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October 22, 2012 3:47:32 AM

Before the standard form I would like to say this is my first time building a pc and I have a partial list of parts(everything but monitors and graphics card):

-Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz
-ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel -Motherboard
-RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W
-CORSAIR DOMINATOR GT 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000.

Newegg wish list of parts: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...


Approximate Purchase Date: Before November 18, 2012

Budget Range: $800-1,200 after rebates/ after shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Parts to Upgrade: (I am building a new PC, First time)

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg

Location: Sacramento, CA USA

Parts Preferences: I know nothing, am unbiased.

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire:Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: I don't know probably start with one decent sized monitor, maybe add a second later.

Additional Comments: I already have some parts I just need to finish the list, and maybe have some suggestions

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I am building a PC for the first time. Currently using a laptop that doesn't have the power I want for gaming.
October 22, 2012 3:52:14 AM

the processor and the mobo don't match up... simply because the cpu is socket 2011 while mobo is socket 1155... the cpu is meant to pair up with x79 chipset
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October 22, 2012 3:55:39 AM

phenom90 said:
the processor and the mobo don't match up... simply because the cpu is socket 2011 while mobo is socket 1155... the cpu is meant to pair up with x79 chipset

So do I need to find a different mother board? If so, how should i find one?
These parts were suggested to me by an acquaintance irl.
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October 22, 2012 4:11:08 AM

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So do I need to find a different mother board? If so, how should i find one?
These parts were suggested to me by an acquaintance irl.


Not sure I'd take his advice seriously if he suggests junk PSUs and motherboard and CPU combos that don't mix. That motherboard is fine. Use the 3570K CPU and you're good.

You would be wise to stay very very very far away from Raidmax - some of the worst power supplies in the industry. They make expensive paper weights, but not good power supplies. And never pay the kind of money for Dominator RAM that Corsair charges - it's very overrated and expensive for the features you get. RAM is RAM is RAM - it's all pretty much the same except for the heat sinks. Also yeah the 3820 and Z77 won't mix.

Try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($386.97 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1139.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

I couldn't find the Vapor X on PC Part Picker but for some reason Newegg is really weird with Sapphire cards.
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October 22, 2012 4:12:01 AM

Blue0ak said:
So do I need to find a different mother board? If so, how should i find one?
These parts were suggested to me by an acquaintance irl.


Either get a different motherboard, or a different processor.

If you are sticking with your processor, then get an X79 chipset motherboard. Basically, when you look at model numbers of the motherboards, you should see something that includes 'X79' and not 'Z77,' or 'P68,' etc.
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October 22, 2012 4:16:01 AM

g-unit1111 said:
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So do I need to find a different mother board? If so, how should i find one?
These parts were suggested to me by an acquaintance irl.


Not sure I'd take his advice seriously if he suggests junk PSUs and motherboard and CPU combos that don't mix. That motherboard is fine. Use the 3570K CPU and you're good.

You would be wise to stay very very very far away from Raidmax - some of the worst power supplies in the industry. They make expensive paper weights, but not good power supplies. And never pay the kind of money for Dominator RAM that Corsair charges - it's very overrated and expensive for the features you get. RAM is RAM is RAM - it's all pretty much the same except for the heat sinks. Also yeah the 3820 and Z77 won't mix.

Try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($386.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1129.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

I couldn't find the Vapor X on PC Part Picker but for some reason Newegg is really weird with Sapphire cards.


this is a great build, although I would say get a 7950 and oc it rather than getting a 7970.
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October 22, 2012 4:24:32 AM

somethingfishy said:
this is a great build, although I would say get a 7950 and oc it rather than getting a 7970.


I'd rather use a 7970GHz edition but I couldn't find it for some reason.
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October 22, 2012 4:27:38 AM

i've compiled a list.. take a look...

http://www.microcenter.com/product/354589/Core_i5_2500K...
Core i5 2500K - $160

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
BIOSTAR TZ77XE3 - $115

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Edition 8GB PVI38G160C9K - $30

http://www.microcenter.com/product/373900/Hyper_212_EVO...
Hyper 212 EVO - $30

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&vpn=WD10EZEX&man...
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM - $70

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74132&vpn=MZ-7PC128B%2...
Samsung 830 Series 128GB - $105

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62223&vpn=P1850BNLG9&m...
XFX 850W PRO850W XXX Edition - $120

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65171&vpn=ELEVEN%20HUN...
Antec Eleven Hundred - $90

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAPPHIRE 100351SR Radeon HD 7970 3GB - $387

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LG DVD Burner GH24NS90 - $16


total: $1123 after rebate excluding shipping..

the mobo and psu allow you to make room for second hd 7970 later if you wish to add another 1...

http://www.techpowerup.com/174145/AMD-Announces-Never-S...

http://www.techpowerup.com/174146/AMD-Also-Announces-Ne...

with the upcoming driver boost and game bundles.. amd is going to score a big win over nvidia...

well... if you don't mind using a slower gpu.. this 1 can save you almost $100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAPPHIRE 100352-2L Radeon HD 7950 3GB - $285 after rebate

honestly... money-wise i'd go for hd 7950... it is still more than you need to power a 1080p gaming...
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October 22, 2012 5:08:30 AM

phenom90 said:
i've compiled a list.. take a look...

