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October 16, 2012 5:22:01 AM

Ok so I had some set-backs coming up with the cash but I've finally done it. I really need some help as this is my first time building a pc myself. I've done so much research and believe I am about as prepared as I could be. Need help though on the best parts for my budget. Any help is much appreciated <3 <3 <3


First off, I'm pretty set on this case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

However I found these combos that you can order with that case that I believe will let me save a good amount of money:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
(there are a bunch of other realllly nice combos with it so look at the other ones also if you think they might be better for me)

I can't find many reviews from people who own it so I'm not sure how good it is. I am also sort of interested in the phantom 410 and this, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (mostly want a case with great cable management and a see through side panel.)




Approximate Purchase Date: thursday/friday

Budget Range: $1000-$1100 Before rebates,after shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming,web surfing,lots of youtube

Are you buying a monitor: No. (I am but I'm buying it with next weeks paycheck xD)

Parts to Upgrade: All new

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg,ncix,amazon

Location: Deltona,Florida 32738

Parts Preferences: Intel cpu

Overclocking: No. I would like a graphics card that is already decently overclocked already unless I can get one thats just as fast thats not overclocked yet for the same price.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: MUST have a SSD and Modular power supply.(want the inside to be clean as possible)Going to be playing wow,torchlight,guild wars,and CS

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My 11 year old HP is finally slowing down lol


Please help guys I would greatly appreciate it <3

- Brittany
October 16, 2012 6:00:57 AM

Two of a few CPU/Mobo Combos
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

That case bundle you had with the promo code from the case.
SSD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU with Promo Code:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Any old ODD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

With the more expensive of the CPU bundles and the two promo codes, it is $1191.42. Not counting shipping as I live on the other side of the country.
I forgot about the OS until the end. If you don't plan on overclocking the CPU, you could choose a cheaper, locked version. The motherboard can also be changed then, and finally, if it's still over budget, the GPU could probably be lowered to a GTX 660 and still be awesome at 1080p.
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October 16, 2012 6:20:11 AM

Looks like a pretty nice build. Pretty much everything you put in looks like they have great sale prices at the moment. I can stretch my budget to $1200 if I can get somewhat of a performance gain.

I've been hearing alot about how good the radeon 7k series is though and that is the main reason I'm not ordering this computer as we speak. Is there a general consensus on which gpu is better for mmorpg's?
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October 16, 2012 6:44:53 AM

taylorswift said:
Looks like a pretty nice build. Pretty much everything you put in looks like they have great sale prices at the moment. I can stretch my budget to $1200 if I can get somewhat of a performance gain.

I've been hearing alot about how good the radeon 7k series is though and that is the main reason I'm not ordering this computer as we speak. Is there a general consensus on which gpu is better for mmorpg's?


Yes, they are also good for most games. We've reached the point where only a few games are only playable at max settings with 1080p with the highest end graphics cards. (Dare I say because of lazy console ports?)




That is a Guild Wars 2 Benchmark and while it doesn't have the listed card, it should be above 580 level in most games.

This is WoW



Btw: You could always go with a cheaper motherboard and add in an HDD or a CPU cooler.
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October 16, 2012 7:02:55 AM

Well, hello again!

Anandtech recently did a pretty thorough review of the Inwin GRone (always makes me think groan) here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6299/inwin-grone-case-rev...


I can take a stab at putting together a build for you again if you'd like. Was there anything particularly you didn't like about the ones from the last thread and want to change, aside from the case?
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October 16, 2012 7:46:06 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper M3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($95.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($116.93 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec TruePower New 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($97.80 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($92.11 @ Amazon)
Total (before mail-in rebates):$1007.77
Mail-in Rebates:$-40.00
Total: $967.77
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Btw, parts have been selected based on their ratings/reviews. Also the CPU is an Ivy Bridge I3 given that you don't want to overclock :D 
The Antec PSU is partly modular and will fit your needs without leaving any cables trailing around in the casing.
If you want to cut back more on the Total Cost, you can switch to an Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg) which will save you like $55 (given that newegg is including a 'Free 2x4GB memory' offer).
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October 16, 2012 9:58:03 AM

