Any point in getting the 8350 over my oc'ed 8120?

[tomdabomb]

Hey guys, I was thinking about buying the FX 8350 as an upgrade from my 8120 which is oc'ed at 4.3ghz. Would I get a big improvement in general and gaming performance? I would also overclock it somewhat high. What sort of clocks would you be able to get out of the 8350?
Any answer would be great!
Thanks
-Tom

 

[jaguarskx]

I wouldn't bother upgrading unless you are going to get a substantial enough increase in performance. Therefore, I would wait for Steamroller.

I tend to skip generations. Still using a Q9450 and I'll either upgrade to Haswell or Broadwell.

 

[tomdabomb]

I wouldn't bother upgrading unless you are going to get a substantial enough increase in performance. Therefore, I would wait for Steamroller.

I tend to skip generations. Still using a Q9450 and I'll either upgrade to Haswell or Broadwell.

When is steamroller coming out? And would it use the same AM3 socket? I'll do some research now

 

[jaguarskx]

Steamroller will be released next year. Possibly Q1 2014, but nothing more concrete that I am aware of. It will be socket AM3+ since AMD announced last year that they are committed to socket AM3+ until 2015.

Despite being released a year from now I still don't recommend upgrading to Piledriver since the cost of a FX-8350 does not justify the performance increase from a FX-8150.

 

[bigj1985]

I would say no. Your performance gains would be so minimal I doubt you would even notice any type of real world impact. The performance gains for BD>PD is not veen in the range of "10-15%" as I see alot of people claim. 90% of the performance gain you see in charts is due to nothing more than a clock bump. Real gains are in the range of mayb %3 I believe and a slight inprovement in power consumption.

you wanna see some real gains sell the 8120 along with your MB; and then pick up a cheap Z77 1155 board for $75, a $22 hyper 212, and a $180 2500k and throw that bad boy up to 4.5 ghz. I can guarentee you would see gains there Lol.

 

[8350rocks]

The FX8350 is typically overclocked to a minimum of 4.6-4.8 GHz using air cooling. If you are willing to get a radiator and go all out, there are several out there who have it clocked over 5.0 GHz and I have seen stable benchmarks on chips as high as ~5.6 GHz (with all 8 cores operating, I have seen higher but they began deactivating cores to get there).

If you're getting 4.3 GHz out of yours, you may see some dramatic increase by gaining .5+ GHz clock speed...but it's up to you whether or not the $180 is worth it.

 

[RobCrezz]

you wanna see some real gains sell the 8120 along with your MB; and then pick up a cheap Z77 1155 board for $75, a $22 hyper 212, and a $180 2500k and throw that bad boy up to 4.5 ghz. I can guarentee you would see gains there Lol.

+1

 

[8350rocks]

I would say no. Your performance gains would be so minimal I doubt you would even notice any type of real world impact. The performance gains for BD>PD is not veen in the range of "10-15%" as I see alot of people claim. 90% of the performance gain you see in charts is due to nothing more than a clock bump. Real gains are in the range of mayb %3 I believe and a slight inprovement in power consumption.

you wanna see some real gains sell the 8120 along with your MB; and then pick up a cheap Z77 1155 board for $75, a $22 hyper 212, and a $180 2500k and throw that bad boy up to 4.5 ghz. I can guarentee you would see gains there Lol.

If he was going to buy a SB intel, the FX8350 compares very well against it...that would be foolish. He doesn't have a 8150 or 8170, he has a 8120. Why would he overhaul into a dead socket for similar performance he could get on a live socket without radically rebuilding?

 

[RobCrezz]

I would say no. Your performance gains would be so minimal I doubt you would even notice any type of real world impact. The performance gains for BD>PD is not veen in the range of "10-15%" as I see alot of people claim. 90% of the performance gain you see in charts is due to nothing more than a clock bump. Real gains are in the range of mayb %3 I believe and a slight inprovement in power consumption.

you wanna see some real gains sell the 8120 along with your MB; and then pick up a cheap Z77 1155 board for $75, a $22 hyper 212, and a $180 2500k and throw that bad boy up to 4.5 ghz. I can guarentee you would see gains there Lol.

