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October 24, 2012 10:08:38 PM

-Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.5GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637I53450 (194.99 Newegg)
-ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS (149.99 Newegg)
-EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (409.99 Newegg)
-Seasonic SS-560KM Active PFC F3, 560W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91, 80Plus Gold Certified, Modular Power Supply (124.99 Newegg)
-OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-256G 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (209.99 Newegg)
-Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (179.99 Newegg)
-G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9Q-16GAB (74.99 Newegg)
-Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (119.99 Newegg.com)


any thoughts?
October 24, 2012 10:21:41 PM

any reason to not got with the i5-3570k?
October 24, 2012 10:27:04 PM

i thought that overclocking wouldnt make a huge difference... so i got a cheaper cpu and i only need an evo cooler instead of an expensive water block for the cpu.
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a b å Intel
October 24, 2012 10:38:16 PM

16GB of RAM won't help much on a gaming build but overclocking will make a huge difference.

Maybe try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TH ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($192.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1524.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

If you need monitor, OS, etc, I can adjust accordingly.
October 24, 2012 10:38:59 PM

well the CPU you mention wont need any after market cooler, the stock cooler is good enough. Also you would be wasting money on the motherboard.
No games out nor any game in the forseeable future use 8Gb of ram so 16Gb is wasted on a gaming machine.
The difference that a i5-3570k overclocked to 4.2Ghz with just the Evo cooler is greatly noticable and signifigant compared to a standard clocked 3450. Especially with the system you are trying to build "Fkin Best Build for 1400ish"

Also if you no plan on SLI for future proofing?
here is my suggestion:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lkjR

a b å Intel
October 24, 2012 10:42:15 PM

Apropo said:
well the CPU you mention wont need any after market cooler, the stock cooler is good enough. Also you would be wasting money on the motherboard.
No games out nor any game in the forseeable future use 8Gb of ram so 16Gb is wasted on a gaming machine.
The difference that a i5-3570k overclocked to 4.2Ghz with just the Evo cooler is greatly noticable and signifigant compared to a standard clocked 3450. Especially with the system you are trying to build "Fkin Best Build for 1400ish"

Also if you no plan on SLI for future proofing?
here is my suggestion:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lkke


If you want the "F------ best build" as stated in the title, you'd better be prepared to overclock and plan for future SLI as well. The only way to truly future proof a system - especially one on this budget - is to keep all your expansion options as open as possible. Get the latest hardware, don't skimp in some areas (motherboard, etc).
October 24, 2012 10:46:35 PM

g-unit1111 said:
If you want the "F------ best build" as stated in the title, you'd better be prepared to overclock and plan for future SLI as well. The only way to truly future proof a system - especially one on this budget - is to keep all your expansion options as open as possible. Get the latest hardware, don't skimp in some areas (motherboard, etc).

Agreed -

With that in mind -

Here is my suggestion:
A build with the GTX 670 -
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lklO
$1257.73

or this
Radeon 7970 Ghz Ed. -
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lknw
$1311.52
Leaves you open for SLI in the future and able to expand RAM if needed. You will also be able to Over Clock the CPU when you need and have no worries. I've been able to keep mine stable on this same cooler at 4.5Ghz. Hope this build helps you.
a b å Intel
October 24, 2012 10:49:54 PM

Apropo said:
Agreed -

With that in mind -

Here is my suggestion:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lklO
$1257.73

Leaves you open for SLI in the future and able to expand RAM if needed. You will also be able to Over Clock the CPU when you need and have no worries. I've been able to keep mine stable on this same cooler at 4.5Ghz. Hope this build helps you.


I'd go for a PC Power & Cooling Silencer and save a good $30 off the price tag. That way if you need OS you can still get a license and come in under budget.
October 24, 2012 10:53:19 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I'd go for a PC Power & Cooling Silencer and save a good $30 off the price tag. That way if you need OS you can still get a license and come in under budget.



