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Need Advice 1300 Gaming Rig

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October 19, 2012 4:22:39 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: Nov 15th

Budget Range: (e.g.: 1200-1300) After Rebates;

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: ALL

Do you need to buy OS: Yes / No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, Microcenter
Location: Kansas City, KS, US

Parts Preferences: NVIDEA INTEL

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200

Thanks in advance for all your help!

Im looking to build a PC and get the parts while im in the States
12-1300ish im flexable if quality is good... This is what i have so far...

Mother Board: SABERTOOTH_Z77_LGA_1155_Z77_ATX_Intel_Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/product/388088/SABERTOOTH_Z7...

CPU: Core_i5_3570K
http://www.microcenter.com/product/388577/Core_i5_3570K...

GPU: ??? $400ish EVGA 670 2 or 4GB? Not to sure on this one there are so many choices so many vendors etc... would like to run skyrim with all hd packs and have room for the next couple of years
http://www.microcenter.com/product/396579/02G-P4-2676-K...

HDD:Barracuda_EP_3TB_7,200RPM_SATA_60Gbps_35_Internal_Hard_Drive
http://www.microcenter.com/product/373127/Barracuda_EP_...

SSD: Samsung 128gb
http://www.microcenter.com/product/385837/830_Series_MZ...(SSD)_with_3-core_MCX_Controller

Memory:???

Case: will purchase overseas Israel

Power:??? not sure how this works will purchase here in Israel it not 120 here its 240 differnt power than US

CPU fan:???

Let me know if I am missing anything please... i7 cpu or this i5 is good enough? Nvidea 670 series which one? FTW? Superclocked? 2GB 4GB?

Thanks!
Oz

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October 19, 2012 4:41:31 PM

1) The Sabertooth is overkill and priced high. You'd be better off with an ASRock Extreme 4 or 6.
2) Get the 670 2GB.
3) Microcenter has overpriced HDD's. I would get them from Amazon instead.
4) For the memory, get an 8GB 1600MHz kit.
5) Microcenter has some cheap cases. I would consider getting from them.
6) For your cooler, I would get the Hyper 212 EVO.
October 19, 2012 4:42:11 PM

The i5 is good enough. The i7 isnt better for gaming and gives the same FPS as the i5.
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October 19, 2012 4:57:36 PM

obsama1 said:
1) The Sabertooth is overkill and priced high. You'd be better off with an ASRock Extreme 4 or 6.
2) Get the 670 2GB.
3) Microcenter has overpriced HDD's. I would get them from Amazon instead.
4) For the memory, get an 8GB 1600MHz kit.
5) Microcenter has some cheap cases. I would consider getting from them.
6) For your cooler, I would get the Hyper 212 EVO.




Thanks ill check... There is a $50 off motherboard with purchase of CPU at micro center so that mother board would be 189. Does that make a difference?
October 19, 2012 11:08:37 PM

Id say get a GTx 660 ti, the Power edition from MSI oc'd is pretty much as powerfull as a gtx 670 and its 100$ less.

Get some good 1600mhz or higher memory with a CAS of 9 or 10

Most Power supply will work on either and the good ones which are from quality brands have active PFC which automatically switches to the voltage coming in. id recommend 600 watts and Above as a minimum if you ever decide to expand your system.

(Good suppliers are Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, PC Power and Cooling, and a few others i cant think of off the top of my head)

for the most part that would build a solid system, hope i helped!
October 20, 2012 12:14:52 AM

The Sabertooth for $190 isn't bad. But consider this: Will you use all the features of the Sabertooth? Do you really need them? If yes, then go for it. If not, then get a mobo like the ASRock Extreme 6.

Also, at the suggestion above, generally, for an 8GB kit, you want to stick with CAS 9. Most good 8GB kits are CAS 9. Also, I would rather get the 7950 instead of the 660Ti. The 7950 overclocks a lot higher than the 660Ti.
October 20, 2012 4:05:36 AM

Yeah, the 7950 would be a better buy for the reasons stated above.
Also, the 660 Ti Power Edition is dangerous.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/MSI-GTX-660-670-overvo...

