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October 25, 2012 8:17:40 PM

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

I'll be using this rig to play high-end games, and occasionally recording/editing game play. I could really use some suggestions for better parts/models in the next 24 hours because most of the deals on some these parts end in the 1-3 days. Also I'm not sure on the whether or not to get a GTX 680 or GTX 660ti for my high-end system. Would also like to know if my motherboard is up-to-par with my other components, and if i need to upgrade my power supply. I would like to not have to upgrade any components for the next 2-3 years if possible and keep my budget at around $1800. Any suggestions/changes would be very,very appreciated as I have some time constraints if i want to buy all the parts soon. Thanks in advance!
October 25, 2012 8:22:52 PM

That's an excellent start - a lot of good choices. What I would suggest is use low profile Vengeance RAM (or G.Skill Ares), 16GB isn't needed, and the Radeon 7950 is a better GPU for less money.
October 25, 2012 8:31:25 PM

Ditch the OCZ power supply and get one from Seasonic. Move down to a 3570K processor as the extra threads are not needed for games. Move to 2*8 sticks of memory so you can upgrade later. Ditch the OCZ Vertex 4 too, reliability is not great and the company is going under as I type. Get a Samsung 830 while they last. Other than that, I say your build is fine.
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October 25, 2012 8:36:42 PM

maestro0428 said:
Ditch the OCZ power supply and get one from Seasonic. Move down to a 3570K processor as the extra threads are not needed for games. Move to 2*8 sticks of memory so you can upgrade later. Ditch the OCZ Vertex 4 too, reliability is not great and the company is going under as I type. Get a Samsung 830 while they last. Other than that, I say your build is fine.


The ZT got high remarks on Jonnyguru.

The Vertex 4 is fine - I have one on my work PC and it works fine without any problems.
October 25, 2012 8:40:18 PM

Is my motherboard a good choice? Also for my processor would a 3770k lower fps rates or does it just have extra threads for rendering? Does 3770k lower fps rate or have higher temperatures when OC than a 3570k? I'd like to fill my $1800 budget so if anyone wants to recommend part swaps i'd love some input. As for the ssd and power supply I'll make the changes and update my wishlist. Could really use some case suggestions I'd like it to have good air flow and decent cable management, after I change my parts I'd love a compatibility check :) .
October 25, 2012 9:05:59 PM

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Is my motherboard a good choice?


Yes.

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Also for my processor would a 3770k lower fps rates or does it just have extra threads for rendering? Does 3770k lower fps rate or have higher temperatures when OC than a 3570k?


That is entirely GPU dependent, the CPU does nothing to really control your games' frame rates.

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Could really use some case suggestions I'd like it to have good air flow and decent cable management, after I change my parts I'd love a compatibility check :) .


That depends on how much you want to spend.
October 25, 2012 9:26:53 PM

For my cases I'd like to spend around $50-$120 or so, whatever has the best ventilation and cable management. If you find a good one could you please link a good case fan i could apply to all the avaliable slot? Thanks a ton for the help!

Also
*660ti Vs 680? Some people have said go with a Amd card, but i'd like to go with an intel card because this benchmark shows a 660ti beating out a 7950 on ultra settings with Bf3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTujzlj11I8.
October 25, 2012 9:31:57 PM

hamzz said:
For my cases I'd like to spend around $50-$120 or so, whatever has the best ventilation and cable management. If you find a good one could you please link a good case fan i could apply to all the avaliable slot? Thanks a ton for the help!

Also
*660ti Vs 680? Some people have said go with a Amd card, but i'd like to go with an intel card because this benchmark shows a 660ti beating out a 7950 on ultra settings with Bf3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTujzlj11I8.


