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Advice on the new system around 1000$

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October 19, 2012 7:44:48 AM

First of all, i apologize for double posting in two days apart, but i had to change my plans and probably going to buy the new computer tomorrow. So i thought i should ask for your help one last time.

Approximate Purchase Date: Probably tomorrow, at worst next thursday.

Budget Range: around 1000 - 1500$

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Engineering programming ( catia, ansys, matlab vs), surfing, watching videos

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: everything since i'm building from scratch

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:http://www.novabilgisayar.com/pc.asp, http://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/
i know these are in turkish so sorry about the incovenience.

Location: Ankara/Turkey

Parts Preferences: I'm an intel user, but i'm willing to change it

Overclocking: Maybe - i haven't done any overclocking so far, but if the gains are too many, i might learn.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe same with overclocking.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050 right now, but i want to upgrade to a monitor with 1920x1080, 120 hz refresh rate,

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My 5 year old system starts to have some troubles mostly in everything. So i've decided to build a new one and format and give my old one to my brother or mother. And i want this new system to last at least 4 or 5 years minimum.

so Here it goes:

Cpu:
INTEL i5 3550 3.30 GHz Quad Core Socket 1155 6MB, 22nm, 77W
http://www.novabilgisayar.com/bilgi.asp?ID=8316

Mobo:
http://www.novabilgisayar.com/bilgi.asp?ID=8474

Gpu:
SAPPHIRE HD7950 OC 3 GB, PCIExp, DirectX 11, DDR5, 384 bit, 950/5000 (11196-10-40G)
http://www.novabilgisayar.com/bilgi.asp?ID=8517

Ram:
GSKILL 8GB (2x4GB) RipjawsX DDR3 1600MHz CL9 1.5V Dual Kit Ram
http://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/Ram/gskill-f3-12800cl9d-...(2x4gb)-ripjawsx-ddr3-1600mhz-cl9-15v-dual-kit-ram/productdetails.aspx?I_ID=51959

HDD:
WESTERN DIGITAL 1 TB SATA III HDD 64MB Caviar Green 6GB/s WD10EZRX
http://www.novabilgisayar.com/bilgi.asp?ID=4450

SSD:
CORSAIR 120GB F120 Force Serisi SATA III SSD CSSD-F120GB3-BK
http://www.novabilgisayar.com/bilgi.asp?ID=7535

Case:
IN WIN Dragon Slayer GAMING (2x 14cm Fan + 9cm Fan + USB 3) Micro ATX
http://www.novabilgisayar.com/bilgi.asp?ID=6579

PSU:
THERMALTAKE TR2 POWER 80PLUS 600W
http://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/Güç%20Kaynağı/thermaltake-tr-600pceu-tr2-power-80plus-600w-guc-kagnagi/productdetails.aspx?I_ID=53675


Again i'm sorry about the turkish sites, since i don't know if i can order single computer parts from newegg or amazon, i'm stuck with these two.

Again, sorry for double posting and since my bugdet is very limited - i'm not making much money right now.. :(  - i wanted to be sure about the system that i'm gonna buy.

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October 19, 2012 7:58:14 AM

The TR2 is not really a reliable power supply.

I would have to recommend a unit from Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, PC Power & Cooling and some other good ones.

A good 600W or 650W should do if you don't plan to Crossfire.
October 19, 2012 8:52:48 AM

Deemo13 said:
The TR2 is not really a reliable power supply.

I would have to recommend a unit from Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, PC Power & Cooling and some other good ones.

A good 600W or 650W should do if you don't plan to Crossfire.



so how's CORSAIR GAMING 80 PLUS 600W ? or SilverStone Strider Essential 600W 80+ ?
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October 19, 2012 9:04:08 AM

Both are good. Other brands to add to list are be-Quiet! and XFX.

You don't need a Z77 board if not OCing or CF/SLI.

OCZ Vertex 4 and Samsung 830 are faster SSDs

I'd suggest low profile RAM eg G.Skill Ares or Corsair Vengeance LP
October 19, 2012 10:41:50 AM

yes i doubt i'm gonna oc or cf.

is GIGABYTE Z77M-D3H, Z77, DDR3 a good replacement for z77?