The Sabertooth's 'armor' actually adds up to heat btw.
And with the $50 discount promo, the Extreme6 goes down to ~$120?

If you really want ASUS, then get the P8Z77-V PRO, it's basically the same thing.
October 20, 2012 4:49:36 AM

obsama1 said:
The Sabertooth for $190 isn't bad. But consider this: Will you use all the features of the Sabertooth? Do you really need them? If yes, then go for it. If not, then get a mobo like the ASRock Extreme 6.

Also, at the suggestion above, generally, for an 8GB kit, you want to stick with CAS 9. Most good 8GB kits are CAS 9. Also, I would rather get the 7950 instead of the 660Ti. The 7950 overclocks a lot higher than the 660Ti.



@excella1221 Didint know that about the 660 Ti thank for the info, do you think the cards being sold today are the same ?

As for the RAM 1600mhz with a Cas of 9 is obvious but i meant i he went to i higher mhz ram say 2133mhz,ect... then a CAS of 10 would be more acceptable, guess i didn't word that correctly.
October 20, 2012 5:36:31 AM

7950 isn't limited in its memory bus like the 660ti is.
October 20, 2012 12:03:19 PM

Ok now I am really confused regarding free ATI cards vs the Nvidea. I was initially going to get like a 3-4 gb FTW 670. Is this radeon card new I have not heard if it at all. What's the difference??? Is the resale on this card good??? Is this a new card?

Also what about the configurations with the extreme board with memory CPU and hdd and ssd thoughts. Any conflicts?
October 20, 2012 12:47:16 PM

3-4GB is overkill if you're playing at 1920x1200. It was released during the first laf of 2012. The difference is that it is more powerful. And the memory bus is bigger. So, if you want to play with AA and AF, a bigger memory bus is important. And if you plan on overclocking, the 7950 overclocks a lot higher than the 660Ti.
October 20, 2012 4:24:11 PM

obsama1 said:
3-4GB is overkill if you're playing at 1920x1200. It was released during the first laf of 2012. The difference is that it is more powerful. And the memory bus is bigger. So, if you want to play with AA and AF, a bigger memory bus is important. And if you plan on overclocking, the 7950 overclocks a lot higher than the 660Ti.


It should be but im not sure the memory bus is that limiting, as with a bunch of the benches ive seen and games played the bus doesent hamper the 660TI to much imo, the one thing the 660 ti does have the edge on is power consumption, which for me means being able to buy a more efficient power supply for the watt/price and SLI two cards, that said the 7950 should beat the 660ti with OC ect...
October 20, 2012 4:26:16 PM

excella1221 said:
Sadly, yes. MSI didn't want to admit their cheating.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-gpu-GTX-660-Ti-670...


i did some digging and heard they were going to stop pushing it up so high by the end of the month (which month i dont know) but i think im still going to by it next month *fingers crossed*
October 20, 2012 4:28:35 PM

670?
October 20, 2012 4:45:09 PM

What about the 670? The 660ti is mentioned a lot the 670 has 256bit
October 20, 2012 6:57:44 PM

ozes said:
What about the 670? The 660ti is mentioned a lot the 670 has 256bit


670's are good but price vs performance is less overall as a 660ti or 7950 Oc'd matches or on the 7950 in some cases will almost beat the 670 while being cheaper, the best card will ultimately come down to your preference, but in this price range what you get will play/do (on high to ultra at mid to high res) what you want it to for some time to come, but a 670 would still be a solid choice just make sure you have a good PSU that can support 670/7950 plus what you may want to add to your system in the future.

just to add it in the 7970 is around the same price range as a 670 depending on where/manufacturer, but they both trade blows when it comes to different res/games, this generation of cards are really equal for the most part,so whatever floats your boat be it AMD or Nvidia you should be fine!
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