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October 18, 2012 8:49:36 PM

My motherboard was faulty so I got a replacement, and my SSD is being replaced, as is my CPU.

My Build is as follows:

Corsair 400R Case
Intel 3570k Ivy Bridge
Corsair Vengeance 8 gb 4x2 1600 Mhz
Cooler Master Hyper Evo +
AsRock Z77 Extreme4
Samsung 830 Series 128gb
Seagate Barracuda 1tb
Corsair CX 600 PSU

I'm wondering if I should replace the case and PSU as there is some good sales right now on the following items.

Corsair 500r:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermaltake PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

NZXT Psu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Would it be worth it to switch them out with one of the above? I'm going to add a GPU later on so I know I need a better power supply, preferably Modular. Give me suggestions please.

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October 18, 2012 8:56:46 PM

The Corsair Carbide 500R is one of the best mid-tower cases around, but whether it's worth swapping out a 400R, for it?
Not those PSU's. Corsair PSU's are fine, although CX range is possibly not their best, is certainly OK. XFX, Seasonic, PC Power&Cooling, Antec are all good makes. You didn't list your GPU, to be able to advise on PSU rating.
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October 18, 2012 8:58:12 PM

I'm going to purchase either a 7950 or a Gtx 660ti.
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October 18, 2012 9:36:14 PM

Unless you are planning on two graphics cards, 600w is more than enough, in fact 550w would be OK. You could even go a bit lower with a 660Ti. Seasonic, Rosewill (Hive or Capstone), or PC Power&Cooling all have good quality modular PSU's around that point.
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October 18, 2012 9:47:31 PM

I would go with Seasonic a 520w or 620w version would do just fine and they both come in modular versions.
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October 18, 2012 11:46:25 PM

Yes, that's good PSU, although you really only need the 520w version, certainly with the GTX. The Radeon would also be ok at 520w, although, there, it may be worth going "up one", for more margin. You can OC the Radeon well.
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October 19, 2012 12:05:50 AM

Which card would you recommend?
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October 19, 2012 12:13:41 AM

It depends, a bit, which games you want to play. Overall, across a broad range of games, the HD7950 is better value. Some games, including BF3, Borderlands, Starcraft, Portal 2, are optimised for nVidia, so the GTX 660Ti tends to be better, in those games
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October 19, 2012 3:55:33 AM

My Computer is running at 37c, when it used to run at 30c for the CPU. Do you know what's wrong?
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October 19, 2012 10:09:25 AM

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My Computer is running at 37c, when it used to run at 30c for the CPU. Do you know what's wrong?

Not too sure what you are saying. If you are saying- used to be 30c with CPU only, and, since adding GPU, has gone up to 37c; that's understandable, and would be the case, unless you increase air flow. 37c is fine, anyway.
If you are saying temp has gone up, WITHOUT any hardware change, that is probably due to a reduction in airflow. Have you checked filters? Even if you clean them regularly, they need replacing from time to time. How often depends on the environment. One of your fans could be running slower. May need adjustment, or may be faulty/damaged.
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October 19, 2012 2:16:53 PM

The systems less than a month old, I don't know why it would already need new filters
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October 19, 2012 5:08:16 PM

Assuming you don't have a very dusty environment, you wouldn't expect filters to get heavily contaminated, in a month, although things like smoking, and some pets, CAN cause havoc.
If nothing has been changed, hardware wise, there are a number of possible causes.
1) Could be as simple as you are working the system harder, now, than when you had 30c, and you may simply need to change fan speed settings, for higher load.
2) Filters COULD be contaminated. It's not always possible, by visual inspection, to judge the condition of a filter. It is a good idea to always have a couple of new filters, spare. Then you can check the condition, of an existing filter, by swapping in a new one. If temps immediately improve, substantially, your old filter is dirty. If temps don't drop much, then old filter was OK, and you can put it back in, and save new one, for future use. If you don't have a spare new filter, provided atmosphere isn't obviously dusty: run system, under load until temp stabilises (at 37c, or whatever), then remove intake filter, for a COUPLE of minutes. Even if filter was pretty clean, temp is likely to drop by a couple of degrees. If it immediately drops by a substantial amount, it is time to get new filters (put old one back, until. Slightly high temp is better than no filter) You can usually improve it by blowing compressed air, backwards, through it, or washing (if it is washable)
3) If you have decent fan control on mobo, you can do some "diagnostics". There may be a mobo fault, or a fan fault, causing fan to run too slow. It may just be a case of adjustment. It can be difficult to diagnose, unless you have test equipment, and electrical knowledge. Again, an arguement for keeping a spare, at least intake, fan; then you can always do a temporary swap, to help with diagnostics.
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October 19, 2012 9:03:02 PM

