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March 2, 2013 11:53:06 AM

hi everybody i have the motherboard: gigabyte GA-M68M-S2P(rev 2.3) which has a AM2+ socket and my price range is till 3000rs(approximately 50 - 60 $) so can someone please suggest me an awesome processor under this price range( i have been searching a lot but couldn't find the best one)
here is the list of supported processors for my mobo: http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Gigabyte/GA-M68M-S2P%28re...
thanks in advance :) 

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March 2, 2013 2:08:38 PM

At that price you won't find good cpu.better wait for 3 months and then upgrade your cpu to intel's new socket cpu.what is purpose of upgrade? Gaming or ..
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March 2, 2013 5:11:15 PM

ASHISH65 said:
At that price you won't find good cpu.better wait for 3 months and then upgrade your cpu to intel's new socket cpu.what is purpose of upgrade? Gaming or ..

i wanted it for gaming, currently i have AMD athlon 64 X2 4800+ and it does run pretty well but not that fast, i wanted to squeeze in a new processor with my budget for upgrading the old pc so thats why i asked, i can only go up to 4000rs(65-75 $) just a few rs up or down :) 
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March 2, 2013 5:40:27 PM

http://hardwire.in/6-amd#/
Miranda, you'll pretty much have to call them up and check if any of the Athlon x3's will be restocked. If they can get you one, it will be that awesome cpu you are looking in that price range.

Ashish's suggestion is good coz in that price range, you can get a pentium g645 which incidently he also has and it's decent for gaming (He's rocking it with a 7750 and I can tell you for sure that in most games he must be getting better performance than me even tho I have an i5 2400 but also a less powerful gpu).

http://hardwire.in/5-processors#/categories-intel

your call.

good luck
-satyam
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March 2, 2013 6:11:11 PM

satyamdubey said:
http://hardwire.in/6-amd#/
Miranda, you'll pretty much have to call them up and check if any of the Athlon x3's will be restocked. If they can get you one, it will be that awesome cpu you are looking in that price range.

Ashish's suggestion is good coz in that price range, you can get a pentium g645 which incidently he also has and it's decent for gaming (He's rocking it with a 7750 and I can tell you for sure that in most games he must be getting better performance than me even tho I have an i5 2400 but also a less powerful gpu).

http://hardwire.in/5-processors#/categories-intel

your call.

good luck
-satyam


but none of intel's processors are supported for my mobo(shown in the website i gave), thats why i was saying, if i could get atleast Intel Celeron G1610 @ 2.60GHz (its just of 50$) then i will be very very happy, its benchmark result is more than g645 and also it is cheaper, currently the problem is i do not know exactly which processors support my mobo(socket is givin AM2+ but what about intel's processors??)

(btw i am firstly going to check for prices in my local shop and if they happen to have way too much price for the GPU, PSU, ram, and processor then i will just order from amazon coz you know the shops in our country the prices are way too high here, in our country we get GPU of 120$ for 160$ lol, also online shops do not charge for shipping if we buy more than somewhat 25$ or something)
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March 2, 2013 6:32:28 PM

Oh no, I did not mean sticking an Intel cpu in an AMD socket which is what you have. Right now with your current mobo you are indeed restricted to AM3 amd cpu's offering the highest upgrades.

Intel and AMD mobo's and cpu's are not cross compatible. That list of AMD cpu's is for your reference. local prices may actualy be less in some cases.
Also check "theitdepot.com". That's a chennai based site and they are like hardwire. Deliver to almost anywhere in the country and you can choose free shiping most of the time (with free shipping you'll have to wait longer)
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March 2, 2013 7:46:05 PM

satyamdubey said:
Oh no, I did not mean sticking an Intel cpu in an AMD socket which is what you have. Right now with your current mobo you are indeed restricted to AM3 amd cpu's offering the highest upgrades.

