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October 19, 2012 4:01:06 AM

If there was a PC out there that was as small and light as a console, and also at a affordable price, would you buy it?
What would you look for if there was a PC out there like this?
How much would you pay for a system like this?

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October 19, 2012 10:53:23 AM

I wouldn't buy it - I'd build my own mini-ITX rig and it would outperform it for less money.
October 19, 2012 11:10:20 AM

Mmm...if that means I would have to give up my current computer....probably not. I really like my computer(s) for now.

Especially my computer in my 90's beige case :) 
October 19, 2012 11:18:32 AM

Actually, I know of a computer smaller, lighter, and cheaper than a console. It's called a Raspberry Pi. Pity about the lack of processing power though...
October 19, 2012 11:22:09 AM

It probably out does a console though lol :) 
October 19, 2012 10:16:06 PM

noo guys, i'm planning to build it, not buy it... -_-
October 19, 2012 10:24:38 PM

well, how much do you want to spend? do you need to also buy speakers, keyboard, mouse, monitor, and operating system?
October 19, 2012 10:37:16 PM

no just the console with a os and below 500-600
October 20, 2012 1:46:43 AM

ok, under $600 gaming PC with Win 7.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-GL Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex Plus R2 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 330 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $570.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
October 20, 2012 3:28:09 AM

if you want to really go cheap you can go with an amd a10 cpu with mATX board and such and you can get really good preformance for price and if you want more gaming performacne you can crossfire the internal gpu with certain other cards
October 20, 2012 11:20:41 AM

here is a AMD apu build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.82 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex Plus R2 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 6670 1GB Video Card ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 330 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $563.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
October 20, 2012 4:44:41 PM

is there a case smaller than the cooler master 330? Maybe a itx or maybe even smaller?
October 20, 2012 4:59:19 PM

if youw ant smlaler then itx then your goanna want a laptop man, but when it comes to pricing its going to be slightly more due to the screen on the pc. also there is less power overall because they are built to run on those wimpy 3-6 cell batteries
laptops would have more bang for your buck
for example: obviously you can use it as a pc lol!! consoles are built directly for gaming and only gaming, with teh occasional dumbed down web browser and entertainment. consoles run at around
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i saw a laptop of similar specs in a wholesale club for 450 compared to something liek a ps3 it has 3 times as much hard disk space, more functionality, more powerful and at a cost of 150 dollars more, which you cant carry a ps3 around anywhere and use it, plus there is no built in screen on a ps3 is there
October 20, 2012 8:35:11 PM

is there anything that can be paired with the cooler master 120 advanced?
October 21, 2012 2:24:25 AM

whats a coolermaster 120 advanced?
October 21, 2012 3:11:34 AM

firestorm09 said:
is there anything that can be paired with the cooler master 120 advanced?


One of the smallest cases that can fit a full size graphics card is the FT03 mini by silverstone, its almost console like in appearance..
October 21, 2012 3:29:43 PM

You could build something with the A10-5800K in the Antec ISK 300-150, that would be tiny and you should be able to do it with $400 or so if you get a cheap 120GB SSD and 4-8GB of fast RAM. 1866Mhz C9 if possible. If playing at <1440x900, it would be a capable gaming machine. At 1080P you would be looking at medium settings I think.
October 21, 2012 5:39:52 PM

with the a10, should i pair it with another graphics card? Can the a10 alone handle bf3 on high, or should i pair it with something? I'm trying to keep this build under 600,
and the FT03 looks nice but it still looks just a little too big, are there any smaller cases, or perhaps thinner?
October 21, 2012 5:45:57 PM

what resolution are we talking here?
October 21, 2012 5:59:27 PM

You might manage high settings at 1440x900 or less, you won't at 1080P though. You can pair the A10 with the HD 6670 and that runs in dual graphics mode to boost it a bit.
October 21, 2012 6:22:17 PM

it would be 1920 x 1080 Resolution, and i'm just looking for medium to high settings on bf3. would any of the pentium processors with a better gpu do the job without bottlenecking?

October 21, 2012 8:33:27 PM

yes, benchmarks have shown that the pentiums have compared with the fx series, add a 7770 if you can afford it, it will really do well for the price
October 21, 2012 8:37:13 PM

ok i amde this real quick, its not to ur specs ik but it shows a ballpark price and some hardware u should look into http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kZGb
October 22, 2012 12:07:46 AM

Just been looking at a few benchmarks and it looks like the A10 + HD 6670 combo shouldn't have any problems with BF3 on high settings with AA/AF turned off. You can actually get a low profile version of the HD 6670 too, shouldn't take up much space at all. You could fit that setup in some really small cases.
October 22, 2012 1:31:50 AM

how long do you think that setup would last?
October 22, 2012 1:44:49 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/l1Ir
600 dollars!!
core i3 ivy bridge
1tb hdd
radeon hd 7770
8 gb gskill sniper memory
all in a small miniITX tower
you can spend a few extra bucks on the i3 with the 35 watt TPD which would probably be best for a miniITX setup, but there is slight room to upgrade gpu and possibly an i5 in the future for this build

EDIT: you would probably want to get this power supply instead if you wanted to upgrade to an i5 and a 7850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or keep the i3 and get a 7870. either way it will be small and powerful for gaming

SECOND EDIT: it seems as though people are having trouble with the 7850 cards in the specified motherboard, you may want to check that out
October 22, 2012 6:16:22 AM

firestorm09 said:
how long do you think that setup would last?


an A10 + 6670 should manage games at medium settings for 2-3 years, I think.


and teh A10 wil be better st BF3 multiplayer because it has 4 cores
October 22, 2012 5:29:20 PM

