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GTX 660 Ti Faster than Radeon HD 7950!!!

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August 25, 2012 3:03:29 PM

An overclocked 660ti is faster than a stock 7950 at any resolution 1920x1080 or lower. An overclocked 7950 will of course be faster than an overclocked 660ti.
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August 25, 2012 3:10:24 PM

BigMack70 said:
An overclocked 660ti is faster than a stock 7950 at any resolution 1920x1080 or lower. An overclocked 7950 will of course be faster than an overclocked 660ti.

What about an OC models like Asus direct cu ii gtx 660 ti top card or msi power edition?

Would you choose a radeon 7870 or gtx 660 ti?

Which one will do better in 1920x1080p gaming and games like assassins creed, Max Payne 3, Call of Duty, Batman, BF3, etc.
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August 25, 2012 3:15:42 PM

For a single card at 1080p or lower resolution, one of the overclocked 660ti cards is a nice deal. I wouldn't crossfire the 660ti (memory bus will eventually limit that setup), and its performance drops off horribly at 2560x1600 or higher resolution, but for 1080p or below, it's actually a nice card if you can get an overclocked variant for $300.




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August 25, 2012 3:19:37 PM

BigMack70 said:
For a single card at 1080p or lower resolution, one of the overclocked 660ti cards is a nice deal. I wouldn't crossfire the 660ti (memory bus will eventually limit that setup), and its performance drops off horribly at 2560x1600 or higher resolution, but for 1080p or below, it's actually a nice card if you can get an overclocked variant for $300.

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power_Edition/images/perfrel_1920.gif
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power_Edition/images/maxpayne3_1920_1200.gif
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power_Edition/images/bf3_1920_1200.gif
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power_Edition/images/arkhamcity_1920_1200.gif

No sli? Why not?
If there is no good sli then i wont buy it!
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August 25, 2012 3:26:01 PM

Short answer: 660ti is overkill for a 1080p setup currently, and at higher resolutions the 660ti does not perform well, so 660ti SLI is a setup that really doesn't make sense for anything.

My conclusion: There's no point in buying 660ti SLI right now, and by the time you actually need the GPU power of two 660ti cards for 1080p resolution, the memory bus limitation (which is what kills >1080p performance) will also hurt 1080p performance.
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August 25, 2012 5:52:45 PM

BigMack70 said:
Short answer: 660ti is overkill for a 1080p setup currently, and at higher resolutions the 660ti does not perform well, so 660ti SLI is a setup that really doesn't make sense for anything.

My conclusion: There's no point in buying 660ti SLI right now, and by the time you actually need the GPU power of two 660ti cards for 1080p resolution, the memory bus limitation (which is what kills >1080p performance) will also hurt 1080p performance.

I will ONLY be gaming at 1080p single monitor but in the future i may sli, wont the narrower memory bus limit the anti-aliasing? stuff like 4xMSAA, TXAA etc?
Overall would you choose a R7870 or gtx 660 ti?
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August 25, 2012 6:00:36 PM

I would chose a 7950. It's pretty much the same price as the 660ti, it's faster than a stock 660ti, it overclocks WAY better (40% overclocks are not uncommon on custom cards), and it doesn't have a crippled memory bus that will hurt it at high resolutions and in future games with heavy AA etc...

There's a TON of 7950 options at the $300 price point - I see no reason to get the 7870 or 660ti instead if your budget can make it up to this mark:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If it were me, I'd snag that MSI Twin Frozr version (4th link)
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August 25, 2012 6:03:36 PM

timarp000 said:
I will ONLY be gaming at 1080p single monitor but in the future i may sli, wont the narrower memory bus limit the anti-aliasing? stuff like 4xMSAA, TXAA etc?
Overall would you choose a R7870 or gtx 660 ti?


thats more or less the problem. bus size is what heavily affects anti aliasing, which makes the 7950(slightly above it) a better overall card in general, even if the 660ti gains advantage primarily on nvidia based games(the reason why nvidia nerfed the buss because its essentially a 670 with the bus and rop cut down. limiting the bus size was just so the 670 would still be a viable product to sell, if they made the 660ti too good, most users would never think about about buying a 670 or 680, which was one of the main flaws on how nvidia decided to go about designing the 600 cards, as each one so far is just the cut down of the one above it, while amd usually has a slight modification on the board for each 7x00 series, hence the different code names(tahiti 7900, picairn 7800, and cape verde 7700 which was organized so that it would be hard for a different family to surpass the latter one)
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August 25, 2012 6:05:05 PM

your are better off using the best single card you can afford over any sli or crossfire setups because by the time you need the power of your dual cards
there will better and faster GPUs to buy
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August 25, 2012 6:16:47 PM

7950.
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August 25, 2012 6:24:45 PM

BigMack70 said:
I would chose a 7950. It's pretty much the same price as the 660ti, it's faster than a stock 660ti, it overclocks WAY better (40% overclocks are not uncommon on custom cards), and it doesn't have a crippled memory bus that will hurt it at high resolutions and in future games with heavy AA etc...