Intel and AMD mobo's and cpu's are not cross compatible. That list of AMD cpu's is for your reference. local prices may actualy be less in some cases.
Also check "theitdepot.com". That's a chennai based site and they are like hardwire. Deliver to almost anywhere in the country and you can choose free shiping most of the time (with free shipping you'll have to wait longer)


3 of the supported processors i could find on hardwire but they are all out of stock, comparing the price with the only i found on amazon, the difference is like 20$ !!!
following are the one i found:
http://hardwire.in/amd/68-amd-phenom-2-x4-955-black-32-... (has an awesome benchmark!!!!! but the price is slightly high)
http://hardwire.in/amd/14-amd-athlon-ii-x4-640-30-ghz-q...
http://hardwire.in/amd/12-amd-athlon-ii-x3-445-31-ghz-d...
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March 3, 2013 2:26:26 AM

Go with that athlon x4 cpu and really good for gaming.
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March 3, 2013 7:55:54 AM

do remember, that the lack of L3 cache can affect gaming by as much as 20% in some cases. That athlon lacks L3, phenom has plenty. On flipkart it's about 600rs more.
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March 3, 2013 8:08:38 AM

satyamdubey said:
I think you should see a good upgrade from your current cpu going with
http://www.ebay.in/itm/AMD-Processor-Athlon-II-X2-270-3...

http://www.ebay.in/itm/AMD-3-3-GHz-AM3-Phenom-II-560-Pr...

If you can up your budget to 4500, that phenom would be great but that 270 regor would be good too.


their benchmark score is low, can you find from any of the phenom 2 x4 group?? i will think of going up to 5000rs but if it is lower than 4000rs then it will be the best :) 
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March 3, 2013 8:39:14 AM

well you have to stick with a max 95W cpu. there's an x6 currently listed on a bid at 5200...for an x6 that's more than a steal TBH but it is a 125W cpu. Below 5000, x4 are almost impossible to find.

found a gen 1 phenom x3: http://www.ebay.in/itm/New-AMD-Phenom-X3-8550-Triple-Co...

that's 95W. Which benchmarks are you reffering to? Passmark scores?
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March 3, 2013 8:47:06 AM

Well, a Phenom II X4 955 costs about 95$ here in the US, which could approximately be about 5,200 Rupees, but unfortunately for you, electronics in Asia cost a little more than they do in Europe and US. At least that's what I've heard. The Phenom II X4 955 costs a minimum of 6,299 on Ebay.

http://www.ebay.in/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=phenom%20i...

Dude, in my opinion, you should get a Phenom II X4 970 or 980. They perform extremely well in gaming.

You say that you want to use your PC for gaming; which GPU do you have?
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March 3, 2013 9:33:21 AM

Natsu, she has a board which supports maximum 95W cpu's. Most if not all x4's are 125W. 970 and 980 are both 125W.

Miranda, I have been searching for a zosma 960T (95W) but could not locate one. See if there is a chance your local dealer has it.
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March 3, 2013 10:30:40 AM

zosma 960T is not supported by my motherboard since it supports AM3 socket only also it is costly thereitself in US, i could however find phenom ii x4 820 whose price was shown 90$ on newegg, also if i couldn't find the parts in low price in a local store then i'll straightaway order online because the prices are very low there
natsu- i am going to buy HD 7770 with this
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March 3, 2013 11:11:27 AM

^ 960 is AM3. but maybe a BIOS support is not available. Anyway, it will be wise to order online if you get a good price. Let us know what you go for.

good luck
-satyam
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March 3, 2013 12:57:38 PM

ok thanks
btw i have decided that i am ready to go till 6000 to 7000rs just i will buy the processor after one or two months separately, you can suggest me any good one now lol
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March 3, 2013 4:27:41 PM

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Natsu, she has a board which supports maximum 95W cpu's


Acknowledging my mistake. It does support a hndful of 125W phenoms.
http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-p...
It does support the 960 but that is not available. 960T is listed on hardwire but has not been restocked.
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March 3, 2013 6:59:15 PM

oh man thank you very much satyam, i just found out that page and i was looking at some other site for supported processors, i had made a list from those processors benchmarks(for seeing which one has the lowest price) now it looks like i'm gonna have to do it again, and about that 5870 it is way too much priced than this 7770 so i should see other ones, please try to answer it till tomorrow because i am going to purchase it tomorrow from a local store if i get reasonable price
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March 3, 2013 7:28:40 PM

Not suggesting you buy a 5870 (it'll be hard to find one anyway). That legitreview benching has been done with a 5870. The fact that Athlon II x4 640 does not bottle neck a 5870 implies it wont bottleneck the 7770.

You should absolutely get the 7770. the 6850 is a little faster but the performance difference between the two is not worth the extra money.

And remember, all HD cards are supported by AMD overdrive. So that will allow you to overclock your 7770 (It is really easy and reliable to use).
XFX 7770 is available for Rs 8850

And a very important thing that we might have missed and that is, the 7770 will require a 6 pin pcie power connector from your psu(smps). Make sure your psu has that.
It looks like: http://techreport.com/r.x/psus-0907/pcie-connectors.jpg

If your smps does not have it then get a molex to pcie connector from the shop where you plan to purchase everything.
it looks like: http://www.systemagnostic.com/wp-uploads/2013/01/molex_...