IF you just gaming on 1 monitor... you'll hardly need to jump in to sli/cfx bandwagon... particularly at 1080p resolution.. just buy a single powerful graphics card and you're good to go.. and maybe 2 to 3 years then move on to next gen card..

http://www.microcenter.com/product/354589/Core_i5_2500K...
Intel Core i5 2500K - $160

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSI Z77A-G43 - $100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB CML8GX3M2A1600C9 - $40

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 - $31

http://www.microcenter.com/product/364545/m4_CT128M4SSD...
Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD2 128GB - $80

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&vpn=WD10EZEX&man...
Western Digital Caviar Blue - $81

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Thermaltake Toughpower XT TPX-675M - $67

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAPPHIRE 100352-2L Radeon HD 7950 3GB - $290

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Fractal Design Define R4 with Window Black - $120

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - $100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LG DVD Burner GH24NS90 - $18


total: $1087 after rebates excluding shipping


if you looking for cheaper case... these 3 are what i would suggest..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65171&vpn=ELEVEN%20HUN...

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004K4TEA4/?tag=pcpapi-20


there are things to note though.. the mobo that've listed isn't sli/cfx capable... so if you're still heading towards that direction(which i don't think you'll ever need)... you'll probably have buy another 1... for psu one graphics card buy a between 600 to 650watts.. and 2 cards around 850 watts for more power to spare.. i know my selection is a bit overkill for one card.. but why not when you can get a modular 1 for just under $70...
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October 16, 2012 10:32:16 AM

This build allows you to add another one of those cards later on in SLI.



http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Scout-Computer-SGC-2100-... $102.00
+ $0.00 shipping
CM Storm Scout 2 - Gaming Mid Tower Computer Case with Carrying Handles (SGC-2100-KWN1) - Black

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO750W-Semi-Modular-80Plus-S... $111.71 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping | Price after rebate: $101.71
XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus 750 Watt Power Supply (Silver)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $284.98 save: $25.00
Intel Core i5-3330 Ivy Bridge 3.0GHz (3.2GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53330
ASRock Z77 Extreme3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $38.99 FREE SHIPPING
Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PV38G160C9K

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Drive-B... $22.25 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Cache-Desktop-Dri... $83.57 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Western Digital 1 TB WD Blue SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive

http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-2-5-Inch-SH103S3-... $92.26 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Kingston HyperX 3K 120 GB SATA III 2.5-Inch 6.0 Gb/s Solid State Drive SH103S3/120G

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-PCI-Express-Displayport-... $229.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC 2GB GDDR5 PCI-Express 3.0 DVI-I/DVI-D/HDMI/Displayport SLI Ready Graphics Card GV-N660OC-2GD
Core Clock: 1033MHz (Base) 1098MHz (Boost) - Memory Clock: 6008MHz

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $92.11 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

Total: $1,058.36 *not including shipping & rebates


Fans for that case up above.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-120mm-Case-R4-L2R-2... $8.49 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Cooler Master 120mm Red LED Case Fan - (R4-L2R-20CR-GP)

or...

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-120mm-Silent-Value/... $12.66 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Cooler Master 120mm Silent Case Fan 4-in-1 Value Pack - (R4-S2S-124K-GP)
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October 16, 2012 11:04:57 AM

Here's what I came up with:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

That's the case you want (GRone) with a $40 discount on the paired ASUS GTX 660 Ti, since you can get the RAM for free with the Asrock Extreme4 motherboard promo running right now.

Those two combos come out to about $560 combined. Then, for the rest:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($186.97 @ CompUSA)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($92.11 @ Amazon)
Total: $603.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

So that gives you a pretty killer rig at about $1160 total. I included a 256GB SSD in the mix since multiple MMOs will eat up space awfully fast, but you could drop that down to a 120 if you don't care about having all your games on the SSD.
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October 16, 2012 12:07:00 PM

Everyone last week was recommending the i5 3750,now 3 people say other processors. Can I ask what the difference between them is?

I want this computer to be able to play the newest games for atleast 2 years.
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October 16, 2012 1:08:30 PM

taylorswift said:
Everyone last week was recommending the i5 3750,now 3 people say other processors. Can I ask what the difference between them is?