Another alternative you could put in something like that tiny Antec case is an i3/HD 7750 setup. You can get low profile HD 7750's.
October 22, 2012 6:32:12 PM

jmsellars1 said:
Another alternative you could put in something like that tiny Antec case is an i3/HD 7750 setup. You can get low profile HD 7750's.


a 7770 would probably still be best for an i3 rig, with only a 15-20 dollar difference you are getting about a 31 percent increase in the 3d mark benchmarks

Tom's Hardware - Benchmark 05 - Aliens vs. Predator DirectX 11 [A] Entry
October 22, 2012 7:39:11 PM

Yeah but the word console suggests he wants something console sized and the HD 7750 has low profile versions.
October 22, 2012 8:07:44 PM

that is true, but many itx solutions support dual slot cards
October 22, 2012 8:20:40 PM

ITX doesn't necessarily mean small though, the Bitfenix Prodigy and Silverstone FT03 are pretty comparable in size but the Silverstone is mATX for example. The Prodigy is pretty big for a mini ITX case.

That Antec case I mentioned is almost console sized however, like one of the larger ones like the original PS3 or original XBOX. There are other cases like that as well, like some Shuttles.
October 24, 2012 1:25:50 AM

shuttles? :o  can you link me please?
October 24, 2012 1:55:15 AM

yea the cooler master 120, that was what i was talking about, the only problem with that is the cooling of it. Btw what are shuttles?
October 24, 2012 1:55:21 AM

a full shuttle i3/8gb ram/64 gb ssd/ radeon 7770 solution would cost your about 680 USD
October 24, 2012 2:12:31 AM

can u link me to a shuttle?
October 24, 2012 5:57:55 PM

Shuttle is a brand of barebones PC systems. The motherboard and PSU come integrated into the case so they can usually make them smaller. I'm looking around and can't see many these days.

EDIT: Sometimes things like CPU and RAM are integrated already too.

Here's one though, not tiny but quite small.

http://www.amazon.com/SHUTTLE-SH67H3-PC-Barebone-System...
October 24, 2012 7:08:58 PM

depending on where you want to put it is a big factor of what size and shape you should get. when you look at your tv in your media room, is your tv on a stand, recessed in the wall or mounted on to the wall? where are your other components such as your tv box, or dvd/blue ray player and stereo system?
October 24, 2012 10:09:11 PM

basically i want it shaped like the alienware x51
October 25, 2012 1:58:07 AM

here are a few small cases that might fit where you are going:

this will take a full-size gpu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This one is slimline, so only a half-high card will fit, bu it comes with a matching keyboard and mouse. Xion is 2d-3rd class when it come to power supplies. However what's in there should hand an A10+6670
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

NMediaPC makes a variety of cases that look like VCRs/DVD Players/Receivers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
October 26, 2012 3:53:26 AM

thanks a lot screwsqrl, those are really good suggestions what kind of size are the motherboards supposed to be?
October 26, 2012 11:40:41 AM

all of them can take MicroATX or MiniITX.
October 26, 2012 5:32:28 PM

This would be my choice for a slim console-like gaming machine. Great performance for the price/size. It should be a lot better than the A10/HD 6670 combo, especially in GPU bound games. (That is most games)

Intel Pentium G850 - $69.99 (I'd upgrade this to an Ivy Bridge model if you can)
2x2GB G.Skill VS 1333Mhz 1.5v - $19.99 (8GB/1600Mhz/Low voltage wouldn't hurt if you can afford it.)
ASRock B75M-ITX - $89.99
120GB Mushkin Enhanced Chronos - $84.99
Sapphire HD 7750 1GB Low Profile - $114.99
Antec ISK 300-150 with 150W PSU - $89.99
Samsung Slim Internal DVD Burner - $23.99

Total - $493.93

If you can afford a $600 system, I'd get an Ivy Bridge CPU with 8GB of 1600Mhz RAM.

Some will probably say the PSU is cutting it a bit fine but I've seen guys in forums run this setup with a HD 6670 and a mechanical HDD, both of which would make the power consumption higher than this build.

Power consumption while gaming will probably get around the 100W mark, maybe 120W in a synthetic stress test.

EDIT: Also, if you can go with Ivy Bridge, that shaves off another 10W. You could shave of 30W if you went for the i3-2100T.
October 26, 2012 10:14:03 PM

cjcj11 said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/l1Ir
600 dollars!!
core i3 ivy bridge
1tb hdd
radeon hd 7770
8 gb gskill sniper memory
all in a small miniITX tower
you can spend a few extra bucks on the i3 with the 35 watt TPD which would probably be best for a miniITX setup, but there is slight room to upgrade gpu and possibly an i5 in the future for this build

EDIT: you would probably want to get this power supply instead if you wanted to upgrade to an i5 and a 7850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or keep the i3 and get a 7870. either way it will be small and powerful for gaming

SECOND EDIT: it seems as though people are having trouble with the 7850 cards in the specified motherboard, you may want to check that out


I like this build but useless aftermaket cpu cooler and switch that psu to a corsair 430w psu
October 26, 2012 10:57:16 PM

The cooler is there for quietness I think. Worth it in my opinion.
October 26, 2012 10:59:45 PM

why is everything so expensive D: I'm going to be using it for like gaming only. So is there anyway we can cut the hdd a little? because 600 is a lot :(  Someway to get it down to 400?
October 26, 2012 11:03:35 PM

I think you're going to struggle to build something small for that kind of money. A mATX tower with something like a Pentium G620 and HD 6770 and 4GB RAM with a cheap hard drive might work.

Actually it depends what resolution you're playing at as well, I'm assuming 1920x1080 at the moment. If you're playing at 1366x768 or something, the A10 on its own without a GPU is fine.
October 26, 2012 11:53:47 PM

i wonder how the hell consoles pull it off :/ 
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