1. Try the NZXT Phantom 410: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Alternately consider the Fractal Design Define R4: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2. There's tons of debate about that. Since Catalyst 12.7 has been released the 7970 has retaken the lead in performance. The 7950 is no slouch either.
October 25, 2012 9:43:05 PM

You should defiantly get low profile ram.... trust me i have an ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe like one step up from your board and i have the cooler master hyper 212 evo and the same kind of ram as you and i cant use one of my ram dims... i wish i would have listened lol

As for a case i agree with g-unit1111 both of those cases are awesome but Fractal Designs use a lot of customer input from their previous cases and uses that in their new ones.... idk if NZXT does this but im a happy Fractal owner...

The OCZ power supply must go as well Corsair and Seasonic are exponentially better...

-Jeff
October 25, 2012 10:00:31 PM

For the power supply would you mind sending me a link to a 650w or 700w modular for either brand? And for the fans above whats the main difference between the 120m quite, performance, and 140m quite?
October 25, 2012 10:43:12 PM

For the Fractal how many of those 120 mm fans would be best?
October 25, 2012 10:48:36 PM

hamzz said:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

I'll be using this rig to play high-end games, and occasionally recording/editing game play. I could really use some suggestions for better parts/models in the next 24 hours because most of the deals on some these parts end in the 1-3 days. Also I'm not sure on the whether or not to get a GTX 680 or GTX 660ti for my high-end system. Would also like to know if my motherboard is up-to-par with my other components, and if i need to upgrade my power supply. I would like to not have to upgrade any components for the next 2-3 years if possible and keep my budget at around $1800. Any suggestions/changes would be very,very appreciated as I have some time constraints if i want to buy all the parts soon. Thanks in advance!


My advice is to get a 7970GHz. It is the fastest card out and it costs less than the 680. In fact you can find some for $400!
October 25, 2012 10:50:36 PM

J3TW4V3 said:
shopping around will save some cash as well... hope this helps

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lqur

-Jeff

WOW! Thank you so much for doing that!
October 25, 2012 10:52:14 PM

hamzz said:
For my cases I'd like to spend around $50-$120 or so, whatever has the best ventilation and cable management. If you find a good one could you please link a good case fan i could apply to all the avaliable slot? Thanks a ton for the help!

Also
*660ti Vs 680? Some people have said go with a Amd card, but i'd like to go with an intel card because this benchmark shows a 660ti beating out a 7950 on ultra settings with Bf3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTujzlj11I8.


You clearly don't know what you are talking about. They are made by nVidia. That benchmark is old and that is one game. Check Tomshardware gpu hierarchy chart. The 7950 is a full tier above the 660ti.
October 25, 2012 10:53:47 PM

hamzz said:
For the Fractal how many of those 120 mm fans would be best?


it says it supports 7 fan slots: 1 x 140mm and 1 x 120/140mm -front, 1 x 140mm - side panel, 1 x 140mm - rear, 1 x 120/140mm - bottom, 2 x 120/140mm top.
Aka 3 140mm fans and 4 120mm fans or 7 140mm fans
If it were me id fill them all.. but as long as you have 2 intake fans and 2 exhausting fans youll be fine IMO... but the more you put in the cooler the components will be...

-Jeff
October 25, 2012 11:01:45 PM

If you could live without the 3770k and went with an 3570k and only 8GB of ram you could up your GFX card and have some thing like this... much better IMO.... and save a whole $7.....lol

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lqyQ

-Jeff

October 25, 2012 11:05:35 PM

Do you think a 7970 is more "future proof" than a gtx 680?
Oh and also Windows 8 vs Windows 7? Whats considered to be better (Windows 8 looks to xboxie for me)?
October 25, 2012 11:14:25 PM

I think the 7970 and the 680 will have about the same longevity but for the price of that 7970 you could swap it for a 670.... the 680 is another $100

The os is for you too decide... i will not be purchasing Windows 8... id prefer windows 7

-Jeff
October 25, 2012 11:27:53 PM

If i was willing to pay the extra $100 for the 680 would it be worth it in terms of gfx? Sorry for all these pestering questions, I just want to make sure i get this right :o .
October 25, 2012 11:54:42 PM

If i added 7 of the 140mm corsair fans to the fractal case would i need to up my power supply?

