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250Euros,PSU,GPU,CPUCOOLER

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October 27, 2012 6:17:43 AM

Hello,
Approximate Purchase Date:I will buy in 3th of november,not sure though , untill i find exactly parts

Budget Range: (250euros)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (gaming)

Buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: (psu,gpu,CpuFanCooler)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (newegg,amazoon,and cnix[But i need to make sure that they ship to Europe,Cyprus])

Location: Europe, I live in Cyprus ,in Nicosia city

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: I don't know what that is

Monitor Resolution: ( 1680x1050, )

Additional Comments: (I just have motherboard : g43twins-fullhd and i don't know if it supports ddr5 graphic cards, because im thinking of buying 560 ti or 560 and it's ddr5)

And Most Importantly, because my psu is broken .. )

I have
-Geforce GTX 260 nvidia,
-G43twins-fullhd motherboard,
-Intel cpu fan[the 10dollar one]
-Cpu 2.33ghz quad core[I will not change it :p ]
-Mushking 4GB Ram [Green line]
October 27, 2012 9:24:57 AM

SLI/CF is using multiple video cards in parallel. Generally a bad idea unless you can't find a single GPU that is powerful enough.

VRAM version makes no difference to mobo support. If it has a PCIe x16 slot chances are it will work.

Thermaltake PSUs are crap, and US links aren't going to help him/her much.

The 7870 is significantly more powerful than the 660 and costs much the same.
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October 27, 2012 11:09:19 AM

Someone Somewhere said:

Thermaltake PSUs are crap, and US links aren't going to help him/her much.

The 7870 is significantly more powerful than the 660 and costs much the same.


Who said Thermaltake PSUs are crap? If you found one failed model , it doesn't mean all are going to fail. Besides there are models that have got very high ratings from hardwaresecrets and jonnyguru and the OEM is the same.
The 7870 is more powerful than the 660 in compute performance but not in gaming
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6276/nvidia-geforce-gtx-6...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6276/nvidia-geforce-gtx-6...

@xmarioscy
the gpu will work on ur mobo
October 27, 2012 11:24:02 AM

Let me rephrase that: Thermaltake PSUs aren't particularly good.

Yes, but both those you linked are nVidia-optimized games. Of course they'll work better on a GeForce GPU (within reason).

If you look at the average performance on Toms' review the 7870 soundly beats the 660 (the Anandtech one didn't have and average table I could find) :
October 27, 2012 11:35:44 AM

So guys.. which spu i should take? and does 660 or 7850 or 560ti can be filled in my motherboard : g43twins-fullhd?and im thinking of buying a cheap power supply 212 plus or evo.. is it good?
October 27, 2012 11:39:07 AM

if u are not going to oc the cpu u are not going to need a cooler
October 27, 2012 11:40:08 AM

The 212+ and 212Evo are CPU coolers. You don't need them at all if not OCing (stock cooleris fine), though they are pretty good for their price.

Cheap PSUs are a pretty bad idea. I'd be looking at an Antec, Corsair, Z/ZT/ZS OCZ, PCP&C, newer Rosewill, Seasonic, or XFX. At least 450W.

EDIT: your mobo has a PCIe x16 slot, so should work fine with any of those GPUs. If getting the 560Ti you'll want at least a 550W PSU.
October 27, 2012 11:48:36 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Is this a good psu?And i think i need a cooler because atm i got gtx 260 and when i play games every single temperature is on 60+c and when im playing games it goes atleast 85c... that's why i need atleast a cpu fan cooler for better temps..
October 27, 2012 11:51:56 AM

That's a good PSU.

You may need to reapply thermal paste, as it can start to dry out after long periods of time. You shouldn't need an aftermarket cooler though.
October 27, 2012 11:59:57 AM

yeah but i wanna buy it because i have an intel fan which is 10dollars , it's not good , at the start i bought the pc i had one gaming zalman one which was rly good and my pc wasn't getting hot ,untill i replaced this one and it started getting hot..so that's why i need new cpufan cooler... anyways... i want a lil cheaper graph card than gtx 660 and 7850,shall i get the 560 ti or 560 or something else that is almost same money with 560 but better?
October 27, 2012 12:05:04 PM

Why did you replace the zalman cooler with a worse one? If you still have it get some thermal paste and put it back on.

You could get the 1GB 7850.
October 27, 2012 12:05:43 PM

Hmm kk.btw 7850 1gb is better than 560 ti or 560?
October 27, 2012 12:15:41 PM



The 560 is somewhere below there. Remember that the 560&560Ti are last gen GPUs and use more power, so you need a bigger PSU.
October 27, 2012 12:40:35 PM

well..600watt corsair is ok?and out of 600watts,i will use around 400?
October 27, 2012 12:47:14 PM

Somewhere around there. Note that it will only use that much at times of high load (eg gaming). PSUs do degrade over time though, so after a few years of hard work you only really want to use it for maybe 450W.
October 27, 2012 1:06:44 PM

sorry for late reply
Someone Somewhere said:

Yes, but both those you linked are nVidia-optimized games. Of course they'll work better on a GeForce GPU (within reason).

If you look at the average performance on Toms' review the 7870 soundly beats the 660 (the Anandtech one didn't have and average table I could find) :
http://media.bestofmicro.com/T/W/352292/original/AVG%20Perf%20HIGH.png


On more closer inspection, it's only dirt showdown that takes a huge lead (since its amd gcn optimized) and the reason why avg game perf. percentage of 7870 is so high.
I wouldn't depend on the perf. of a single game and that too a racing game for graphics performance
This is a more general performance list:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php


Someone Somewhere said:
Let me rephrase that: Thermaltake PSUs aren't particularly good.

Still not good. If u told that there is no review on that particular model i suggested, i would have still agreed. Out of 66 reviews on thermaltake psu's from trusted sites, there is only one fail review, half of other reviews are recommended models, remaining are neutral reviews.



Better than that is the thermaltake tpx-575m since it has 48A on +12V rail compared to 46A of corsair. The +12V rail supplies power to most of the system.
October 27, 2012 1:33:21 PM

Actually, I can't find a review of either of them. I don't like to recommend a PSU without a review unless it comes from a pretty trusted brand eg Corsair.

Maybe I should start adding thermaltake PSUs to my list of good brands. Still not convinced though.
October 27, 2012 2:47:06 PM

Someone Somewhere said:
Actually, I can't find a review of either of them. I don't like to recommend a PSU without a review unless it comes from a pretty trusted brand eg Corsair.

Maybe I should start adding thermaltake PSUs to my list of good brands. Still not convinced though.


Corsair is a good brand no doubt. Seasonic and CWT are mostly the OEMs of Corsair. And the thermaltake psu i suggested has CWT as its OEM.

@xmarioscy
Here is a list of gpu's u might want to look at in increasing price and performance order.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-r77702pmd1g...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-01gp31461k...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-01gp43652k...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-01gp31561a...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-fx785aznfc
October 27, 2012 6:17:17 PM

ok guys thx for the help a lot ! <3
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