I want this computer to be able to play the newest games for already 2 years.


As per this review on Tom's whereby they investigated the bottlenecks caused by CPU on gaming performance, Core i3 will be sufficient for your needs.

Quote:
If you have a dual-core CPU at around 3 GHz, then invest your money into a graphics card, as most games are GPU-limited. This is not something that will change with new DirectX 11 games.
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October 16, 2012 1:48:23 PM

taylorswift said:
Everyone last week was recommending the i5 3750,now 3 people say other processors. Can I ask what the difference between them is?

I want this computer to be able to play the newest games for atleast 2 years.



i5 3000 series was built in 22nm manufacturing process... has better built-in intel hd graphics and support for pcie 3.0 interface.. while i5 2000 series is based on 32nm process.. lesser beefy built-in gpu.. and support pcie 2.0.. if you're asking for a processor that can provide you gaming performance that you desired... then i can tell you they are identical in terms of gaming performance.. whether you pick a i5 3000 series or i5 2000 series it's just the same... only now i5 2500k sells for $160 at microcenter which is why i recommend that... regarding the better built-in graphics capabilities in i5 3000 series is irrelevant because you're going to use a discrete graphics card for gaming.. and as for support pcie 3.0 tests already shows that a discrete graphics card running at pcie 3.0 interface provides zero difference compared to a card running a pcie 2.0.. which is why i5 2500k is a very compelling choice considering its price..
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October 16, 2012 2:24:17 PM

Hm thats pretty interesting. I dont know exactly what the nm stuff is but as long as it doesn't affect gaming then of course i would love to save money. I trust your answer, but most gaming builds in my budget range that I've taken a look at suggest the 3k series. If one or two people can confirm thought about the 2500 being the best choice for a $1100 gaming rig then I will go with it :) 
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October 16, 2012 2:41:29 PM

taylorswift said:
Hm thats pretty interesting. I dont know exactly what the nm stuff is but as long as it doesn't affect gaming then of course i would love to save money. I trust your answer, but most gaming builds in my budget range that I've taken a look at suggest the 3k series. If one or two people can confirm thought about the 2500 being the best choice for a $1100 gaming rig then I will go with it :) 



i think most ppl will ans you with the difference that i've mentioned just now... the nm thing is actually the size of transistor in the cpu die..
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October 16, 2012 2:47:09 PM

phenom90 recommended the 2500k based on its price point and its value WHEN overclocked. If you are planning to overclock the core i5 2500k above 4ghz, then u got bang for your buck.

However, you'll get mostly the same gaming experience, be it core i5 2500k or core i3 3220. So invest that additional money into a better GPU while getting a core i3 :p 
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October 16, 2012 2:59:20 PM

I wasn't planning on overclocking because this is my first ever build and I'm still pretty un-easy about putting this thing together So I haven't had much time to research overclocking
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October 16, 2012 4:22:01 PM

taylorswift said:
I wasn't planning on overclocking because this is my first ever build and I'm still pretty un-easy about putting this thing together So I haven't had much time to research overclocking


Go with the Core i3 then. No point if you don't want to overclock.
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October 16, 2012 4:35:54 PM

I personally would go for phenom90's build. As a mmo player myself i can tell you that you'll benefit from that extra cpu power from an i5 over an i3 especially in gw2. I know you mentionned you didnt want to overclock with what's cool with msi's oc genie is you don't have to do nothing lol you press one button and it auto overclock itself safely, making overclocking a joke. A bigger gpu is always better especialy in situation where theres alot of action (GvG) you'll want everything to remain smooth so with 7950 wich is a little step down from a 670 will give you all you need . I think a dual core for gaming now is fine tho a quad ismost of ghe time a better solution for now and for fhe future. All of this in a nice fractal design R4 windowed case which one of my personnal favorite
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October 16, 2012 4:53:39 PM

a quad core cpu is better choice for gaming.. even when you're not overclocking..
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October 16, 2012 5:30:15 PM

Yea I need a GPU and CPU that can handle lots of fights/things going on at once the best. I really don't want choppy gaming.
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October 16, 2012 6:26:20 PM

In your last thread you said you might want to be able to overclock at some point in the future, which is why everyone was suggesting the i5 3570k the last time around. Now that you're sure it's not necessary, it opens up some other options that weren't really viable before.