Do let us know which smps you have.

good luck
-satyam
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March 3, 2013 8:05:26 PM

i am going to buy a psu too with the gaphics card because i'm going to need it anyway(because i currently have the iball 250w psu also it is not having the pcie connector), i had selected one of the two corsair VS450 and VS550.
Talking about the GPU the 5870 and 6850 aren't worth the money for such a little upgrade in performance, might as well overclock 7770 it does have 2 fans and a low temp already lol
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March 3, 2013 8:09:35 PM

mirandawhelan said:
oh man thank you very much satyam, i just found out that page and i was looking at some other site for supported processors, i had made a list from those processors benchmarks(for seeing which one has the lowest price) now it looks like i'm gonna have to do it again, and about that 5870 it is way too much priced than this 7770 so i should see other ones, please try to answer it till tomorrow because i am going to purchase it tomorrow from a local store if i get reasonable price


The 7770 is nearly 9000-10000 on Ebay. Instead of the 7770, you could get the GTX 560, which is far better than the 7770.

GTX 560 Ti,
http://www.ebay.in/itm/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-560-Ti-OC-1GB...

GTX 560,
http://www.ebay.in/itm/Forsa-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-560-1-G...

The GTX 560 Ti is faster than the GTX 560, but MSI is offering it for about 10,999 while the Forsa is offering GTX 560 for about 11,300. Lol, I find it funny how the faster product is cheaper.

7770;
http://geb.ebay.in/g/ImportHubViewItem?itemid=380471865...

In my opinion, you should get a GTX 560 by shelling out an extra 1000. A GTX 560 outperforms the 7770. What PSU do you have?
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March 3, 2013 8:18:02 PM

Natsu Dragneel said:
The 7770 is nearly 9000-10000 on Ebay. Instead of the 7770, you could get the GTX 560, which is far better than the 7770.

GTX 560 Ti,
http://www.ebay.in/itm/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-560-Ti-OC-1GB...

GTX 560,
http://www.ebay.in/itm/Forsa-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-560-1-G...

The GTX 560 Ti is faster than the GTX 560, but MSI is offering it for about 10,999 while the Forsa is offering GTX 560 for about 11,300. Lol, I find it funny how the faster product is cheaper.

7770;
http://geb.ebay.in/g/ImportHubViewItem?itemid=380471865...

In my opinion, you should get a GTX 560 by shelling out an extra 1000. A GTX 560 outperforms the 7770. What PSU do you have?


*correction GTX 560 ti is better than 7770, but 560 is nearly as same as 7770 so no need to shed more money for that little thing lol
i will tell you guys tomorrow what graphics card i got, i have my dibs on 7770 or 560ti if i see a better price then it'll be one of these two otherwise none of these two lol.
i am going to buy the psu corsair VS450 or VS550
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March 4, 2013 1:09:26 AM

mirandawhelan said:
*correction GTX 560 ti is better than 7770, but 560 is nearly as same as 7770 so no need to shed more money for that little thing lol
i will tell you guys tomorrow what graphics card i got, i have my dibs on 7770 or 560ti if i see a better price then it'll be one of these two otherwise none of these two lol.
i am going to buy the psu corsair VS450 or VS550


A GTX 560 is nearly the same as 7770? Hell no! It's much more faster than the 7770.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=543

http://www.hwcompare.com/11885/geforce-gtx-560-vs-radeo...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750...
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March 4, 2013 4:17:24 AM

oh sorry i was looking at 560 SE, you are right 560 is way more powerful than 7770(7770's benchmark is 2100 something while of 560 it is more than 3000)
i will try 560 ti if possible, now we need to find the processor from the given list under 7000rs and it should be the best one.
hey wait i just happened to look that 7850 is nearly of same price as GTX 560 and also it is better than 560 ti!!
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March 4, 2013 8:42:07 AM

My bad. I'm not familiar with the prices in India. I buy from Newegg, as I'm from the US and indeed the 7850 is faster than a 560 Ti. A few Nvidia cards are overpriced, but Nvidia provides users with better and well optimized drivers. I'm not trying to say that the 7850 is a bad card, but many games tend to support Nvidia over AMD. Anyway, I still suggest you go with the 7850.