I've red some bad reviews about ocz vertex series, how is vertex 3? 4 is just too expensive for me right now.
October 19, 2012 10:51:01 AM

The vertex 3 series had a few reliability issues IIRC. What about the Samsung 830? It's pretty fast and the successor to one of the most reliable SSDs - the 470.
October 19, 2012 11:02:28 AM

The Samsung 830 would be my recommendation.
October 19, 2012 11:06:14 AM

i don't think i can find samsung ssd's in turkey. i haven't seen in any retailer so far. How about corsairs? i think i can find a CORSAIR 120GB SATA 3.0.

i can't ask around now but i'm positive i can find a vertex 4 also. need to have some calls tho.

And i'm a bit sceptical about ssds. is it worth buying? they're seem too expensive

and my last mobo question was stupid, i meant is GIGABYTE Z77M-D3H a good replacement for asrock extreme 4. i know both of them are z77, but gigabyte is the cheapest i can get right now.
October 19, 2012 11:09:09 AM

Personally, I don't think they are worth it, but that might be because I've never had one...or I wouldn't see a difference in boot times because I always have my computer on.

Alot of people though do see really large differences in performance with a SSD.

And the Gigabyte would be fine.
October 19, 2012 11:16:56 AM

Unless you want to OC or SLI/CF you don't need a Z77 board. Micro-ATX boards stifle the GPUs if you use two of them, and that CPU can't be OCed. Get a B75 or H77 board.
October 19, 2012 12:01:11 PM

do overclocking make noticable difference in performance? i've never oc'd so far but back then there was a danger of overloading and killing the cpus. i'm guessing that rarely happens these days. If it is worth it, i might change my cpu to 3570k.

But i'm guessing without overclocking, it is just a waste of time buying 3570k instead of 3550 or 3470?
between 3470 and 3550 there is 9$ difference so 3550 is better to get it seems.
October 19, 2012 12:05:58 PM

Without OCing just get a cheap IB i5. You don't need the 3570K.

I suggest getting a cheap B75 or H77 mobo. It'll save you a lot, up to $50 compared to the Z77 Extreme4. That should be enough to cross over the line between can & can't afford SSD.
October 19, 2012 12:50:26 PM

so how's GIGABYTE GA-B75M-D3V Intel B75 Soket 1155 DDR3 1600MHz for a mobo?

or a GIGABYTE GA-H77M-D3H Intel H77 Soket 1155 DDR3 1600MHz ?
October 19, 2012 12:54:48 PM

Personally I'd be looking at one with four RAM slots, though it's not exactly necessary. The sight of a parallel port on a modern mobo gives me the shudders though...

EDIT: #2 is good. Enough USB ports on rear panel - hard to find any with more than 6. USB 3.0 header and 6x SATA is good.
October 19, 2012 1:00:03 PM

:D  those 2 are the only ones i can find so far. so i guess i'll have to stick with a z77 mobo.

Hmm while at it, should i get a 3570k hmm
October 19, 2012 1:03:26 PM

If you get a 3570k you really want the Extreme4 or you can't OC much.

Sort by lowest price helps with finding cheap mobos. Unless you're OCing/SLI/CF you can pretty much tick features off eg yes it has 6+ USB ports on back... Yes it has an internal USB3.0 header... etc.
October 19, 2012 1:38:03 PM

so i'm getting GIGABYTE GA-H77M-D3H Intel H77 Soket 1155 DDR3 1600MHz and OCZ vertex 4 ssd.

Rest of the build seems ok yes?

Also thank you all for your help so far.

a quick edit: vertex 4 seems out of stock right now.. is it hard to install? i've never assembled my build - besides rams but that is easier than assembling a lego tbh - so i'm ingorant about this
October 19, 2012 6:08:41 PM

It all looks fine. Building a computer is really not that hard; there are lot of guides on the internet.
October 20, 2012 8:32:56 AM

So another last minute question,
Initially, i picked SAPPHIRE HD7950 OC 3 GB, PCIExp, DirectX 11, DDR5, 384 bit, 950/5000 (11196-10-40G) for 355$

but now i'm thinking is it worth buying over GIGABYTE GTX660 OC Windforce 2x, 2048 MB, PCIExp, GDDR5, 192 bit, 1033/6008 Mhz which is 255$

right now i'm playing at 1680 x 1050 resolution but i'm thinking of buying a full hd monitor next month.

so what do you think? that 100$ difference will change much in gaming and engineering programming ( catia, autocad, ansys vs) wise?

October 20, 2012 8:39:08 AM

If you want to spend less get a 7870. It destroys the 660, and doesn't cost a lot more.
October 22, 2012 8:31:23 AM

Amen.
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