It might be a personal thing but to me the modular corsair is easily worth the $30 extra also if he adds an OS for $99 its still under 1400.
a b å Intel
October 24, 2012 11:01:25 PM

Get rid of that extreme 4 good grief why are people hung up on that get one of these mobo:GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/gigabyte_z77x_ud5h... <--- review of that motherboard w/benchmarks


mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/asus_p... <--- review w/benchmarks http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/ASUS-P8Z77-V-PRO... <--- review w/benchmarks http://www.techreaction.net/2012/06/28/review-asus-p8z7... <--- review w/benchmarks
October 24, 2012 11:06:13 PM

because its a great value motherboard. Absolutely nothing wrong with it and really no need to spend extra on those other boards that would make that much of a difference...
a b å Intel
October 25, 2012 1:17:57 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Get rid of that extreme 4 good grief why are people hung up on that get one of these mobo:GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/gigabyte_z77x_ud5h... <--- review of that motherboard w/benchmarks


mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/asus_p... <--- review w/benchmarks http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/ASUS-P8Z77-V-PRO... <--- review w/benchmarks http://www.techreaction.net/2012/06/28/review-asus-p8z7... <--- review w/benchmarks


YES!!! I'd much rather use a Gigabyte UD3H (same board I have) than an Extreme 4. Lately I've been recommending the UD4 TH on higher end builds.
October 25, 2012 1:59:23 AM

g-unit1111 said:
YES!!! I'd much rather use a Gigabyte UD3H (same board I have) than an Extreme 4. Lately I've been recommending the UD4 TH on higher end builds.



My system actually has the UP4 TH its awesome!!!
a b å Intel
October 25, 2012 5:46:01 PM

Apropo said:
My system actually has the UP4 TH its awesome!!!


My only regret is not getting Thunderbolt - I will be purchasing an add-in card for my UD3H though.
October 25, 2012 11:17:13 PM

Asus is the number one motherboard selling company with the best reviews... don't get me wrong gigabyte has good eviews as well and i believe that they were second in terms of how many mobos they sold. I was talking to an asus engineer about the p8z77 mobos and they seemd great.. I was suggested the P8Z77-v it works best with the intel's 3rd gen chips eg. i5-3570k.

Now what my main concern is.. will it be worth it to Overclock my CPU with this build.. Or can i get a superb gaming experiance from Diablo 3 with no lag spikes without Overclocking my CPU? If not then i will want to Overclock my CPU because there is nothing worse than lagging and your settup not being able to handle max graphics.

If i have to spend the *** load extra money time and effort and get a noctura air cooler then i will but it has to be absolutely necessary.
a b å Intel
October 26, 2012 12:32:12 AM

You don't half to overclock that's non sense but some prefer to overclock if you rather not then don't simple as that it's a nice option to have but if you don't want it maybe this PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($134.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1222.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
October 26, 2012 11:02:44 PM

That last build you suggested bigcyco1 looks really good exept the ram shouldn't it be G.Skill Ares instead of corsair vengence?

and the graphics card the gtx 670, shouldn't i get the FTW version.. better graphics? ill look into it but yea like i said, looks good.
a b å Intel
October 26, 2012 11:17:01 PM

The ram is fine and its a dollar cheaper right now so i decided to go with it a buck saved is better then a buck spent right lol and yes i wanted to go with the MSI 670 PE or EVGA 670 FTW but it made it go over what i thought you be cool with budget wise bud.P.S. You could get which ever ram you prefer it's no big deal either way all will preform the same out those
October 26, 2012 11:44:42 PM

So im thinking same build as you siggested but 2 changes on the ram and graphics card ill explain below.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($134.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)

Changes
-Video Card: EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (389.99 @ Newegg)
-Memory: G.Skill Ares 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (price i dont know)

look good? ty for replys
a b å Intel
October 26, 2012 11:53:28 PM

Looks great and your welcome it's no problem anytime!
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