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Completed Builds - Questions - Custom Water Cooling Advice - Advice

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October 18, 2012 8:14:49 PM

Looking for some input:
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Here is my build:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Price: 229.99
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GPU: HIS - AMD Radeon 7850 2GB - 256-bit
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Price: 194.99

NOTE: I do not care about all the eye candy in games. Xbox 360 graphics are perfect for me. I ust want medium settings at a solid 30FPS and I would be happy here.

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Mobo: Asrock Z77 Extreme 3 - LGA 1155
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Price: 119.99
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Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2x4GB) (Quantity: 2)
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Price: 38.99
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Storage: Seagate Barracude 1TB 7200RPM
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Price: 89.99
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Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Price: 29.99
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Case: Cooler Master HAF 922
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Price: 99.99
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PSU: RoseWill 750W PSU - Gold Rated
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Price: 109.99
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Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Price: 49.99

NOTE: I probably will hold off on buying this as well.

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Miscellaneous:
1: VGA too RCA Adapter
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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My Budget: (As of right this second) = $1000

I wanna future proof my system as much as possible. Without going overboard and all.

I do NOT need: OS, Keyboard/Mouse, Optical Drives, Monitors.

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WATER COOLING:

NOTE: I have chosen the Hyper 212 Plus cooler for now.

I plan to get a custom water cooling kit in the future. I plan to spend maybe $200 or so on a custom water cooling kit. What I'm wondering is, is it going to be worth it? I've always wanted a water cooling kit. I've really been considering a closed loop solution as well just because I really want water cooling.

I've been considering the Corsair H60/H80. From what I get these are not worth it however. Can someone give me some more input on this?

Also, can someone recommend me a good custom (hopefully like a prebuilt water cooling kit) for around 100-150 Dollars (maybe even 200 if thats not possible). Please help me out on this aspect. I will be ordering a custom kit in the future if the H80 really is a horrible idea and I'd be much better off without it.

How hard is it co put one of these together? I've never built a computer before.

I've been considering this: http://www.swiftech.com/apogeedrive2.aspx - Is it worth it? Does it have everything I need? Is it decent? How hard is it to assemble?

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Overclocking:

I plan to slighly overclock for the time being, but I will probably attempt to do more than just a tiny bit once I have a better water cooling kit.

My plan right now is to OC too about 4.2ghz roughly...

Also looking for input on overclocking suggestions, advice ect.

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Power Supply:

What i'm also wondering is, is a Gold rated good quality PSU really gonna save me money in the long run. I'll probably have my computer on about 24/7 (is this bad for a computer?), It obviously wont be at max load 24/7 but I would guess for about 8-10 hours a day will be about 60+%.

So Should I save some money and get a Bronze rated PSU? I don't want a huge power bill. Should I stay at 750W or would 550W be just fine? I'm leaning towards 650W personally. Advice would be appreciated.

I might CFX my GPU in the future as well. I'll be doing some OC'ing and major OC'ing in the future when I have custom water cooling.

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October 18, 2012 8:31:02 PM

**** You don't care about eye candy and you think an xbox is just fine?

What the heck are you thinking about custom watercooling for then.
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October 18, 2012 8:33:35 PM

zloginet said:
**** You don't care about eye candy and you think an xbox is just fine?

What the heck are you thinking about custom watercooling for then.


Ok, well getting off topic at this point. And its already stated in my original post. And I don't see a point in this reply. Simply because I want too.
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October 18, 2012 8:36:12 PM

Thoughts: I currently have a smaller closed loop cooler and have been thinking about upgrading to a "real" custom water cooling solution. Mostly because the graphics need to be cooled just as much as the processor does, particularly if I move to crossfire.

IMO - I'm not sure boxed closed loop water cooling systems are worth it. Yes, they are incrementally better than air coolers, but its not a huge difference and sometimes there is gurgling noise (and they are much more expensive).

With regard to the PSU - It would take a while to get a full financial return on a gold PSU because the difference is really between like 85 and 95 percent efficiency. Where this WILL make a big difference is heat. I noticed a large difference in heat output/fan noise when switching from an 80+ PSU to a Gold-rated PSU with variable speed fan.

You would be good with 550w now. Could pull off 500w with current specs and overclock, but 600-650 is a nice healthy margin. When it comes to 2 card crossfire and overclock then I would call 650w your floor.


Edit: From Techbargains: Newegg has the Corsair Professional Series HX650 650W ATX (80PLUS GOLD) Power Supply for a low $82.99 Free Shipping after rebate and Coupon Code: "CorsairOct16" (Exp 10/22).
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October 18, 2012 8:44:30 PM

Custom water is worth it if you want it. Closed loop never worth it IMO.
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October 18, 2012 8:48:07 PM

FinneousPJ said:
Custom water is worth it if you want it. Closed loop never worth it IMO.

Any suggestions on a good water cooling kit? Is the one I posted above decent quality?
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