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MSi gtx 680 4gb or 2x MSi gtx 660ti?

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August 30, 2012 2:37:46 PM

So here it is, I already decided to buy a new PSU which is "Corsair HX 650W PSU, 80 PLUS® Gold" instead of my 360W one, on Dell Studio XPS 435MT. But wondering what GPU should I go with, 1x "MSI GeForce GTX 680 4GB PhysX CUDA" or 2x "MSI GeForce GTX 660Ti 2GB PhysX CUDA". I know that not all of the games use the 2x GPU advantage, so it would be a bit shame to have 2x. While 1x gtx 680 would fit better for any game. Games that I consider running on highest graphic are: Saints Row 3, Skyrim, Guild Wars 2 and upcoming ones. By the way my CPU is "Intel Core i7 CPU 920 @ 267GHz (8CPUs), ~2.7GHz". So any suggestions with which one should I go? 1x 680 or 2x 660ti? Thank you! :bounce: 
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 3:08:56 PM

2x 660 ti wouldn't come close the a single GTX 680 so i think you should go for a HD 7970 GHz or GTX 680 and also i recommend ocing your cpu ?
August 30, 2012 3:24:32 PM

660ti in sli wouldnt perform but so well with the memory bus thats built into the cards, also when buying graphics cards you should buy the best card that you can afford for what you want. So the 680 would be more then enough for 1080p gaming and if your at higher resolutions it would be a very solid card. Also you would need to overclock the cpu to take full advantage of either of those setups.
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August 30, 2012 3:30:44 PM

Correct me, but I doubt any Dell supports 2 GPUs (besides Alienware). Get the 680.
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 3:31:17 PM

Are you gaming with a multi-monitor setup (3+ displays)?

If so, the extra 2GB of usable RAM on the GTX 680 would be your best option; even if it alone will not have enough power to drive newer games with the higest detail settings.

If you are not gaming with multiple monitors, two GTX 6600Ti's will outperform a single GTX 680 by a significant margin.

I would also highly recommend overclocking your i7 920 to 3.5-4GHz in order to alleviate any potential bottlenecks.


Edit:

Just saw that your are upgrading a Dell, so disregard the above.
It is extremly doubtful that you will be able to run multiple GPUs in SLI/CrossFire or overclock.
With that in mind, your only real choice would be the GTX 680 (or any other single card like a HD 7970).
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 3:53:31 PM

Have you checked the motherboard will accommodate 2 video cards in at least X8/X8? If it will, then I suggest gettinging 2 x 660Ti's
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 4:00:33 PM

According to This Dell Setup Guide, he only has a single PCIe 16x slot.

Even then, when the x58 chipset was being sold, nVidia was still being a dick about licensing out SLI support to vendors.
It is very unlikely that Dell would have payed nVidia to license SLI on any system that did not origionally have dual nVidia cards.

Unfortunately, it looks like he is stuck with a single GPU and no overclocking of the CPU :( 
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 4:09:12 PM

outlw6669 said:
According to This Dell Setup Guide, he only has a single PCIe 16x slot.

it ultimately depends on if he custmized the computer during the purchasing process... he would have to look at the MB and see if it has 2 slots
a c 186 U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 4:09:52 PM

With your current rig and set up i recommend a single R7950 or gtx 670
August 30, 2012 4:16:16 PM

Ty guys, but I think ill go with gtx 680 one. Also ye I don't think my dell would support 2x, will think in the future, maybe I'll change the whole system itself.

Btw whats good about gtx 670? 680 is newer and many people suggested me it. Even over 7970 soz when overclocked it overheats and consumes alot, while gtx 680 with twin froza keeps the GPU cooled down. ?
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 4:20:44 PM

The allure of a GTX 670 is that it costs quite a bit less than a GTX 680 while offering nearly the full performance.

A 79xx would also be an excellent choice, even if they do draw more power than nVidia's latest offerings.
AMD's latest cards offer excellent compute performance (which is finally becoming more important; nVidia decided to heavily nerf their performance here), more RAM, much more memory bandwidth and excellent overclocking potential.

In the end, the best way to find the best card for you is to check some reviews.
Pay attention to games you will be playing over several review sites and see which card, on average, performs best in these games.
August 30, 2012 4:31:29 PM

Well if someone have any thoughts about a decent price CPU, and a larger and better box, let me know. Because I, myself was worried if the details will fit into it... So got suggested a perfect PSU to fit into it, and probably going to go with MSi geforce gtx 680 4gb one. Unless someone convinces me otherwise.

I also going to run 2x monitors, going to buy a new one which supports 3D. My current one is 1680x1050, gonna buy bigger a little bit bigger one.

So yup, if anybody have a suggestion about a nice dekstop PC setup, let me know. (Even if this message is in the wrong topic). Thanks guys.
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 4:31:59 PM

you dont want two monitors with different sizes, and i don't suggest gaming on 2 - it's either one or 3...
August 30, 2012 4:33:30 PM

outlw6669 said:
The allure of a GTX 670 is that it costs quite a bit less than a GTX 680 while offering nearly the full performance.

