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"PDW" <Spam@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Has anyone tried this lens? I was thinking of getting it for my EOS
>
> PDW
>
I have one and have used it on my EOS30, 300D and 20D.
Excellent lens. Have a look at this review:
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"PDW" <Spam@zen.co.uk> writes:
> Has anyone tried this lens? I was thinking of getting it for my EOS.
If you google for reviews, you'll find very mixed reports. Some
are downright euphoric, others complain about "softness".
When I was considering it, I read a large number of reviews. I found
one site (can't find it now) with full size crops from a complex
street scene (street signs, newspaper stands, etc.) - and even the
corners seemed to be very, very crisp and sharp. Judging from that
particular set of images - it looked like an incredible bargain.
But other samples I've seen show a lens that just fall apart at the
corners.
So - it looks like Sima has quality control issues with this one.
The good samples are very, very good - and the bad samples are really
bad.
If/when I buy this one (I'm tempted) I would not buy online, but
would go to a b&m store and actually try out the samples they have
in stock to make sure that it's a «good» one.
--
- gisle hannemyr [ gisle{at}hannemyr.no - http://folk.uio.no/gisle/ ]
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When you say you live in the real world, which one are you referring to?
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"Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
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> In article <q5vfbmml80.fsf@viisi.ifi.uio.no>, Gisle Hannemyr
> <gisle+njus@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
>
>> So - it looks like Sima has quality control issues with this one.
>> The good samples are very, very good - and the bad samples are really
>> bad.
>
> Sigma has quality control problems with all of their products.
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On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 20:33:17 -0800, Randall Ainsworth
<rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote:
>Oh, I know. But there are always those out there looking to save a buck
>and Sigma will be right there with their mediocre products.
In some ways, it would be better if Sigma's products were mediocre.
Nobody would pay any attention to them and they'd soon disappear off
the radar screen, much like Cosina/Vivitar has today.
The problem is that many of their products aren't mediocre. The
optics are frequently well-designed, but what comes out of
manufacturing is of such variable quality that you feel like you're
coming out of a casino instead of a camera store.
The compatibility issues, especially with Canon bodies, make things
even worse.
The one Sigma lens I own is the 12-24mm. (Since I use film, the Nikon
was not an option.) My copy seems fine, but a friend of mine ended up
exchanging his twice.
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"Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
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>
> I can only speak for myself and my professional career. I never wasted
> my hard earned money on Sigma products. And none of my friends still in
> the business do either.
SO what you are saying is you really have no knowledge of Sigma lenses at
all. Just condem them from hearsay and conjecture. Nice one Randall.
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Dennis Bradley wrote:
> Thought I would come back to the photo groups after a long absence.
> However, having seen that Mr Ainsworth is still around verbally abusing
> anyone who dares mention Sigma, I won't stay for long.
Huh? R.A. is like a whiney child. Irritating but not something to get angry
over. Like all whiney children he is best ignored such that he eventually
learns how to behave. Probably your news reader can filter him out if you can't
do it yourself.
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"Alan Browne" <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote in message
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> Dennis Bradley wrote:
>
> > Thought I would come back to the photo groups after a long absence.
> > However, having seen that Mr Ainsworth is still around verbally abusing
> > anyone who dares mention Sigma, I won't stay for long.
>
> Huh? R.A. is like a whiney child. Irritating but not something to get
angry
> over. Like all whiney children he is best ignored such that he eventually
> learns how to behave. Probably your news reader can filter him out if you
can't
> do it yourself.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
Personally I have yet to find anyone other than the troll posting
obscenities to 35mm group I'd bother filtering. Even idiots sometimes might
have a lucid comment or two. Unfortunately for Randall, he is yet to do
this!
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"PDW" <Spam@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Has anyone tried this lens? I was thinking of getting it for my EOS
Error99'd on my Rebel when I tried the lens at Samy's in LA last spring.
I bought the Sigma 15" fisheye instead. Not too fishy on the Rebel with the
1.6x.
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"Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
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> In article <q5vfbmml80.fsf@viisi.ifi.uio.no>, Gisle Hannemyr
> <gisle+njus@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
>
>> So - it looks like Sima has quality control issues with this one.
>> The good samples are very, very good - and the bad samples are really
>> bad.
>
> Sigma has quality control problems with all of their products.
I don't know about quality control that as much as they are just not always
100% compatible and are usually soft at the fast ends. IMO, it's not about
controlling the quality, it's just making quality equipment in the first
place. You're not buying L glass when you buy a Sigma, but you don't always
have to have L glass to get the shot.
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> Has anyone tried this lens? I was thinking of getting it for my EOS
Michael Reichmann is testing a Canon EF-S 10-12mm lens on his page
(http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/Canon-10-22mm-test.shtml)
and a small part of this test is about comparing it with the Sigma lens.
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>From what I've been able to gather, the Fuji S3 seems to offer the
lowest
noise and widest dynamic range of the current crop of SLRS. Is this
accurate?
Also, are the Olympus 300 and E1 the only SLRS with the ultrasonic CCD
cleaner?
Thanks!
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"RichA" <rander3127@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> >From what I've been able to gather, the Fuji S3 seems to offer the
> lowest
> noise and widest dynamic range of the current crop of SLRS. Is this
> accurate?
> Also, are the Olympus 300 and E1 the only SLRS with the ultrasonic CCD
> cleaner?
> Thanks!
>
I can't find a review of the S3, just previews, which is odd for a camera
that was announced back in Feb. But DPReview only has a preview, and
Steve's Digicams doesn't list it with their reviews. So I can't really
comment on which has the lowest noise, but the 20D Canon has set the
standard for less than full size sensors, as far as noise goes. I've heard
that the Fuji is supposed to set new standards for dynamic range, due to its
odd primary/secondary arrangement of pixels.
And, yes, the two Oly bodies are the only ones with the sensor cleaner.
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