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October 16, 2012 1:02:10 AM

I need help building a good AMD based gaming rig for my friend. I don't have much knowledge of AMD so I really need help on building him a good system that can play games on 1080p with high to ultra settings if possible! Also would love it if I can future proof it for the next generation of AMD Piledriver CPUs for him as well. Will the cpu bottleneck 2 7950s or 7970s? Can it at least not bottleneck a single 7950 or 7970? So far this is what I came up with.

Mobo/CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition + ASUS Sabertooth 990FX AM3+ $243 @Micro Center
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600Mhz $40 @Newegg
PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750-M 80+ Gold $110 @Newegg (Will this be enough for crossfire 7970s or 7950s in the future?)
SSD: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB $100 @Newegg
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB 7200RPM $70 @NCIX
Case: Which one that will fit everything and have a nice amount of space for future H100. (Mid Tower)
GPU: Whats a good single gpu or crossfire setup to run games on max settings in 1920x1080p resolution

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October 16, 2012 1:04:34 AM

Why does it have to be AMD?
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October 16, 2012 1:08:23 AM

Why does it have to be amd? what is your budget? No that won't bottleneck, but in general it is better to get whatever is best for your budget. Also if you are getting a 965 be, get a cooling fan, I have a 965 and the stock fan is LOUD.
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October 16, 2012 1:11:28 AM

The CPU will likely bottleneck the system, as I had a Phenom II x6 that bottlenecked some SLI GTX 470's I had. I had switched to an Intel processor and the bottleneck was lifted. It made a difference of about 10-30FPS. I wasn't expecting that large of a jump. As far as a single GPU, if price isn't a factor, I would have to say the GTX 680. It has outperformed my 470's in most of my games thus far!
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October 16, 2012 1:21:11 AM

JMidd said:
The CPU will likely bottleneck the system, as I had a Phenom II x6 that bottlenecked some SLI GTX 470's I had. I had switched to an Intel processor and the bottleneck was lifted. It made a difference of about 10-30FPS. I wasn't expecting that large of a jump. As far as a single GPU, if price isn't a factor, I would have to say the GTX 680. It has outperformed my 470's in most of my games thus far!


So if my friend just sticks to a single GPU then the 965 BE wont bottleneck correct? He says he wants AMD because its cheaper than intels prices. Hes looking for best budget performance system he can get. His budget is $800 i can persuade him to go intel if you can stay within that budget. He needs CPU/Mobo/RAM/SSD/PSU/Case. He will add a Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB 7200RPM $70 @NCIX into his build later. Since its easier to add an HDD to your build than a SSD for OS/Favorite games.
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October 16, 2012 1:25:03 AM

Suisiders said:
So if my friend just sticks to a single GPU then the 965 BE wont bottleneck correct? He says he wants AMD because its cheaper than intels prices. Hes looking for best budget performance system he can get.

If it does bottleneck it would be very minimal. If he wants to go for just best bang for your buck, AMD is definitely the way to go, but it would be better to just stick with a single card. It may not meet the performance of an Intel processor, but the difference would only be a few FPS.
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October 16, 2012 1:49:34 AM

JMidd said:
If it does bottleneck it would be very minimal. If he wants to go for just best bang for your buck, AMD is definitely the way to go, but it would be better to just stick with a single card. It may not meet the performance of an Intel processor, but the difference would only be a few FPS.


So this would be the best setup for him?

Mobo/CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition + ASUS Sabertooth 990FX AM3+ $243 @Micro Center

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600Mhz $40 @Newegg

PSU: Rosewill Capstone 650-M 80+ Gold $100 @Newegg

SSD: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB $100 @Newegg

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit $100 @Newegg

Case: Need one that will fit everything and have a nice amount of space for future H100. (Mid Tower)

GPU: Nvidia GTX 550ti (He said he will use that for now until he gets his new PC built)

Total: $583 (Not including Case)

What would be better:
ASUS Sabertooth 990FX $135 @Micro Center
ASUS Crosshair V Formula 990FX $180 @Micro Center
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October 16, 2012 1:54:26 AM

It's hard for me to say what is best without really knowing what he's looking for. If you want a monstrous beast that laughs at games that are thrown at it, this might not be the best build in the world, but for gaming at medium to high quality at least, it's good. I do recommend not going with the OEM version of Windows, because that license will be tied with that motherboard, and to my knowledge can't be carried over to an upgraded system, if you plan to upgrade the motherboard or go to Intel in the near future.
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October 16, 2012 1:59:51 AM

JMidd said:
It's hard for me to say what is best without really knowing what he's looking for. If you want a monstrous beast that laughs at games that are thrown at it, this might not be the best build in the world, but for gaming at medium to high quality at least, it's good. I do recommend not going with the OEM version of Windows, because that license will be tied with that motherboard, and to my knowledge can't be carried over to an upgraded system, if you plan to upgrade the motherboard or go to Intel in the near future.


