rotorite86

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Hi All! First post here on Tom's. I have wanted to build a gaming PC for several years now, and with FarCry3 on the way, I figured now was the time! Please take a look -- I an open to any changes!!!

Approximate Purchase Date: Within next 1-2 weeks

Budget Range: $1000 Before Rebates; Before Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Internet Use

Are you buying a monitor: Yes - However I am not including in the price point. Looking at Asus VS247H-P 24-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor

Parts to Upgrade: New Build

Do you need to buy OS: Yes, should be included in price point

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: None preferred

Location: Waterbury, CT, USA

Parts Preferences: Intel, nVidia

Overclocking: Possibly in the future for CPU

SLI or Crossfire: In the future (dual 2GB setup?)

Your Monitor Resolution: above listed at 1920x1080

Additional Comments:

With the $1,000 price point, an SSD could be a had, or not. I never shut off my PCs so a quick OS boot is of no concern to me. However, when running games, faster load times would be preferable. Is it worth the extra $100 for a 128G SSD? I am not sure the SSD would be worth the higher cost and/or sacrifice from the build elsewhere.

I don't believe the below equipment is ideal for a CPU overclock, but this would only be a future possibility. In the future, the first upgrade would likely be a 2nd GPU (dual 660 Ti anyone?) which is why the PSU is listed a 750W. Also would be interested in increased memory to 16GB in the future, when games demand it.

I've left off an optical drive since so many games can be downloaded this day and I still have a laptop if I wanted to burn CDs, etc.

The key is that I would prefer the system to be easily upgradable. I have spent several days looking into various components and browsing the forums here. Any advice would be great!!!

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/l89U
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/l89U/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/l89U/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Dominator 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.93 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)

Total: $1016.85 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
 
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I would go for 256 gigs if you arent going to have any sort of mechanical drive at all. Although 128gb with a very cheap hdd might work just as good for your purposes. Or just the 128 it will fill up very fast though and you dont want to fill it out all the way.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lbx4
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lbx4/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lbx4/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.82 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master...

lt_dan_zsu

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I am seeing this. I don't know if it is the same board, but you can get it now with 8gb ram free
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837&name=Intel-Motherboards
So you don't have to buy the ram you have selected.
I would get the 7950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006&name=Desktop-Graphics-Cards
I know you said that you don't like amd. But look at some benchmarks. The 7950 beats it in almost every benchmark and even the 670 a few times
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-benchmark-review,3279-10.html
 

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+1 on the 7950. The 660 Ti wouldn't be so effective in SLI anyway, especially with it being crippled by the 192-bit bus.

Also, if you're considering OC in the future, the CPU you chose isn't the unlocked version. Get the one that has 'K' in the name. If you're sure you won't be OC-ing, get the i5-3450 or 3470 instead. Performance difference is negligible.
 

rotorite86

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I am seeing this. I don't know if it is the same board, but you can get it now with 8gb ram free
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] therboards
So you don't have to buy the ram you have selected.
I would get the 7950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] hics-Cards
I know you said that you don't like amd. But look at some benchmarks. The 7950 beats it in almost every benchmark and even the 670 a few times
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 79-10.html

I am not adiment on GPU, so I will definitely take a look into that.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/l9rC
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/l9rC/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/l9rC/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.82 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($284.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer GD235HZbid 120Hz 23.6" Monitor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1224.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

I like it! I have been thinking more and more about the i5-3570k. Appears, with the software availabilities of ASUS, for example, overclocking isn't brain surgery. From what I have read it appears the i5-3570k can be clocked well over 4, think I saw 4.4ghz in several places.

I have also thought about scrapping the mechanical harddrive for a single SSD. I have a laptop which has plenty of storage for video/music which I could easily share with this build. Would 128GB SSD be acceptable for installing the OS (W7-64bit) and several games? Could always get a mechanical drive down the road.

Noticed the price here included the monitor --- very nice!!!
 

lt_dan_zsu

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I would go for 256 gigs if you arent going to have any sort of mechanical drive at all. Although 128gb with a very cheap hdd might work just as good for your purposes. Or just the 128 it will fill up very fast though and you dont want to fill it out all the way.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lbx4
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lbx4/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lbx4/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.82 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($194.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($284.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer GD235HZbid 120Hz 23.6" Monitor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1274.72

Also feel free the switch out the cooler. The evo 212 will allow you to get a solid overclock (maybe 4.4 who knows) however something like a noctua d14 will be needed if you really want to crank it. Or even a a much noiser slightly more expesnive but slightly cooler and much more room in your case h80/h100 .
windows 7 takes up about 20gigs so that leaves you with about 100 left. You could probably get 3-5 games, with very few game saves. But If it is your only drive I would get at least 256gb. I would get at least a 500gb hdd to accompany you ssd though.
 
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rotorite86

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Alright, so using the suggestions listed, here is what I have put together:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ldI0
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ldI0/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ldI0/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.82 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($194.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill BlackHawk ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($178.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1278.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

I changed the memory from what was previously listed to account for the free memory that is received with the ASRock Z77 @ NewEgg.

Also, when buying the Radeon HD 7950, AMD is currently giving you a gift card redeemable for FarCry3 -- the main reason I was buying this rig (awesome!).

There is no HDD on this build, that will be added later if I want to add one.

Thoughts on the above? Again I have now decided that I likely will overclock the CPU and apparently the Radeon HD 7950 reacts well to overclocking, so I have looked into that also. Down the road I would be adding a video card, though this will suffice for quite some time I would think.


The prices are close enough (within $40-50 I think), I just might order all from NewEgg to keep it simple.
 

rotorite86

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That is what I like to hear! I split the order between NewEgg and Amazon so I can keep my sanity (and I've done business with Amazon hundreds of times).

Now I will have to click the button -- its all in the shopping cart! :)

Thanks so much for the help!!
 

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if you read his post, he said that he will be going with the free ram he is just putting it in there as a reference to how the build looks like
 

rotorite86

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Looks pretty solid but you should really grab the monitor i suggested. Its only 20 bucks more and its 120 hz will look really nice and is an absolute steal at that price.

Also as mentioned get cheaper ram or for 39.99 go with g skill or lp vengeance

That monitor you listed is $249.99 cheapest. Not sure how the price ended up at $199 earlier but it isn't that cheap now.

In general, I am an LED snob. The quality improvement between no LED backlight and LED is what makes me love the LED. My TV is a 46" LED so that probably makes me biased lol. Also the one you listed is 3D ready which I have no intention of using.

Originally I wasn't going to get a monitor at all. I have two old school 19", but the max res is lame and I am sure the RT is nowhere near 2 ms.
 

rotorite86

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Yeah I just refreshed my shopping cart and its gone. :fou:

So, what 8 GB RAM to get? :lol:
 

rotorite86

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Apparently NewEgg was having issues or something last night. The free RAM was up again today. I also discovered two Promo that saved me another $28.50.

I didn't have a MicroCenter around so I couldn't get the very low price on the CPU.

Final price, from Amazon and NewEgg: $1,338.70. That does not include $55 in mail-in rebates. Total after rebate: $1,283.70.

Thanks for everyones help on this! Much appreciated. Hope I won't have to create a thread when it comes to assembling -- first time for me!