I would also suggest still going with a quad core i5. In particular, the i5 3450 or 3470 is pretty close to identical stock performance of the 3570k, but saves you some cash because it's a locked (non-overclockable) CPU.
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October 16, 2012 6:30:46 PM

Ah gotcha. Do they sell already overclocked cpu's? I know I saw overclocked GPU's
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October 16, 2012 6:39:52 PM

taylorswift said:
Ah gotcha. Do they sell already overclocked cpu's? I know I saw overclocked GPU's


too bad no.. you have to do it yourself..
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October 16, 2012 7:37:51 PM

taylorswift said:
Hm thats pretty interesting. I dont know exactly what the nm stuff is but as long as it doesn't affect gaming then of course i would love to save money. I trust your answer, but most gaming builds in my budget range that I've taken a look at suggest the 3k series. If one or two people can confirm thought about the 2500 being the best choice for a $1100 gaming rig then I will go with it :) 

This is a new build correct? So forget already about the older Sandy Bridge tech aka 2500K. Also use google and look up some of the benchmarks and questions you have seeing how there is several reviews with benchmarks done on just about every cpu and video card out there today.

Any cpu with the letter "K" at the end of it like 3570K means it can be over clocked but these Ivy Bridge cpu's aren't all that great for over clocking so I would save the money. No big deal seeing how over clocking your cpu with these IB cpu's doesn't gain you much in regards to more FPS in games. Also there is no pre over clocked cpu's out there. I would get an Ivy Bridge i-5 cpu (quad core) and call it good. That combo I posted in that build further up is a steal atm seeing how that board supports dual cards and you save $25 on the combo with the cpu.
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October 16, 2012 7:55:01 PM

Im going to go over everyone's responses tonight when I get home from work. I appreciate all the help So far. Its hard for me to type on my pop hone So sorry for all the grammatical mistakes lol.

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October 16, 2012 7:57:24 PM

taylorswift said:
Im going to go over everyone's responses tonight when I get home from work. I appreciate all the help So far. Its hard for me to type on my pop hone So sorry for all the grammatical mistakes lol.

That's a good idea and it's also a good idea to use google to look at the reviews with benchmarks so you aren't just taking peoples word for it. This site along with a hundred others review these products just for that purpose.
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October 17, 2012 3:16:42 AM

Alright so this is what I'm feeling most comfortable with so far. I am unsure about brands but this is what I'm thinking so far.


I will NOT be overclocking,however I still want a very fast/smooth gaming experience so I will pay extra for an over clocked gpu/better cpu if it will help a good amount.

Intel quad core processor- I am completely clueless on which ones are quad core. I'm guessing all i5's?

7950 gpu - I can come up with enough money for the 7970ghz but their is only one for sale on new egg and it has kind of bad reviews so I'd rather stay away from it. However I do want a gpu that will run flawlessly with WOW,GW2,Torchlight,etc.. (that 660 that Why_Me posted above looks tempting though)

Samsung 256gb SSD - I've been hearing great things about samsung. If I get the 256 then I think I should be able to just get like a 500gb HDD to install everything besides games on?

modular psu- I would like a psu that is a little above what I actually need. I heard it's better to not make it over work itself.

windows 7 - cheapest

Ram - I have no idea on what type of ram I need for the best gaming experience I can afford. So I will pretty much go with whatever you guys think.

Motherboard - This is another thing I don't know much about. The only thing is I would like one that is labeled good so I know where to plug things into since this is my first ever build.(keep in mind I'm not overclocking)

Cheap optical drive and I really do like those In-Win cases but my main priority is getting a case with a window,great cable managment,and has removable dust filters.

If someone could attempt to make me a build with the things I like that would be great. Feel free to put in your knowledge also.

I'M NOW WILLING TO INCREASE MY BUDGET - I am willing to go up to $1300 but ONLY if I will see a significant gain in performance. Otherwise I'd like to keep it between $1000-$1100.