Hes wanting a pure gaming system that can take on anything you throw at it for around $800 should he just go for Intel for that? If so recommend a build plz
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October 16, 2012 2:08:02 AM

I would get the i3 and a decent motherboard at microcenter because it's a $50 off bundle.
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October 16, 2012 2:12:26 AM

If he's expecting 60 fps on max settings at 1080p for $800...
Well, it's just not going to happen, no matter if it's AMD or Intel.
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October 16, 2012 2:19:09 AM

DarkSable said:
If he's expecting 60 fps on max settings at 1080p for $800...
Well, it's just not going to happen, no matter if it's AMD or Intel.

I agree, though it also all depends on the games he plans on playing.
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October 16, 2012 2:52:46 AM

JMidd said:
I agree, though it also all depends on the games he plans on playing.


This is what I recommended to my friend. Let me know if I'm misguiding him in the wrong direction or not plz! I picked the 750watt PSU for future SLI/Crossfire setups, I think that's enough right?


CPU/Mobo: i5 3570k + ASRock Z77 Extreme4 $297.67 @Micro Center w/-50 off motherboard bundle

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600Mhz Low Profile $40 @Newegg

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB 7200RPM $70 @NCIX

PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750-M 80+ Gold $110 @Newegg (Enough for SLI/Crossfire in the future)

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit $92.11 @Newegg

Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi $90 @Amazon (Very good case for H100 in the future)

GPU: GTX 550Ti (He owns it)

Total: $699.78
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October 16, 2012 3:28:53 AM

You will probably need to get a $1000 system to play games on max settings. Also if he wants to get a 550ti, he should get a 560se, 7750, or 7770 instead.
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October 16, 2012 3:36:10 AM

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PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750-M 80+ Gold $110 @Newegg (Enough for SLI/Crossfire in the future)

Once again, it all depends on the graphics cards he is going to SLI or Crossfire. I would at least have a 950W and make it a high quality power supply for higher up cards. Corsair, in my opinion, makes the best power supplies.
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October 16, 2012 3:57:10 AM

Just my opinion, he should get another 550ti and SLI.
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October 16, 2012 4:04:43 AM

I think he should get a 560se or 7770 and sli/crossfire them. The 550ti is a super rip off.
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October 16, 2012 9:15:54 AM

lt_dan_zsu said:
You will probably need to get a $1000 system to play games on max settings. Also if he wants to get a 550ti, he should get a 560se, 7750, or 7770 instead.


He already has the GTX 550Ti hes been having that for a while now. Hes decided he just wants to play at least on high with a good resolution so I think the system I told him to get would work. All he would have to do is get another graphics card to play on higher settings.
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October 16, 2012 9:26:47 AM

JMidd said:
This is a pretty good graphics card and not TOO expensive in my opinion.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here's a review of it with some benchmarks as well:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/09/17/asus_geforce_...


Thank you for the suggestion hes gonna get what you recommended because he can get some extra cash and get that instead of paying $400-500 for a high end graphics card! Hes getting this version ASUS GTX660Ti DC2T 2GB
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October 16, 2012 10:34:57 AM

Suisiders said:
Thank you for the suggestion hes gonna get what you recommended because he can get some extra cash and get that instead of paying $400-500 for a high end graphics card! Hes getting this version ASUS GTX660Ti DC2T 2GB



OMG Don't. Nvidia cards except for the 670 and the 680 are total trash. They cut down on memory bandwidth. Really hurts performance. Get the 7950 instead.
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October 16, 2012 9:36:54 PM

Instead of the AMD, i would recommend intel:

http://www.microcenter.com/product/398007/Core_i3_3220_...
http://www.microcenter.com/product/388579/Core_i5_3450_...
http://www.microcenter.com/product/354589/Core_i5_2500K...

With: http://www.microcenter.com/product/387555/Z77_Pro4_LGA_...

Your looking at $210-$270, but it's worth it.


