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October 25, 2012 2:28:57 PM

Hello.

I have

FX-4170 4.2 Ghz Processor
GA-990XA-UD3 Motherboard
2x 4GB Kingston Hyper X 1600mhz RAM
MSI GTX 550 ti 1GDDR5 192bit
Western Digital 640 GB SATA 2
LC power LC600 watt PSU
Cooler Master Gemin II SF524 CPU Cooler
LG W1934S 1440x900

I would like you to rate my computer and also hear your opinion on what should I upgrade to play games in max detail.

Graphics improvement - What do you think is better, another 550ti to run in SLI or investment in 7850?
Storage improvement - Would 1TB SATA3 be better than 120GB SSD + my HDD?
Power supply improvement - Is it needed?

Thank you for your time and reply!

Salut,
Boris

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October 25, 2012 2:36:55 PM

You have a well rounded rig there. If you want to play games at higher rates, upgrade your video card to something like a 7870 or a 660gtx. I would stay away from SLI. An SSD will greatly improve performance in many areas. You may want to upgrade the power supply to a better brand like Seasonic, a 520w would be plenty.
October 25, 2012 2:48:34 PM

550ti in SLi is not very good. I did it to my old AMD rig as I had an extra 550ti lying around there are heat issues and the performance lacks.

I would upgrade in this order

1 - GPU & PSU - get the best single card solution you can afford this is what defines your gaming experience largely. Pair it with a decent PSU.

2 - SSD - Everyone loves snappy loading times and once you have a top end GPU this is a nice cherry on your cakes icing

3 - CPU - That's a decent mobo you have for now Overclock the CPU you have but in 6 months times when prices have likely dropped consider a new FX 83xx .
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a b B Homebuilt system
October 25, 2012 3:51:10 PM

It looks good for the res you play at. If I were to upgrade I would go monitor>better single gpu & psu>ssd>processor.
October 25, 2012 8:07:36 PM

Thank you guys for your replies.

The problem I have in my country is limited access to most of the components you can get. :( 
a b B Homebuilt system
October 25, 2012 8:35:38 PM

I agree that your system is balanced, if modest. Your PSU may be questionable (i.e. not good for anywhere near the 600W on its label), and would be the first thing I'd change before improving anything else. Find something that is 80+ certified (confirm it isn't fake at www.80plus.org); not for the efficiency (although that's nice too), but for the fact it was run at 100% of its label and didn't die a fiery death like cheap junk. If you're not planning to replace your monitor, your GPU ought to be sufficient. What is not performing as well as you'd like? a HD7770 would be an improvement, but I'm not sure worth its price vs. lowering a setting or two, and a HD7850 would be a decent improvement, but at close to $200 here, could be a budget-buster there. My suspicion is that you would likely see improvement from a better CPU; either get one of the new Vishera (Piledriver) chips (preferably the 8320 or 8350), or if they aren't available, get a quad core Phenom II 980BE or 970BE. With a HD7850 and either of those CPUs, a decent 500W PSU would be sufficient. I prefer Seasonic (or anything built by them), Antec, FSP, or Enermax/LEPA. Avoid the Corsair V2 "Builder" units; unlike the original ones which were built by Seasonic, the V2s were built by Channel Well, using inferior Samxon capacitors from a line known to fail early.
October 27, 2012 5:00:35 PM

Onus said:
I agree that your system is balanced, if modest. Your PSU may be questionable (i.e. not good for anywhere near the 600W on its label), and would be the first thing I'd change before improving anything else. Find something that is 80+ certified (confirm it isn't fake at www.80plus.org); not for the efficiency (although that's nice too), but for the fact it was run at 100% of its label and didn't die a fiery death like cheap junk. If you're not planning to replace your monitor, your GPU ought to be sufficient. What is not performing as well as you'd like? a HD7770 would be an improvement, but I'm not sure worth its price vs. lowering a setting or two, and a HD7850 would be a decent improvement, but at close to $200 here, could be a budget-buster there. My suspicion is that you would likely see improvement from a better CPU; either get one of the new Vishera (Piledriver) chips (preferably the 8320 or 8350), or if they aren't available, get a quad core Phenom II 980BE or 970BE. With a HD7850 and either of those CPUs, a decent 500W PSU would be sufficient. I prefer Seasonic (or anything built by them), Antec, FSP, or Enermax/LEPA. Avoid the Corsair V2 "Builder" units; unlike the original ones which were built by Seasonic, the V2s were built by Channel Well, using inferior Samxon capacitors from a line known to fail early.

Thank you, sir!

Piledrivers not available as well as Phenom 970 and 980 :( 
BUT Phenom II x4 965 black is available and it is cheaper than my current processor. Do you think I should go with 965?
What do you think of Cooler Master GX series PSU?
How about Chieftec A80 500W CTG-500-80P? About 55-60 euro. It seems like a decent one.
a b B Homebuilt system
October 27, 2012 6:38:03 PM

CM PSUs are not good. In particular, the GX650 was summarized as "a polished turd in a box" by HardOCP.
The 965BE is a viable choice, which can be overclocked easily to at least the level of a 980.
If the Chieftec is 80+, I'd definitely choose it over any CM.
October 27, 2012 7:04:19 PM

CPU AMD Phenom II x4 965 black edition - 100 euro
GPU ATI 7850 1GBDDR5/256 bit - ~160 euro
PSU A80 Chieftec 600W - ~67 euro

Total: ~330 euro

Now I need to sell my 4170 and gtx 550 ti. If i get 200 euro it would be great. They are still on warranty but I doubt store will take them back.

Then my PC will be:

Phenom X4 II 3.4 Ghz Processor
GA-990XA-UD3 Motherboard
2x 4GB Kingston Hyper X 1600mhz RAM
MSI Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256bit - R7850-1GD5/OC
Western Digital 640 GB SATA 2
CHIEFTEC CTG-600-80P 600W A80
Cooler Master Gemin II SF524 CPU Cooler
LG W1934S 1440x900

Should run everything fine.
a b B Homebuilt system
October 27, 2012 7:26:18 PM

Yes, that will be an improvement. You don't have to, but you will likely find it easy to hit 3.8GHz on your CPU.
November 4, 2012 9:34:22 AM

As I finally decided to give up on AMD, my FX-4170 and GA-990XA-UD3 will be sold and I am switching to this configuration.

i5 3570K 3.4GHZ
Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H
Kingston 2x4GB ddr3 dual channel
MSI GTX 550 TI 1GDDR5 192bit
Cooler Master Gemin II SF524 Cooler
Xigmatek Asgard PRO CASE with fans installed (planning to make positive pressure)
Chieftec CTG-550C 550W semi-modular
Western Digital sata 2 640GB HDD
LG Flatron W1934S 1440x900

When I get some more money later, I plan to put a SSD and 7850 card. Should be a decent config to play on for a few years and not too expensive because of my limited budget.
a b B Homebuilt system
November 4, 2012 12:15:19 PM

Assuming the Chieftec PSU is reasonable, that is a good foundation. You will want a GPU upgrade at some point, but it looks like you've already got that planned. I suspect your new CPU will be able to get a little more performance out of that GTX550Ti than you were seeing with the FX-4170.
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