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October 17, 2012 3:24:37 AM

taylorswift said:
Alright so this is what I'm feeling most comfortable with so far. I am unsure about brands but this is what I'm thinking so far.


I will NOT be overclocking,however I still want a very fast/smooth gaming experience so I will pay extra for an over clocked gpu/better cpu if it will help a good amount.

Intel quad core processor- I am completely clueless on which ones are quad core. I'm guessing all i5's?

7950 gpu - I can come up with enough money for the 7970ghz but their is only one for sale on new egg and it has kind of bad reviews so I'd rather stay away from it. However I do want a gpu that will run flawlessly with WOW,GW2,Torchlight,etc.. (that 660 that Why_Me posted above looks tempting though)

Samsung 256gb SSD - I've been hearing great things about samsung. If I get the 256 then I think I should be able to just get like a 500gb HDD to install everything besides games on?

modular psu- I would like a psu that is a little above what I actually need. I heard it's better to not make it over work itself.

windows 7 - cheapest

Ram - I have no idea on what type of ram I need for the best gaming experience I can afford. So I will pretty much go with whatever you guys think.

Motherboard - This is another thing I don't know much about. The only thing is I would like one that is labeled good so I know where to plug things into since this is my first ever build.(keep in mind I'm not overclocking)


Cheap optical drive and I really do like those In-Win cases but my main priority is getting a case with a window,great cable managment,and has removable dust filters.

If someone could attempt to make me a build with the things I like that would be great. Feel free to put in your knowledge also.

I'M NOW WILLING TO INCREASE MY BUDGET - I am willing to go up to $1300 but ONLY if I will see a significant gain in performance. Otherwise I'd like to keep it between $1000-$1100.

Switch out the SSD and video card in that build I posted and your good to go.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T3GQ0G/ref=s9_hps_... <----- Samsung SSD


http://www.amazon.com/MSI-R7950-TWIN-FROZR-3GD5/dp/B007... <----- 7950
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October 17, 2012 3:31:18 AM

Okay my question is that msi gpu says the speed is 880mhz. The one you suggested says 1033mhz. Does that mean the one you posted in better/faster since I'm not overclocking myself?
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October 17, 2012 3:32:36 AM

All i5s are quad cores, yes. I would just point you back up to the build I already posted, it has everything you are asking for. :p 
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October 17, 2012 3:33:18 AM

taylorswift said:
Okay my question is that msi gpu says the speed is 880mhz. The one you suggested says 1033mhz. Does that mean the one you posted in better/faster since I'm not overclocking myself?

That 7950 has more VRAM, faster FSB, etc... the 660 I posted is a good one but in the long run the 7950 is the better gpu.
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October 17, 2012 3:35:59 AM

Okay. I believe then I will be going with your build then. I might change up the case but that shouldn't matter much right?

What exactly do u mean by dual cards? Dual gpu's? If so I don't really know why I would need dual.
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October 17, 2012 3:36:02 AM

ckholt83 said:
All i5s are quad cores, yes. I would just point you back up to the build I already posted, it has everything you are asking for. :p 

I just saw that build you posted after reading this post. It's a good one. The only thing I would change on it is the psu to that XFX 750w I posted so the OP has some headroom for dual cards. The XFX is a Seasonic OEM so no losing quality, just gaining amps and watts.
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October 17, 2012 3:45:01 AM

taylorswift said:
Okay. I believe then I will be going with your build then. I might change up the case but that shouldn't matter much right?

What exactly do u mean by dual cards? Dual gpu's? If so I don't really know why I would need dual.


My build, or Why_Me's?

And yes, he does mean dual GPUs, as in adding a second matching card a few years later to extend the life span of the rig. In my opinion, SLI is almost never worth the hassle, and I would personally suggest just replacing the card with a newer single GPU if it ever gets to that point.

As it is, the 660 Ti should be plenty of muscle to last you for years to come. Alternately, there is another combo deal with the GROne and a GTX 670 here if you really want to futureproof. That would bring the total to around $1200.