For the graphic card:
He could use a 660 and a 550ti for PHYSX
If not, a 7850/70 or even 7950 is his best bet.

750 watts is enough for crossfire, 850 for crossfire and a PHYSX card
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October 16, 2012 9:41:26 PM

JMidd said:
I'll post some links for the 7950. Both are good cards in my opinion and you can't really go wrong with either.

AMD 7950 GPU(XFX):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AnandTech Review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5476/amd-radeon-7950-revi...

Good luck!


So this build will play all games on High settings/1920x1080p with no lag at all, including multiplayer correct?

CPU/Mobo: i5 3570k + ASRock Z77 Extreme4 $297.67 @Micro Center w/-50 off motherboard bundle

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600Mhz Low Profile $40 @Newegg

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB 7200RPM $70 @NCIX

PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750-M 80+ Gold $110 @Newegg (Enough for SLI/Crossfire in the future)

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit $92.11 @Newegg

Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi $90 @Amazon (Very good case for H100 in the future)

GPU: Saphire or MSI or Gigabyte 7950? $330 @Newegg


Total: $699.78
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October 16, 2012 11:22:03 PM



I would definetly go with that PSU because he decided that crossfire/sli is to much trouble for him he just wants a single graphics card. So 620w would be enough but how well does that psu work? Ive heard alot of Rosewill PSUs are junk except for the capstone series. Also he wants the Radeon 7950 because its alot cheaper for his budget. Also which brand would be better XFX, MSI, Gigabyte, Saphire, Powercoler, HIS, ASUS, Visiontek? Which would be the best performance/temps for 50+ fps (Multiplayer) on 1920x1080p resolution?

Best one?
Corsair CX600 V2 $60
Antec EarthWatts Green 650 $65
Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W $62

PS: The case link just takes me to the newegg homepage so can you tell me which case it is plz!
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October 17, 2012 12:10:45 AM

Either the Corsair or the Rosewill will work. Both of them are about equal quality and will be more than enough. Also, the reason I picked a 7970 is because I cut down on the PSU and case so he can afford a 7970.

The case is a NZXT Tempest 410 Elite
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October 17, 2012 1:55:36 AM

samuelspark said:
Either the Corsair or the Rosewill will work. Both of them are about equal quality and will be more than enough. Also, the reason I picked a 7970 is because I cut down on the PSU and case so he can afford a 7970.

The case is a NZXT Tempest 410 Elite


My updated build I think it's pretty solid now :D 

CPU/Mobo: i5 3570k + ASRock Z77 Extreme4 $297.67 @Micro Center w/-50 off motherboard bundle

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600Mhz Low Profile $40 @Newegg

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB 7200RPM $70 @NCIX

PSU: Corsair HX650 $120 @Newegg (94$ w/rebate and then 83$ w/promo code CorsairOct16

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit $92.11 @Newegg

Case: NZXT Tempest 410 $70 @Amazon

Total: $689.78 w/rebates: $652.78
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October 17, 2012 2:07:05 AM

Suisiders said:
My updated build I think it's pretty solid now :D 

CPU/Mobo: i5 3570k + ASRock Z77 Extreme4 $297.67 @Micro Center w/-50 off motherboard bundle

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600Mhz Low Profile $40 @Newegg

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB 7200RPM $70 @NCIX

PSU: Corsair HX650 $120 @Newegg (94$ w/rebate and then 83$ w/promo code CorsairOct16

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit $92.11 @Newegg

Case: NZXT Tempest 410 $70 @Amazon

Total: $689.78 w/rebates: $652.78


You really don't need more than a standard 600w to run this machine. Wasting money that could be put toward a SSD.
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October 17, 2012 3:17:14 AM

samuelspark said:
You really don't need more than a standard 600w to run this machine. Wasting money that could be put toward a SSD.


What if he decides to SLI/Crossfire? Lots of people say the HX650 can SLI 2 GTX 680s so I'm sure its enough right?
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October 17, 2012 3:20:22 AM

You said he wants a single gpu. A 7970 alone will crush all
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October 17, 2012 3:24:57 AM

samuelspark said:
You said he wants a single gpu. A 7970 alone will crush all

+1 for that.
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October 17, 2012 4:42:22 AM

Make the 7970 work. That will give him the single biggest performance increase of all options you have talked about. Certianly more so than what CPU to get.
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October 18, 2012 8:45:45 PM

Best answer selected by suisiders.
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