If he was going to buy a SB intel, the FX8350 compares very well against it...that would be foolish. He doesn't have a 8150 or 8170, he has a 8120. Why would he overhaul into a dead socket for similar performance he could get on a live socket without radically rebuilding?

I disagree. Stock speeds, the 2500k is still a good amount faster, both overclocked on a modest air cooler and the 2500k would be an even bigger margin faster.

 

[8350rocks]

I would say no. Your performance gains would be so minimal I doubt you would even notice any type of real world impact. The performance gains for BD>PD is not veen in the range of "10-15%" as I see alot of people claim. 90% of the performance gain you see in charts is due to nothing more than a clock bump. Real gains are in the range of mayb %3 I believe and a slight inprovement in power consumption.

you wanna see some real gains sell the 8120 along with your MB; and then pick up a cheap Z77 1155 board for $75, a $22 hyper 212, and a $180 2500k and throw that bad boy up to 4.5 ghz. I can guarentee you would see gains there Lol.

If he was going to buy a SB intel, the FX8350 compares very well against it...that would be foolish. He doesn't have a 8150 or 8170, he has a 8120. Why would he overhaul into a dead socket for similar performance he could get on a live socket without radically rebuilding?

I disagree. Stock speeds, the 2500k is still a good amount faster, both overclocked on a modest air cooler and the 2500k would be an even bigger margin faster.

Not according to this:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1334412/amd-fx-8350-vs-i5-2500k

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-2500K-vs-AMD-FX-8350

http://click.hardforum.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pureoverclock.com%2FReview-detail%2Fcombo-review-amd-vishera-fx-8350-asus-crosshair-v-formula-z-rog%2F19%2F&id=1&match=1&source=none&destination=none

The 2500k doesn't win anything there...nobody with a brain at all would make that move.

 

[bigj1985]

I would say no. Your performance gains would be so minimal I doubt you would even notice any type of real world impact. The performance gains for BD>PD is not veen in the range of "10-15%" as I see alot of people claim. 90% of the performance gain you see in charts is due to nothing more than a clock bump. Real gains are in the range of mayb %3 I believe and a slight inprovement in power consumption.

you wanna see some real gains sell the 8120 along with your MB; and then pick up a cheap Z77 1155 board for $75, a $22 hyper 212, and a $180 2500k and throw that bad boy up to 4.5 ghz. I can guarentee you would see gains there Lol.

If he was going to buy a SB intel, the FX8350 compares very well against it...that would be foolish. He doesn't have a 8150 or 8170, he has a 8120. Why would he overhaul into a dead socket for similar performance he could get on a live socket without radically rebuilding?

I disagree. Stock speeds, the 2500k is still a good amount faster, both overclocked on a modest air cooler and the 2500k would be an even bigger margin faster.

Not according to this:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1334412/amd-fx-8350-vs-i5-2500k

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-2500K-vs-AMD-FX-8350

http://click.hardforum.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pureoverclock.com%2FReview-detail%2Fcombo-review-amd-vishera-fx-8350-asus-crosshair-v-formula-z-rog%2F19%2F&id=1&match=1&source=none&destination=none

The 2500k doesn't win anything there...nobody with a brain at all would make that move.

The cherry picked benchmarks you showed doesn't even take into account the 8350 is running at 4ghz wile the 2500k sits a good 600 Mhz slower. The 2500k can be taken to 4.3ghz with nothing other than a multiplier change. No voltage adjustments required.

With both running at 4ghz the i5 does dominate the FX no questions asked. In anything using 4 cores or less the lead the i5 takes is just silly. Meanwhile the FX will win by trivial amounts in multithreaded applications.

 

[8350rocks]

Everything I have ever read...reommends against going to an i5-2500k over a FX8350...especially if you already have an AMD.

What about the FX8350 @ 5.0+ GHz if we're overclocking? You can get 4.8 GHz out of the FX8350 on air...