Edit: And to be clear, swapping the PSU in my build for the one Why_Me suggests would be fine, it's only $10 more. I'm just saying it almost certainly wouldn't be necessary, whereas I think his stance is 'better safe than sorry'. :) 
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October 17, 2012 3:51:38 AM

The combo for the 670 is $70 more than the 660ti combo with my case. I don't mind paying that at all if it will most likely help future proof my rig. (Also would the graphics be a bit better)

But then again I've been hearing so many things about the 7950. ahhh!!! idk what to do lol. This shouldn't be this difficult =/
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October 17, 2012 3:55:00 AM

It's $50 difference when you take the $20 rebate into account, if I am looking at it correctly.

The graphics wouldn't be any 'better' for the foreseeable future, the 660Ti should be able to handle all the games you play at maximum settings without breaking a sweat.

The 670 would essentially be insurance against the possibility that you might start playing a game that comes out a few years from now which is more demanding than the existing titles. That's what we mean by future proofing. :) 
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October 17, 2012 3:59:41 AM

Normally the 7950 is a better value in terms of 'bang for buck' compared to the 660 Ti, but that's not taking into account the $40 combo discount you'd be getting by purchasing it with the case you want. In this instance, the 660 Ti is a better deal.

The 670 is more powerful than either the 7950 or the 660 Ti. Personally I would splurge the extra $50 for the 670 since we are still under your budget cap, but I'm saying you would be absolutely and completely fine with either one.

Edit: It's also worth noting, as you can see in the benchmarks that Novulux posted above, that WoW runs better on nvidia cards than AMD. Add that to the $40 combo discount with the case, and I can't see any reason to opt for the 7950 OR the 7970. They will perform better for you and cost you less, it's a win/win.
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October 17, 2012 4:00:56 AM

Alright. I will try and do some math then and figure out the price of everything. If it comes out to around $1150 , I should have the funds to order it on thursday. I'm going with the your build, the 670 combo ,and why_me's psu.

I believe also I will need twist ties,zip ties,and an anti static wrist strap. Unfortunately my house is all carpet besides my extremely small kitchen. Would it be ok to build this in my room if I layed some cardboard down all over?

I just saw on pc partpicker that the 3750 is only $30 more. Would it be worth it to go with that over the 3450? ( I don't know the difference)

Edit: I'm hoping the nvidia card will run well with all mmorpg's and I might try out some fps's as well.
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October 17, 2012 4:11:11 AM

well.. for $150 you can get this...

http://www.microcenter.com/product/388579/Core_i5_3450_...

it's a locked multiplier cpu and its for non overclocker user...

however.. simply $10 more you'll get this..

http://www.microcenter.com/product/354589/Core_i5_2500K...

gives you the option to tinker with the multiplier and overclocking..


since you're not going to overclock i don't think you're going to sli/cfx either.. because at some point if you're running a sli/cfx system with just stock speed cpu.. it may bottleneck and causing your sli/cfx unable to show its true potential...

i've put down a list for you... take a look..

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pc-power--cooling-power-su...
PC Power & Cooling
PPCMK3S600 - $70

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-h77mag43
MSI
H77MA-G43 - $88

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=345
SST-SG09B

http://www.microcenter.com/product/373900/Hyper_212_EVO...
Hyper 212 EVO - $30

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml8gx3m2a1...
Corsair
CML8GX3M2A1600C9 - $40

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/plextor-internal-hard-driv...
Plextor
PX-128M5S - $120

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-driv...
Seagate
ST1000DM003 - $70

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn670...
Gigabyte
GV-N670OC-2GD - $360 @ amazon


about the casing that i've recommend... look here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76SQntNJwP8

i think i saw it at newegg.. but too bad i couldn't go their website to show you..
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October 17, 2012 4:15:52 AM

taylorswift said:
Alright. I will try and do some math then and figure out the price of everything. If it comes out to around $1150 , I should have the funds to order it on thursday. I'm going with the your build, the 670 combo ,and why_me's psu.


Sounds good!

taylorswift said:
I believe also I will need twist ties,zip ties,and an anti static wrist strap. Unfortunately my house is all carpet besides my extremely small kitchen. Would it be ok to build this in my room if I layed some cardboard down all over?