I don't think I have fan filters...? If I do I have no idea what they'd look like I have stock fans with the Corsair 400r
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October 19, 2012 9:48:31 PM

The main intake filter (there's also one in bottom of case) is behind front mesh. That just unclips, although I understand can be quite stiff. Filter itself is held in place, in front of fan(s), with couple of bent clips.
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October 19, 2012 9:55:22 PM

PS I'm in UK, so don't know for sure, but presumably you can get spares, from somewhere like Microcentre. What may be cheaper, if you have a local supplier of heating or air conditioning equipment, you can probably buy a sheet of filter material, and cut several out, to size, and make something up, yourself. Take old filter, with you, to be sure you get something similar/suitable.
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October 20, 2012 3:40:39 AM

Is this setup alright? The fan is hanging over my RAM, and its blowing the hot air towards the exhaust fan, It just doesn't look like the video I watched, the video had it with the fan facing up, blowing the air down or up. I'm so confused. I hope I didn't do it wrong, I just took off the thermal paste and reapplies everything.


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October 20, 2012 4:24:40 AM

I JUST noticed there was an 8 pin CPU Power plug, I NEVER HAD IT PLUGGED IN AND IT WAS RUNNING! Like... What does it actually do if it was working when I didnt have it plugged in?
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October 20, 2012 9:52:26 AM

To be perfectly honest, it's not clear from photos, but it's normal for aftermarket coolers to overhang 1st RAM slot, hence the reason for using low profile RAM.
It is also usual to have PSU cables that don't need to be connected, hence the advantage of modular PSU's, so you can remove cables, that are not required. Different mobo, and graphics cards, require different connection. If you don't use the CORRECT connections, it doesn't necessarily mean that nothing will work, but you will lose some functionality, possibly including your fan control, if you have fans connected to mobo.
If you've not already done so, I recommend you download, and read, the full manual, for the mobo, to ensure you are using the correct connections. Build videos are all very well, but they don't tend to explain, that there are several "options" for wiring, particularly for things, like fans. You can wire fans, directly from PSU, in which case they will run at full speed. Some cases have speed selector switches, so you can manually control fans. You can buy a separate controller, for the fans, or you can wire them to the motherboard, and let the mobo's software determine fan operation (you can usually set the parameters, for that).
The most important fans, to be running correctly, of course, are those on your CPU cooler, or you could damage CPU. Fortunately, your mobo SHOULD shut things down, if it detects a problem there.
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October 20, 2012 2:58:57 PM

Even after I plugged in the CPU 8 pin, it's not any cooler than it was. The fan is on stronger, but definitely not cooler. Do you think my CPU is damaged? Or maybe the cooler?
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October 20, 2012 3:41:42 PM

Firstly, I doubt CPU is "damaged". If it was, it would probably be dead! With respect, you may have 7, or more fans. Input and extract case fans. One or 2 CPU cooler fans. A couple in GPU, and a PSU fan. WHICH fan is on stronger? Which temperature are you refering to? Is this a temperature YOU are measuring, if so where? If it's a temp that mobo is reporting, again, which? It's somewhat difficult to diagnose, at a distance, even with precise info. If I had it sat in front of me, would obviously be easier. You may have to get local repair shop to sort. Probably work out what, if anything, is wrong, in five minutes.
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October 20, 2012 11:08:04 PM

I have 4 Fans. Plus the one on the CPU cooler. it's the CPU temp/ That's what I've been saying...
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October 21, 2012 12:26:48 AM

NOW ITS AT 43 celcius when I'm not doing anything! This is KILLING ME
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October 21, 2012 12:32:23 AM