http://www.microcenter.com/product/354589/Core_i5_2500K...
Core i5 2500K - $160

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
BIOSTAR TZ77XE3 - $115

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Edition 8GB PVI38G160C9K - $30

http://www.microcenter.com/product/373900/Hyper_212_EVO...
Hyper 212 EVO - $30

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&vpn=WD10EZEX&man...
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM - $70

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74132&vpn=MZ-7PC128B%2...
Samsung 830 Series 128GB - $105

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62223&vpn=P1850BNLG9&m...
XFX 850W PRO850W XXX Edition - $120

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65171&vpn=ELEVEN%20HUN...
Antec Eleven Hundred - $90

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAPPHIRE 100351SR Radeon HD 7970 3GB - $387

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LG DVD Burner GH24NS90 - $16


total: $1123 after rebate excluding shipping..

the mobo and psu allow you to make room for second hd 7970 later if you wish to add another 1...

http://www.techpowerup.com/174145/AMD-Announces-Never-S...

http://www.techpowerup.com/174146/AMD-Also-Announces-Ne...

with the upcoming driver boost and game bundles.. amd is going to score a big win over nvidia...

well... if you don't mind using a slower gpu.. this 1 can save you almost $100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAPPHIRE 100352-2L Radeon HD 7950 3GB - $285 after rebate

honestly... money-wise i'd go for hd 7950... it is still more than you need to power a 1080p gaming...


Biostar? Really? Gigabyte and Asus are usually the best of the best, if you're paying that kind of money for a system there's no reason you should cheap out on the motherboard.
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October 22, 2012 5:46:28 AM

g-unit1111 said:
Biostar? Really? Gigabyte and Asus are usually the best of the best, if you're paying that kind of money for a system there's no reason you should cheap out on the motherboard.


you're right... gigabyte and asus already made the name for itself.. but they're not the only vendors that can produce good mobo.. the list that i've compiled largely based on good value while not sacrificing quality and performance.. as far as quality issues even asus and gigabyte also comes out with defective product which is why manufacturer warranty provided in each product is relevant.. and this is only a sub $1200 build so i don't see anything cheap out.. this board earned positive review which is why i recommend this model..
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October 22, 2012 6:23:42 AM

phenom90 said:
you're right... gigabyte and asus already made the name for itself.. but they're not the only vendors that can produce good mobo.. the list that i've compiled largely based on good value while not sacrificing quality and performance.. as far as quality issues even asus and gigabyte also comes out with defective product which is why manufacturer warranty provided in each product is relevant.. and this is only a sub $1200 build so i don't see anything cheap out.. this board earned positive review which is why i recommend this model..


I wouldn't trust Newegg reviews - those are baseless most of the time. Tom's gave the Biostar positive reviews but I would still really question reliability before I recommend a product.
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October 22, 2012 6:33:49 AM

g-unit1111 said:
I wouldn't trust Newegg reviews - those are baseless most of the time. Tom's gave the Biostar positive reviews but I would still really question reliability before I recommend a product.


i understand your concerns just like when more people using iphone in this world doesn't mean that other phones are cheap and no good for use although in this case a product's reliability.. again i recommend it based on positive reviews and good features for the price... moreover it is covered by manufacturers warranty... there are gigabyte or asus users also experiencing problems with their products so as long as manufacturers honor the warranty i don't see any problem there..
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October 22, 2012 7:34:21 AM

phenom90 said:
i understand your concerns just like when more people using iphone in this world doesn't mean that other phones are cheap and no good for use although in this case a product's reliability.. again i recommend it based on positive reviews and good features for the price... moreover it is covered by manufacturers warranty... there are gigabyte or asus users also experiencing problems with their products so as long as manufacturers honor the warranty i don't see any problem there..


I recommend parts based on durability, longevity (warranties), and most importantly build quality. I don't recommend off brands unless they make quality components.
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October 22, 2012 7:44:09 AM

g-unit1111 said:
I recommend parts based on durability, longevity (warranties), and most importantly build quality. I don't recommend off brands unless they make quality components.


yeah.. true but there still other manufacturer that make good quality products like asrock..
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October 22, 2012 8:22:22 AM

phenom90 said:
yeah.. true but there still other manufacturer that make good quality products like asrock..


Asrock actually started as a subsidiary of Asus, and they've become a top tier manufacturer recently.
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October 22, 2012 8:34:38 AM

g-unit1111 said:
Asrock actually started as a subsidiary of Asus, and they've become a top tier manufacturer recently.


yeah... they've been producing quality products that targets value-oriented market as well... like z77 extreme4, extreme6.. now they trying to break into high end market with z77 oc formula and z77 extreme11..
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October 22, 2012 2:03:49 PM

What is the practical difference of the two different fans?
Phenom's is twice as expensive than g-unit's.
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October 22, 2012 2:39:51 PM

what two different fans?
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October 23, 2012 12:40:13 AM

Never mind I looked at it in a hurry this morning and confused myself
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October 27, 2012 5:07:04 AM

Best answer selected by Blue0ak.
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