Your GRone actually comes with some cable ties included. I usually don't bother with the anti static wrist strap, but it doesn't hurt to be cautious either. The cardboard should be fine, I've also used newspaper in a pinch.

taylorswift said:
I just saw on pc partpicker that the 3750 is only $30 more. Would it be worth it to go with that over the 3450? ( I don't know the difference)

Edit: I'm hoping the nvidia card will run well with all mmorpg's and I might try out some fps's as well.


The difference between the 3450 and the stock 3570 is marginal at best, and not really worth the extra money. The only reason to go with the 3570k is overclocking.

The 670 will absolutely stomp any mmorpg you can throw at it, as well as any FPS on the market. If you don't believe me, there are about a bajillion benchmarks out there to ease your fears. :) 
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October 17, 2012 4:18:26 AM

Thank you so much for all your help <3 Hopefully I will be able to build this thing lol.

Thanks everyone for taking the time to try and help me out also <3
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October 17, 2012 4:21:45 AM

Have to jet for now, but if I remember I'll check back in later tonight and post some video tutorial links on how to build your own PC so you can study up!
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October 17, 2012 4:28:29 AM

phenom90 said:
well.. for $150 you can get this...

http://www.microcenter.com/product/388579/Core_i5_3450_...

it's a locked multiplier cpu and its for non overclocker user...

however.. simply $10 more you'll get this..

http://www.microcenter.com/product/354589/Core_i5_2500K...

gives you the option to tinker with the multiplier and overclocking..


since you're not going to overclock i don't think you're going to sli/cfx either.. because at some point if you're running a sli/cfx system with just stock speed cpu.. it may bottleneck and causing your sli/cfx unable to show its true potential...

i've put down a list for you... take a look..

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pc-power--cooling-power-su...
PC Power & Cooling
PPCMK3S600 - $70

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-h77mag43
MSI
H77MA-G43 - $88

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=345
SST-SG09B

http://www.microcenter.com/product/373900/Hyper_212_EVO...
Hyper 212 EVO - $30

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml8gx3m2a1...
Corsair
CML8GX3M2A1600C9 - $40

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/plextor-internal-hard-driv...
Plextor
PX-128M5S - $120

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-driv...
Seagate
ST1000DM003 - $70

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn670...
Gigabyte
GV-N670OC-2GD - $360 @ amazon


about the casing that i've recommend... look here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76SQntNJwP8

i think i saw it at newegg.. but too bad i couldn't go their website to show you..

That microcenter price is in store only. The OP lives in FLORIDA. Also that SSD is a rip off for the price, and you want a backplate for that Gigabyte 670 due to the fact it's almost an inch longer than your normal sized card and it tends to twist when the fans rev up.
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October 17, 2012 4:39:56 AM

Yea I wasn't feeling his build really. I like yours and ckholt's builds the best.

I really wanted to order it thursday but I just did the math and everything comes out to $1247. Thats without twist ties,zip ties,and anti static strap. So unfortunately most likely I will have to wait till next thursday. Im going to try my best though to come up with some extra cash sooner xD

I have a question on shipping. Some stuff says it has shipping charges,some don't. Do they ship everything all together and give me one price or do they add up the shipping on all my items and I pay that amount. (sorry kind of confusing lol)
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October 17, 2012 5:10:23 AM

ckholt83 said:
Have to jet for now, but if I remember I'll check back in later tonight and post some video tutorial links on how to build your own PC so you can study up!


Sounds great! :) 
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October 17, 2012 6:46:14 AM

Okay, here are the same links I gave to a girl in my guild when we bought her the parts for a new PC:

Newegg Guide pt2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls&feature=relm...
Newegg Guide pt3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok&feature=relm...
The first part of the Newegg guide is just general theory and parts selection. You can check it out, but it's sort of redundant at this point.

Here's another general guide from another site:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/video_how_bui...



Also, you might want to pick up the components that are on sale / promo now, and then grab the rest after your next paycheck.
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October 17, 2012 10:17:05 AM

Good idea. I'll order them tomorrow night: )
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October 18, 2012 1:24:11 AM

Okay I'm about to order the parts now :)  Any last comments/concerns before I spend almost $1300 for just a tower ><
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