A 79xx would also be an excellent choice, even if they do draw more power than nVidia's latest offerings.
AMD's latest cards offer excellent compute performance (which is finally becoming more important; nVidia decided to heavily nerf their performance here), more RAM, much more memory bandwidth and excellent overclocking potential.

In the end, the best way to find the best card for you is to check some reviews.
Pay attention to games you will be playing over several review sites and see which card, on average, performs best in these games.


At first I was going to buy AMD radeon 7970 one, but there are alot of them. Maybe there is a list of top 5 ones? Because I know gigabyte makes a solid ones, how about sapphire? toxic I heard is the best one?
a c 186 U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 4:33:33 PM

Domke said:
Ty guys, but I think ill go with gtx 680 one. Also ye I don't think my dell would support 2x, will think in the future, maybe I'll change the whole system itself.

Btw whats good about gtx 670? 680 is newer and many people suggested me it. Even over 7970 soz when overclocked it overheats and consumes alot, while gtx 680 with twin froza keeps the GPU cooled down. ?
Not sure who told you that non sense but the truth is a 670 offers 5% to 7% less than a 680 yet a 680 cost $100 more do you think for that little of a performance gain it's worth paying a hundred dollars more if so then yes get a 680 by all means but best bang for buck = 7950 and gtx 670 ;) 
August 30, 2012 4:36:41 PM

Also found a CPU which is on sale at the moment, for about next 20min Intel® Core i5-3570K Processor
Socket-LGA1155, Quad Core, 3.4Ghz, 6MB, Boxed w/fan
what you people think?
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 4:38:47 PM

the i5-3570K is a great cpu ?
August 30, 2012 4:41:17 PM

bigcyco1 said:
Not sure who told you that non sense but the truth is a 670 offers 5% to 7% less than a 680 yet a 680 cost $100 more do you think for that little of a performance gain it's worth paying a hundred dollars more if so then yes get a 680 by all means but best bang for buck = 7950 and gtx 670 ;) 

well you see, there are alot of people with different opinion. Ones suggested 7970 & 680, now you're suggesting me 7950 & 670. I'm getting confused ! :pt1cable: 
August 30, 2012 4:42:42 PM

gamerkila57 said:
the reason he suggested a GTX 670 is because a GTX 680 isn't that much faster than a GTX 670 which is a extra $100 waste. i would rather get an HD 7970 GHz before a GTX 680 as it cost less and performs the same ?

Which one then, because there are many different ones. Gigabyte, sapphire...? :) 
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 4:44:02 PM

the reason he suggested a GTX 670 is because a GTX 680 isn't that much faster than a GTX 670 which is a extra $100 waste. i would rather get an HD 7970 GHz before a GTX 680 as it cost less and performs the same ?
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 4:58:23 PM

Yes, your Corsair HX650 is plenty powerful enough and should serve you well now and in the future.
August 30, 2012 5:00:18 PM

By the way, found XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz 3GB GDDR5 on sale at the moment aswell. A bit cheaper by few bucks than Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7970 GHz Edition 3gb one. But the price has nothing to say, if sapphire is slightly better than xfx one.
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:01:29 PM

outlw6669 said:
Yes, your Corsair HX650 is plenty powerful enough and should serve you well now and in the future.

+1
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:04:43 PM

performance wise, 2X 660Ti will be better. It is also more expensive.
Single GTX 680 will be better IMO as it will suck less power. you can go sli in the future.
Heat output and noise will be less with a single card.

http://www.corsair.com/en/power-supply-units/hx-series-...

Go to tech specs and see, the HX650 Gold has only 2 pcie connectors so you cant support gtx 660 ti sli with that PSU.

The older 80+ Bronze supports 4 pcie connectors:
http://www.corsair.com/en/professional-series-hx650-80-...
August 30, 2012 5:10:13 PM

timarp000 said:
What resolution will you be gaming at?

1680x1050 at the moment
a c 186 U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:10:49 PM

A 680 is a bad buy imho price needs to drop $50 or more before it's worth considering again just imo if were speaking price and performance wise then 7950 or gtx 670 is the sweetest spots for high end gaming cards. I still think the Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7970 GHz Edition is a good buy not best but i would get it right now if i had the coin :D 
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:11:56 PM

Domke said:
+1to all of ye.
But +2 for bigcyco soz of that badass picture which convinced me. N sick video
3gb & 6gb has nothing to say right? 6gb would be to much I guess :D 

What resolution will you be gaming at?
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:12:59 PM

Domke said:
+1to all of ye.
But +2 for bigcyco soz of that badass picture which convinced me. N sick video
3gb & 6gb has nothing to say right? 6gb would be to much I guess :D 

you would only need 6GBs if you were running like 6+ monitors ? 3GB is plenty
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:13:48 PM

Domke said:
1680x1050 at the moment

Why do you need 3 or 6gig cards for 1680x1050? 2 gig is enough. Did you see my PSU post? serious thing to consider, you cant sli using that PSU unless you are using 7850's or 7700 series cards.
August 30, 2012 5:16:28 PM

gamerkila57 said:
you would only need 6GBs if you were running like 6+ monitors ? 3GB is plenty

ah ok then, need to take a course or something about PC's structure n all that stuff. Because I'm into the technology
August 30, 2012 5:18:10 PM

timarp000 said:
Why do you need 3 or 6gig cards for 1680x1050? 2 gig is enough. Did you see my PSU post? serious thing to consider, you cant sli using that PSU unless you are using 7850's or 7700 series cards.

