huge issue, and for the price, I don`t think it`s worth it.

http://www.hwcompare.com/11144/geforce-gtx-480-vs-gefor...
http://www.hwcompare.com/8757/geforce-gtx-480-vs-radeon...
http://www.hwcompare.com/12055/geforce-gtx-480-vs-radeo...

You`re really going to have to spend more money to play in 3D. Even if you do go for the SLI 480`s, the system will run incredibly hot and noisy. I would take a 670 over SLI 480`s any day.
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August 23, 2012 2:27:19 AM

I used to run games on almost max in 3d on 2 gtx 460s when they first cam out
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a b U Graphics card
August 23, 2012 3:09:11 AM

livingweapon said:
I used to run games on almost max in 3d on 2 gtx 460s when they first cam out



They came out over two years ago...
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August 23, 2012 3:26:54 AM

and they were the proformance of one 480 gtx 2 480 gtx is one 680
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a c 109 U Graphics card
August 25, 2012 12:48:42 AM

It's not worth it.
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