Best CPU to Pare with a GTX660Ti

[wackeyz]

So after posting on my ohter thread i found out that my GTX660Ti wasnt performing well becuase my Athlon x4 640 was bottlenecking. In the next two weeks i would like to Upgrade my Mobo and Processor to Something that i will be able to to get the Full potential out of my Card at the Moment i am Looking at :

Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 Socket AM3+ 7.1 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard

AMD Bulldozer FX-6 6200 Black Edition 3.8GHz Socket AM3+ 8MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor

Any suggestions i am open to Intel suggestions if the price is kept below 250 Pounds .

Thanks

 

[fpoon]

Asrock Z77 Extreme4
and
i5-3450

Note that you cannot overclock. If you want that, you will have to pay an extra 30 pounds.

The mobo+CPU I gave you will perform better than the FX-6200. Why? The extra cores on the 6200 bottleneck it.

 

[wackeyz]

Any Other Suggestions? Also being a Noob how would more Cores Bottleneck it?

 

[gamerkila57]

BIOSTAR B75MU3+ LGA 1155 Intel B75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138357

and

Intel Core i5-3470 Ivy Bridge
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115234

or

GIGABYTE GA-970A-D3 AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128521

and

AMD FX-8120 Zambezi
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103961

also the FX 6200 isn't worth the extra money over a FX 6100

Edit: @Fpoon what you said doesn't make any sense how can the extra cores bottleneck it

 

[fpoon]

Any Other Suggestions? Also being a Noob how would more Cores Bottleneck it?

Games only use up to 4 cores, so the extra 2 cores are a bit of nuisance.

 

[gamerkila57]

what games do you play

 

[Maher90]

Fpoon,Extra cores won't hurt him on what earth EXTRA CORES BOTTLENECK?! but still FX 6100 is best for ATi's so if you want a good CPU get any intel starting from i5 3450 and up oh and the 3450 will do fine but if you want more CPU power,get the 3470

 

[trogdor796]

It's not that the extra cores will bottleneck, but like it was mentioned, games use only 2 cores, occasionally 4. So the fx 6100's 6 cores will never be used. And performance per core is worse with the fx series when compared to intel ivy bridge processors. Even an i3 would outperform that fx6100.

 

[Maher90]

that's what i was saying -_- but still extra cores will give like 5% boost to the other 4 cores

 

[ojas]

Yeah...cores wont bottleneck anything, they just won't be used. Also, for gaming (and most of the other things too really), intel is on top right now, so switch to an ivy bridge i5 and you're pretty much good.

 

[pevkovic]

1) You can go lower budget overclocking with AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition paired with GIGABYTE GA-970A-D3. This is the only AMD route that is worth it imho.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128521

2) Or if u are a non overclocker u can go with i3-2120 and a GIGABYTE GA-Z77-DS3H. 2120 cant be overclocked and thats its only downside.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115077
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128547

3) And if u are willing to pay more my choice would be a i5-3570K with the same mobo as the 2120. GIGABYTE GA-Z77-DS3H.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

Option 1) shouldnt cost u more than 150 pounds while being faster than option 2) if option 1 is overclocked. The i3-2120 pair shouldnt cost more than 180 pounds. Option 3) is significantly more expensive however it is a great choice cause the performance u can achieve is far greater than the other 2 for about 260 pounds. 3570K is a great overclocker also.

Note that all the prices mentioned are not in US dollars. I suppose that was what u were asking for.

 

[Wisecracker]

What is your current motherboard and gaming resolution?

Have you OC'ed your 640? What is your memory and speed?

It makes no sense whatsoever to spend £250 for 10-15% increased in frames.

 

[wackeyz]

Right Now i Only have an Asrock N8 S3 with 8GB Ripjwas @ 1600Mhz and no my 640 isnt overclocked surely ill get more a 15% icrease i only get 30 FPS with everything maxed on Guild Wars 2 when im sure i should be getting 60 FPS Atleast, also i get aroud 40Fps on Just Cause 2 when i should get 60 Plus

 

[wackeyz]

My Main question though will i have a significant increase of the Graphics card by upgrading my Mobo to the Asrock 970 and a Bulldozer from my AMD 640?

 

[gamerkila57]

yes but if you get the Bulldozer i highly recommend overclocking it ?

 

[wackeyz]

yes but if you get the Bulldozer i highly recommend overclocking it ?[/quotems

so even after buying the Bulldozer you reckon i will still get the Bottleneck or are you talking overlcocking in general?

 

[wackeyz]

I can only find the DDR2 version of your motherboard.

What is your gaming resolution?

1920X1080

 

[Wisecracker]

I can only find the DDR2 version of your motherboard.

What is your gaming resolution?

 

[gamerkila57]

yes but if you get the Bulldozer i highly recommend overclocking it ?[/quotems

so even after buying the Bulldozer you reckon i will still get the Bottleneck or are you talking overlcocking in general?

no it won't bottleneck but to get the most out of a bulldozer you have to oc it ?

 

[mousseng]

To set the record straight, the reason Bulldozer procs underperform compared to Sandy/Ivy Bridge procs is because of how the "cores" are utilized:

Bulldozer puts two cores into a module (eg, the 6-core FX-6200 has 3 modules) where the individual cores share resources (L2 cache, floating point units, front-end, etc) that would normally NOT be shared. Having two cores instead of one drawing from the same critical resource pool handicaps each core's individual performance.

That said, unless you really enjoy overclocking and tweaking your CPU, you will be much better off with an i5 than any FX processor.

My Main question though will i have a significant increase of the Graphics card by upgrading my Mobo to the Asrock 970 and a Bulldozer from my AMD 640?

Probably - that entirely depends on the game, though. GW2 will likely see a very hefty increase, as it relies heavily on your CPU (as many MMO games do). I'd say you'll see a better increase by going with an H77/i5 setup, but it's your choice.

 

[Smeg45]

If you want the most speed from any system then you have to OC. I wouldn't get Bulldozer. Its simply too slow. Stick with a 965, and since its going EOL around september, you should get in quick.

 

[wackeyz]

Here we Go Last Question i have come to Two last Conclusions:

AMD Option :

AMD FX8150
+
Asrock 970

Intel:

i5 3570k
+
ASRock Z77

Which will Provide me with better performance of the Graphics card, meaning which will no bottleneck and which one is better value for Money

Thanks to everyone who helped thus far

 

[Smeg45]

AMD 965 + Asus M5A97.

 

[fpoon]

Here we Go Last Question i have come to Two last Conclusions:

AMD Option :

AMD FX8150
+
Asrock 970

Intel:

i5 3570k
+
ASRock Z77

Which will Provide me with better performance of the Graphics card, meaning which will no bottleneck and which one is better value for Money

Thanks to everyone who helped thus far

Since you're going to do gaming, go for the i5.
That is, unless you're using programs that will use a lot of cores (Photoshop, fo example, or a CAD program).

 

[ojas]

Gaming=i5. Period. Even a i3 will do really, but prefereably the i5.

Do not touch any bulldozer CPU for gaming. And you don't have to pick the most expensive i5. even a 3450 or a 3550 will be great.

Bulldozer CPUs have a sad IPC rate, which is why they get punished in gaming workloads. Plus their "cores" are different from traditional x86 cores, so the OS can't use them as well as it could.