By the way, you should get the 2GB version of that card. Battlefield 3 and a few other games when maxed out tend to use over 1.4 Gigs of video memory. Crysis 3 uses over 2GB. Also, you could try getting components from Amazon.com. The 7850 2GB is just 195$. I dunno if it's shipping to India or not, but you could be spending about 2000-3000 less. I built my first rig with a 6870 last year when I was 15; it was splendid.

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-mini-Displayport-PCI-Exp...

The problem is, if you get a cheap CPU; it's going to bottleneck the s*** out of the 7850.
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March 4, 2013 12:29:02 PM

Natsu Dragneel said:
My bad. I'm not familiar with the prices in India. I buy from Newegg, as I'm from the US and indeed the 7850 is faster than a 560 Ti. A few Nvidia cards are overpriced, but Nvidia provides users with better and well optimized drivers. I'm not trying to say that the 7850 is a bad card, but many games tend to support Nvidia over AMD. Anyway, I still suggest you go with the 7850.

By the way, you should get the 2GB version of that card. Battlefield 3 and a few other games when maxed out tend to use over 1.4 Gigs of video memory. Crysis 3 uses over 2GB. Also, you could try getting components from Amazon.com. The 7850 2GB is just 195$. I dunno if it's shipping to India or not, but you could be spending about 2000-3000 less. I built my first rig with a 6870 last year when I was 15; it was splendid.

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-mini-Displayport-PCI-Exp...

The problem is, if you get a cheap CPU; it's going to bottleneck the s*** out of the 7850.


i did check out my local store, and i was surprised to see but they are selling 7850 at 10800, while in indian online store it is not less than 15000!!
but they said they didn't have any of the processor from the list i made(saying that they are old), and suggested me to buy a new motherboard, and i just got out of the store lol, if i wanted to buy a complete new pc why would i be searching for separate parts lol, i think that was a marketing technique
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March 4, 2013 12:46:34 PM

see, I told you that:)  local vendors may have stuff at cheaper price. I know a shop that also sell stuff cheaper than online stores. But it's a bit odd they do not have some old cpu's. Share the list you've made with us.
Will scout for those cpu's.
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March 4, 2013 1:08:53 PM

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(the image resolution was too big so i had to just give the link)
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March 4, 2013 1:28:43 PM

yep list is right but scratch off the 945 it is not supported.
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March 4, 2013 1:34:27 PM

Wow, I didn't know of Hardwire.in. Just out of curiosity, where do you live satyam?
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March 4, 2013 3:59:47 PM

satyamdubey said:
yep list is right but scratch off the 945 it is not supported.

but it is supported as shown in the gigabyte page you gave
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March 4, 2013 4:29:36 PM

^yep... only a 945 with c3 stepping. There are three 945's two are c2 stepping with 125 and 95 Watts and those two are not supported. c3 @ 95W is supported.
Make sure of the stepping if you locate a 945.

apologies for making another mistake. I should probably go to bed :p 
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March 4, 2013 4:58:30 PM

so what to do now? wait for four to five months to build a completely new pc or will i be able to get processor
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March 4, 2013 5:12:04 PM

waiting would be the wisest thing to do. Frustrating to hear that after all this rigmarole, I know.

But you can get combo deals. you can get an FX 6100+M5A78LT for under 11000 I think. those prices will slash so you can actually get a 4300/6300 with a mobo for under 10000 by say mid summers. 4 gb corsair value select will cost around 1300/1400 so you can get a FX 4300+mobo+4 gigs of DDR3 in 11000.

I'd say you wait. I can't suggest someone a cpu below 965 BE when one is buying around all the new tech that's already available. and you cant fit any of those "still good but getting old" cpu's in your current board any way.
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March 4, 2013 5:26:23 PM

satyamdubey said:
waiting would be the wisest thing to do. Frustrating to hear that after all this rigmarole, I know.

But you can get combo deals. you can get an FX 6100+M5A78LT for under 11000 I think. those prices will slash so you can actually get a 4300/6300 with a mobo for under 10000 by say mid summers. 4 gb corsair value select will cost around 1300/1400 so you can get a FX 4300+mobo+4 gigs of DDR3 in 11000.