Will buy 1 instead, 3gb one
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:19:21 PM

but he said he's going to upgrade his monitor soon so i think the HD 7970 is perfect ?
a c 186 U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:19:45 PM

lol oops!My bad @ your res that card is way overkill ahaha sorry my bad i can't agree with getting that monster it's to much for your needs period i jumped the gun on that one
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:21:18 PM

Domke said:
Will buy 1 instead, 3gb one

The 7970 is great! but the sapphire ones have blue pcb's, lots of people(like me) hate those pcb's.
Also, consider PhysX, great technology. But you will need an nvidia card
August 30, 2012 5:23:31 PM

So the overkill is on my resolution or my CPU? if CPU I could buy a new one, and will be upgrading monitor.
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:26:13 PM

since your upgrading your monitor the HD 7970 is the best card to get ?
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:26:48 PM

Domke said:
So the overkill is on my resolution or my CPU? if CPU I could buy a new one, and will be upgrading monitor.

Overkill on your resolution.
a c 186 U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:30:32 PM

o.k. come on guys let's all help him pick the right card for his needs no fanboy bs please... so we need to know which games you mostly play in order to recommend you the best card for your intended uses is PhysX CUDA something you really need or not and anybody else feel free to chime in here with any questions i missed in order for us to recommend him what is best for him not a amd fan or nvidia fan bias recommendation it's not right let's help him correctly
August 30, 2012 5:36:18 PM

bigcyco1 said:
o.k. come on guys let's all help him pick the right card for his needs no fanboy bs please... so we need to know which games you mostly play in order to recommend you the best card for your intended uses is PhysX CUDA something you really need or not and anybody else feel free to chime in here with any questions i missed in order for us to recommend him what is best for him not a amd fan or nvidia fan bias recommendation it's not right let's help him correctly

Well if I would buy a new monitor lets say 1920x1080, the AMD one would be aight?
If not then geforce one

But aight, games:
Metro 2033
Saints Row 3
Guild Wars 2
CS:GO
Total War Shogun 2
Portal 2
Skyrim
GTA 5
Need for Speed Most Wanted(new one)
Splinter Cell Conviction(sadly only got it now)
Heroes 6
Starcraft 2+upcoming expo

Well and alot of others

Basically I like sandbox games like GTA 5, Saints Row 3. Some fps(quite few only), strategy like SC2, shogun etc. Some racing games/sport games. I actually mostly play games like Assassins creed on ps3, have all of them for my console. But could also play AC on PC, just would need a controller as I'm more used to play games like that with controllers.
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:42:16 PM

The truth is that you dont need a 680, or 3gigs of ram for 1920x1080p.
The GTX 670 is a great sweet-spot for high end gaming and you can save $100.
If you have cash and you are not on a budget go for the GTX 680 OR HD 7970 GHz Edition.
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:44:37 PM

Domke said:
Well if I would buy a new monitor lets say 1920x1080, the AMD one would be aight?
If not then geforce one

But aight, games:
Metro 2033
Saints Row 3
Guild Wars 2
CS:GO
Total War Shogun 2
Portal 2
Skyrim
GTA 5
Need for Speed Most Wanted(new one)
Splinter Cell Conviction(sadly only got it now)
Heroes 6
Starcraft 2+upcoming expo

Well and alot of others

Basically I like sandbox games like GTA 5, Saints Row 3. Some fps(quite few only), strategy like SC2, shogun etc. Some racing games/sport games. I actually mostly play games like Assassins creed on ps3, have all of them for my console. But could also play AC on PC, just would need a controller as I'm more used to play games like that with controllers.

as nun of those use Physx i say go for AMD
August 30, 2012 5:47:05 PM

timarp000 said:
The truth is that you dont need a 680, or 3gigs of ram for 1920x1080p.
The GTX 670 is a great sweet-spot for high end gaming and you can save $100.
If you have cash and you are not on a budget go for the GTX 680 OR HD 7970 GHz Edition.

Ok, so MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB PhysX CUDA, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz 3GB GDDR5 or gtx 670.
Which of gtx 670 are best compared to the others? MSi one aswell?
a b U Graphics card
August 30, 2012 5:59:25 PM

Domke said:
Ok, so MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB PhysX CUDA, Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz 3GB GDDR5 or gtx 670.
Which of gtx 670 are best compared to the others? MSi one aswell?

MSI GTX 670 Power Edition
EVGA GTX 670 FTW
Asus GTX 670 Direct CU II TOP
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