Edit: Scratch the 680, going with a 660 ti will sli it later once in the summer or so
October 26, 2012 12:16:21 AM

You probably can run 50 140mm fans with any of the power supplies recommended here. 660ti or equivalent AMD are at a decent place for price/performance. I wouldn't necessarily SLI the 660ti at all, just wait and when you really need more performance you probably can upgrade + sell your 660ti for less cost overall.
October 26, 2012 1:06:53 AM

Honestly you could do as jacobsta811 is saying but by the time the new series of GFX cards come out and you wanna upgrade the 660ti might only resell for $75-$150.... 670 mabye will go for $200....so i guess what im saying is spend a little more now enjoy the performance and then sell it for the next series... Just a thought...

-Jeff
October 26, 2012 1:19:47 AM

hamzz said:
If i was willing to pay the extra $100 for the 680 would it be worth it in terms of gfx? Sorry for all these pestering questions, I just want to make sure i get this right :o .


It is definitely not worth the extra $100, stick with a 670 or a 7970.

Also the case you buy will come with some fans already, and typically keep things pretty cool with the stock config. I'd say 1-2 extra fans at most is probably good, depending on the case.
October 26, 2012 1:44:01 AM

Could you find the benchmarks? Also is everything else compatible?
October 26, 2012 1:59:42 AM

Take a look at this page from the 670 Review here on Tom's: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-rev...

To quote: "it is still surprising to see our GeForce GTX 670 sample perform just 4.5% slower than our reference GeForce GTX 680—certainly less of a gap then we were told to expect. Knowing that overclocking on air is often enough to overcome a sub-5% spread, this almost negates any reason you might have had for buying a GeForce GTX 680"
October 26, 2012 2:01:44 AM

The gtx 680 im getting is 4gb vram and its overclocked, wouldn't that offset those benchmarks?
October 26, 2012 2:05:19 AM

The 670 I linked you is factory overclocked as well. The VRAM doesn't make nearly as much of a difference as you might think, it really only becomes a factor when you are running extreme 3-monitor resolutions and heavy anti aliasing.

Even if you do want to run multiple displays, you're better off putting the $200 towards a second 670 to run in SLI, which would completely knock the socks off a single 680.
October 26, 2012 2:26:04 AM

Alright I have a decision to make over the 670 vs 680, so i guess I'll sleep on it. Do all the other parts match up whether or not i get a 670 or 680?
October 26, 2012 2:55:01 AM

Yep.
October 26, 2012 3:02:34 AM

everything is compatable..... if you want to run that way..... im telling you 3570k 8GB ram if you still want to run that 680 and ur if budget is $1950 you should up your monitor to a ASUS 27''...

-Jeff
October 26, 2012 6:20:12 AM

hamzz said:
Alright I have a decision to make over the 670 vs 680, so i guess I'll sleep on it. Do all the other parts match up whether or not i get a 670 or 680?


I'm sorry the 680 is a joke. The 7970 GHz is stronger AND $70 cheaper!!!
October 26, 2012 9:11:49 PM

J3TW4V3 said:
everything is compatable..... if you want to run that way..... im telling you 3570k 8GB ram if you still want to run that 680 and ur if budget is $1950 you should up your monitor to a ASUS 27''...

-Jeff

Going to dual the 23" once i get some more money to sink into this, and as for the 680 vs 7970 I'm going with the 680 for multiple reasons. Same with the i7-3770k vs the i5-3570k, I want my build to last me a couple years with room for upgrading and the i7-3770k will last my longer than the i5-3570k will. As for the monitor, I plan on running dual 23" soon.

I do have a question about my dvd drive though. Should i upgrade it to something else that runs a bit better? I plan on installing Dirt 3, Crysis 2, and other games when i build this in the next week and I'd like them to install at a decent rate.
October 27, 2012 12:08:17 AM

Ordered the parts, will update with benchmarks once i finish the build
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