There's a TON of 7950 options at the $300 price point - I see no reason to get the 7870 or 660ti instead if your budget can make it up to this mark:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If it were me, I'd snag that MSI Twin Frozr version (4th link)

the question is gtx 660 ti ot R7870 not 7950, i live in india and the 7950 is Rs.30000 Which is 600$! Hopefully due to recent price cuts the card will come down in price but for now, gtx 660ti or R7870 @1920x1080 with GOOD anti-aliasing
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August 25, 2012 6:29:38 PM

:(  People always leave information like that out when they ask...

Anyways, the 660ti performs better than the 7870, even at higher resolutions and with AA. It's just a stronger GPU.

If the 7870 is cheaper, it's what I'd get. If they're the same price, I'd get the 660ti. I do think it's silly to plan to SLI the 660ti, however, so I'd say just change your plans to an upgrade in a year or two rather than adding a second card.
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August 25, 2012 8:54:13 PM

BigMack70 said:
:(  People always leave information like that out when they ask...

Anyways, the 660ti performs better than the 7870, even at higher resolutions and with AA. It's just a stronger GPU.

If the 7870 is cheaper, it's what I'd get. If they're the same price, I'd get the 660ti. I do think it's silly to plan to SLI the 660ti, however, so I'd say just change your plans to an upgrade in a year or two rather than adding a second card.

What are you talking about he obviously just said 2 cards to chose from and you guys brought to the 7950....
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August 26, 2012 7:29:12 AM

axsmith234 said:
What are you talking about he obviously just said 2 cards to chose from and you guys brought to the 7950....

Which card would you choose? R7870 or gtx 660ti?
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August 26, 2012 10:05:25 AM

timarp000 said:
Which card would you choose? R7870 or gtx 660ti?

I am in the same boat as you man.....=/
I'm in no position to give advice but if I had to I would take the R7870 because in my case I am trying to go for 3 screens and from research I have gathered that the gtx 660ti's low bus rate which really tanks it's fps past 1920x1024... soooo overall,

I would get the R7870 because

1. The GTX 660ti has a low bus rate which decreases the amount of memory it can receive at once, therefore I think it will hurt its frame rate at high resolutions
2. The GTX 660ti Costs more money =)
3. The GTX 660ti Runs hotter
4. The GTX 660ti Requires more power
5. The GTX 660ti is bad for SLI-ing
6. The GTX 660ti Doesn't overclock as well as the 7870
7. I think I like eyefinity more then surround from what i've heard around the net
8. The 7870 will overclock to the performance of a 7950 people say
9. Also reviewers are saying that the GTX 660ti Tanks terriblly when AA is enable but works fine with TXAA or some proprietary Nvidia thing which is only for some games
10. Also I don't really see the point in buying a 300 dollar video card to play a frigging video game....IT'S JUST A GAME! That extra 70 dollars could be spent in alot of other places....Non of this stuff is even that important! $250 is my cut off for one piece of hardware.... but that's just me

umm ill come back and edit if i find anymore....


.I'm really close to buying the R7870 though right now =/ just a few more days of research.
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August 26, 2012 10:11:49 AM

axsmith234 said:
I am in the same boat as you man.....=/
I'm in no position to give advice but if I had to I would take the R7870 because in my case I am trying to go for 3 screens and from research I have gathered that the gtx 660ti's low bus rate which really tanks it's fps past 1920x1024... soooo overall,

I would get the R7870 because

1. The GTX 660ti has a low bus rate which decreases the amount of memory it can receive at once, therefore I think it will hurt its frame rate at high resolutions
2. The GTX 660ti Costs more money =)
3. The GTX 660ti Runs hotter
4. The GTX 660ti Requires more power
5. The GTX 660ti is bad for SLI-ing
6. The GTX 660ti Doesn't overclock as well as the 7870
7. I think I like eyefinity more then surround from what i've heard around the net
8. The 7870 will overclock to the performance of a 7950 people say
9. Also reviewers are saying that the GTX 660ti Tanks terriblly when AA is enable but works fine with TXAA or some proprietary Nvidia thing which is only for some games

umm ill come back and edit if i find anymore....


.I'm really close to buying the R7870 though right now =/ just a few more days of research.

ya, i heard is does not handle AA well, which is what i want. and because the 7870 is cheaper, i might as well go with that.
i'll choose the mdi hawk or asus dcii
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August 26, 2012 10:55:25 AM

Yea I am thinking about getting the diamond reference card design because my case is acrylic so i need all the air to exit through the back and not disperse in my case =/
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August 26, 2012 11:11:40 AM


OK everyone, Im getting the 7870 as it is much cheaper in india!
Thanks! :D 
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August 26, 2012 11:12:26 AM

Best answer selected by timarp000.
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August 26, 2012 11:53:49 AM

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