I'd say you wait. I can't suggest someone a cpu below 965 BE when one is buying around all the new tech that's already available. and you cant fit any of those "still good but getting old" cpu's in your current board any way.


well the main thing for which i wanted to buy it now was gaming(when i go to 2nd year i will probably start research that's why i can't play then), and also i wanted to analyze tons of satellite and my own telescope data(since the data available is best in summer because of less clouds) so, i guess i will just have to wait, thanks for your help anyway
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March 4, 2013 5:47:29 PM

Some Interesting work you do!! :)  well if you can wait for a 6300, then it will be worth it. You can do good loads of data analysis with it. Play games and run SETI@Home kinda cpu intensive BOINC programs. It will all run great.

If you absolutely need a cpu then local vendors are all you have when it comes to good price points. You'll have to run around a bit as you scout for a cpu from your list. I am sure I've seen some athlons from your list in a shop in my city that is why it was a little surprising for me to know that you could not locate cpu's from that list.
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March 4, 2013 5:59:39 PM

hey, why not get an APU, ram and mobo. You were buying a discrete graphics card right? so you can let that be. That'll shave off 10000 directly. and if you want to enhance your gaming, you can always buy a new card later on else have a dual graphics set up with a HD 6670 DDR5 (RS 5600).
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March 4, 2013 6:59:35 PM

i am thinking i should probably wait, because now if i buy something it would be needing to cost like at least 20000(GPU+processor+PSU+ram) to run new games. But after my father accumulate enough money i can easily buy upto 1 lakh(as assured by my father lol), so then it will be the fastest cpu i ever saw(i will probably include xeon and GTX 680 and also liquid cooling and touchscreen controls on cabinet), (but that too comes with a choice because if i go to live in pune then i will not have any chance of having a pc)
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March 4, 2013 10:34:08 PM

Instead of waiting, you could go grab a Phenom II X6 1045T and overclock it.
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March 5, 2013 2:03:47 AM

yeah wait. and there is really no point in getting a pc worth 1 Lac. You'll get a blazing fast machine in 65000-70000. It will OC and will have all most all the bells and whistles. You can grab a Haswell or Steamroller!! well at least Haswell is scheduled for June release. Steamy will take time, 2014 I think.
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March 5, 2013 3:08:11 AM

http://postimage.org/image/4jou331qv/full/
an i5 3570K build. without taxes it's about 68000 and you can subtract about 5% discount that local vendors usually give. That would be another 3400,
So total cost will~65000. for another 5000, you can have the same build with an i7 3770K.
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March 5, 2013 8:49:29 AM

satyamdubey said:
http://postimage.org/image/4jou331qv/full/
an i5 3570K build. without taxes it's about 68000 and you can subtract about 5% discount that local vendors usually give. That would be another 3400,
So total cost will~65000. for another 5000, you can have the same build with an i7 3770K.

The 7870 still can't max out Crysis 3. The asker could throw in another 7870 or just get a 7970. Also, I'd rather use a water cooling kit instead of having a big Air Cooler; it'd look more cooler. The Corsair H60 does a damn fine job at keeping the temps down, however, if the asker should opt for an Air Cooler, then the Hyper 212 Evo would be the better choice.
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March 5, 2013 9:18:52 AM

^very true. Wanted to add the evo but it's not stocked right now so could not drag that into the cart (it's cheaper too) :) . Added the deepcool for realistic overall build cost.

As for maxing out crysis3 running it on very high at 1080p you are right in suggesting a cfx build. But I am mostly targeting a fast machine, which will run almost all games on high with 2xAA and still wont go all the way to ~2000 USD. 2000USD do not translate to same value in Asia sadly. You just pay more for less.
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March 5, 2013 11:17:58 AM

satyamdubey said:
^very true. Wanted to add the evo but it's not stocked right now so could not drag that into the cart (it's cheaper too) :) . Added the deepcool for realistic overall build cost.

As for maxing out crysis3 running it on very high at 1080p you are right in suggesting a cfx build. But I am mostly targeting a fast machine, which will run almost all games on high with 2xAA and still wont go all the way to ~2000 USD. 2000USD do not translate to same value in Asia sadly. You just pay more for less.


Ahaha..Yeah, I realized that. A single 7870 can run BF3 @1080P, Ultra with 4X MSAA while it struggles to run Crysis 3 @Med Settings and maintain over 60 FPS. Crysis 3 is just poorly optimized, is all. Also, if the OP is going to OC the GPU, then a decent VGA cooler would be required.
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March 5, 2013 5:36:41 PM

do not worry i will build the coolest cpu lol, and i was going to include water cooling in that, hey btw tell me that how to make open air motherboard, because it looks a hell lot cooler than the closed one
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