Are you talking about CPU temp of 37c (I thought you were talking of air temp), as that's nothing. T.case for i5-3570K is 67 deg C, so you definitely don't need to worry about 37. I doubt your CPU cooler fan is running much above minimum, at 37c.
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October 21, 2012 12:35:00 AM

It shows it's at maximum, and my CPU temperature is at 43 now. I'm hardly using it... I've seen people getting 37 celcius at a 4.2 GHz overclock, I'm not even overclocked... :|
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October 21, 2012 1:23:18 AM

If you are saying your system is idling, and the cooler fan is supposed to be running at high speed (and actually is), and your CPU temp is mid 40's, that would suggest that little heat is actually being extracted, by the cooling fan, from the CPU.
The most common causes, for that, would be either the cooler unevenly attached to the processor (eg fixings unevenly tightened), or poorly applied thermal paste. Another possible cause, although unlikely, if fairly new, would be the heat exchanger clogged with dirt. Obviously, shut everything down first. Check the inlet of the heat exchanger isn't dirty first (you may have to remove the fan, to see properly). If that's not a problem, I'm afraid it's a case of removing cooler, from CPU, clean off the old, and re-do thermal paste, and carefully re-fit cooler, being sure to tighten, opposite corners, in turn, to ensure it seats evenly. If those measures don't resolve the problem, your only recourse is to a service company. There could be a manufacturing defect, within the CPU, which is effecting it's ability to transfer heat, from the cores, but it's impossible for me, from here, to ensure all other possibilities have been eliminated, and that you should RMA the processor.
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October 21, 2012 3:11:53 AM

I just reapplied everything thought. I just rebuilt my whole system, it's as even as it can be, It always moves because the thermal paste, and I watched a video thanks to BigCyco and I did the paste EXACTLY how they showed, I think I might just RMA and see how that works. If it doesnt change, then It's something with my cooler...
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October 21, 2012 11:02:05 AM

The thing is, I'm not convinced you actually have a problem. You motherboard sets the speed of your cooler fans (and case fans, if connected to mobo). That will have "default" settings, although software probably gives you scope to adjust (I've not used that mobo, so don't know exactly what facilities you have). Default may be a quiet mode, which only runs cooler fans, at a minimum speed, until CPU temperature reaches a certain point, and THEN starts increasing speed. As I said before, 37c, even 43c, is nothing, in itself, to worry about, provided it doesn't shoot up, dramatically, as soon as CPU does start working harder.
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October 21, 2012 11:08:27 AM

If you are really worried about the situation, I would suggest you start a new thread, in the Motherboard section, titled something like "Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 problem with CPU cooler control", then you're likely to get a response, from someone who actually has the same mobo, who can take you through any diagnostics, step by step, far better than I can, who's never used that particular mobo, or its software.
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October 21, 2012 8:16:15 PM

If I get a GPU will my cpu temp decrease since I'm not using integrated graphics anymore? Just a thought.
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October 21, 2012 11:24:28 PM

If you are not using the onboard graphics, at any time, less heat will be produced, in the processor. It doesn't AUTOMATICALLY mean that temp will drop. You really do need to speak to someone, who has personal experience, of your particular mobo. I do believe that there may not be any problem, and it's all about the settings, in the cooler fan control, on the mobo. It would be perfectly reasonable for mobo to "say"- keep cooler fan on low (quiet), unless temp exceeds some point.
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October 22, 2012 12:06:38 AM

Look at this, I overclocked to 4.2 GHz, temps dropped a little, but why are my temps ALL over the place core wise?
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October 22, 2012 11:15:35 PM

Any help...?
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October 23, 2012 11:08:39 PM

Honestly, there's nothing wrong with those temperatures. You will always get some variation, between cores, unless they are all being used equally. You've only got 12% load there, so only one or two cores are probably doing anything.

If you're really worried, do as I suggested, before. Open a new thread, on the motherboard section, mentioning your mobo model, and you're likely to get a response, from someone, actually using your mobo, who can either put your mind at rest, or take you step by step, through diagnostics, far better than I can, if he feels there actually is an issue, to be resolved.
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