About the new T-Bred Article...

[JimStapleton]

This was contained in the article:

> With the launch of the Thoroughbred core, AMD Athlon has
> reached the third step in its evolution. The first core,
> the Thunderbird, was already introduced around two years
> ago. The manufacturer made a further step with the launch
> of the Palomino core in October 2001, where the new
> features essentially consisted of an SSE command set
> extension and optimized cache lines.


Wasn't the Tbird technically the 3rd core?

First and Second cores had no nameing schemes, 3rd core was Tbird, fourth core was Palamino (and that is why it was called the Athlon 4), and this is the 5th core, not the 3rd core.

 

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3rd ATHLON core......champ.

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[Matisaro]

1st athlon core-athlon classic
2nd athlon core-athlon tbird
3rd athlon core-athlon xp
4th athlon core-tbred

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[AMD_Man]

1st athlon core-athlon classic
2nd athlon core-athlon tbird
3rd athlon core-athlon xp
4th athlon core-tbred

No actually, it's:

1. Athlon Classic 0.25 micron
2. Athlon Classic 0.18 micron
3. Athlon T-Bird
4. Athlon XP Palamino
5. Athlon XP T-Bred

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[Matisaro]

2. Athlon Classic 0.18 micron

I may be wrong, its been a long time, but iirc all slot a athlons which were .18 were actually just slot mounted tbirds, and there were no .18 micron off die cache athlons.

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[FatBurger]

According to that article there were. There wouldn't be much of a difference if so, however.

But if you're right, then the Palomino wouldn't be the "Athlon 4".

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[paulmartin]

sorry but where is this new article?

 

[FatBurger]

Did you magically teleport straight to the forums without noticing the webpage in front?

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[buckman666]

they should compate p4 with ddr memory too, 'coz a lot of people build pc with this. rambus is going to die, or at least seems to.

 

[FatBurger]

I disagree on all counts, but no matter.

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[paulmartin]

maybe yet?

1. Athlon Classic 0.25 micron - slot1 - external L2
2. Athlon Classic 0.25 micron - socketA - integrated L2
3. Athlon Classic 0.18 micron - socketA - integrated L2
4. Athlon T-Bird - socketA - integrated L2
5. Athlon XP Palamino - socketA - integrated L2
6. Athlon XP T-Bred - socketA - integrated L2

 

[Matisaro]

There was no .25 athlon with on die cache, the .18 shrink is what allowed them to put the cache on die, also the slot a with integrated cache is just a tbird on a slot, it is not a whole different core.


4 athlons, only 4(5 now with tbred).

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[FatBurger]

#3 and #4 are the same thing, #2 didn't exist as Mat said, and there was another one, a .18 Slot A.

Tbred is the 5th Athlon.

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[paulmartin]

yes, the #1 was an error:
1. Athlon Classic 0.25 micron - slotA - external L2

 

[siliconjon]

Well, they're not talking about which number of core it was...but rather, which stage of evolution in which they are with the newest release:

Athlon (original): Introduces AMD into the marketplace as a competative and able producer of consumer CPU's

Thunderbird: Stage 1 of their EVOLUTION of the Athlon core
Palmino: Evolution 2
Thoroughbred, Evolution #3 of the Athlon core

Yes, I believe that is what they are speaking of.

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[FatBurger]

Oh, I didn't even notice that it said Slot 1 instead of Slot A.
There were two Slot As I believe, one .25 and one .18.

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[Matisaro]

The .18 slot a was a tbird on a slot, it is not a whole different core.



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[Methos]

I dont think Fatburger was implying that they were completely different. I think he was just saying that there was two types of slot A athlons, one at .25 and one at .18

 

[FatBurger]

Yeah, basically. The L2 was still off-die though, wasn't it?

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[eden]

Since we're on the topic of CPUs.... :lol:

Does anyone know if the Coppermine 733MHZ come in two forms? I mean is it slot AND socket?
I was reading a THG article on the CuMine, and it only had Slot 1 733MHZ, and my friend seems to own a Socket.



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[FatBurger]

Coppermine was the socket version only, I believe. I could be wrong, it's been a while.

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[eden]

That is what is weird. If you check on THG's article about CuMine, it shows Slot 1.
Check this: <A HREF="http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/99q4/991025/coppermine-05.html" target="_new">http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/99q4/991025/coppermine-05.html</A>
Weird!

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[Matisaro]

Yeah, basically. The L2 was still off-die though, wasn't it?

No, there is no off die cache .18 micron athlon.

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[siliconjon]

Yes, that chip [733coppermine] comes in both FCPGA and SECC2


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