AMD one or Intel one?

[white90dragon]

AMD
MB: AM3+ 970 MSI 970A-G46 - 59e
CPU: Phenom™ II X4 965 - 81e
GPU:
PSU: Seasonic 500ET - 60e
HDD: SATA3 7200rpm 1TB Western Digital - 67e
RAM: 2x4GB 1600MHz - 31e
CASE: CM Elite 430 - 43e
DVD/RW: 15e
Keyboard: 9e

Total: 365e and some GPU that you would suggest for 100-135e or little more
100e = 121$ ; 135e = 164$

INTEL
MB: B75 - 60e
CPU: i5-3450 - 160e
GPU: HD2500 (upgrade after 3-6 months to better one)
PSU: Seasonic 500ET - 60e
HDD: SATA3 7200rpm 1TB Western Digital - 67e
RAM: 2x4GB 1600MHz - 31e
CASE: CM Elite 430 - 43e
DVD/RW: 15e
Keyboard: 9e

Total: 445e as you can see that in this one (Intel) i will be stuck with IGP.. but with AMD i will be able to achieve good performance depending on GPU.
I was considering 6870 for 122e and maybe 7850 1GB for 148e.

*Which one is more future proof?
*I will mostly do gaming(and recording) at 1280x1024p until i get 1080p (i consider this for AMD build)
*As for Intel build when i get money i will only be able to get graphic card and not monitor.
**Post suggestion's : everything is helpful.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

neither is future proof.

 

[IamJJJ]

Well, the performance of the i5 beats the AMD, but if your gaming and recording gaming it would ultimately come down to the graphics card. I think the 7850 would work well in your AMD system. If you use Intels IGP you won't get very good frame-rates while recording and will have to play at low settings. As for future proof... I'd go with AMD. AMD may be coming out with new Steamroller architecture CPU's for the AM3+ Socket but may also make a new socket for it. So neither is very future proof in my opinion. Also, after everything said and done, the Intel will come out more expensive than the AMD (about 100e more). Also if you want HD gaming and such you will definitely need a 1080p monitor so if you go with the AMD build and have $$$ leftover you can buy a new monitor down the road. Conclusion - If your using this mostly for gaming/recording, get the AMD build with the 7850.

 

[malbluff]

Obviously, in the short term, the AMD build would give better gaming than i5, although, in the long run, i5 would be better than the AMD, once you've added GPU. It should be appreciated (assuming that's a Black Ed. Phenom) you would need to add an aftermarket cooler, and overclock, to get reasonable performance.
I'm not necessarily saying this is the way to go, but worth considering. Intel cores are much more efficient than AMD cores. Most games only use single core, or dual. Even with an overclocked Phenom, you can get better gaming performance, in most games, using dual core Ivybridge i3, than quad core Phenom. An ALTERNATIVE way to go would be i3-3220 and H77 mobo, which would cost less than Phenom and AM3+ mobo, and give better performance, with same GPU, in most games. It should be said, it wouldn't necessaraly be better is multi-player, in some games, that use multi-core for that, like BF3.
If using i3, and a GPU like HD7850, you could use a 500w PSU, which would help towards costs.

 

[CustomPc]

ok listen i wouldn't really rely on those i can get you a good pc build for 650$ if you'd like I will post the specification this pc is good for Gaming/ Or just for home use

CPU Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor $119.99

CPU Cooler SilenX EFZ-120HA5 86.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler $32.99

Motherboard ASRock H77 Pro4-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $89.99

Memory G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $39.99

Storage Hitachi 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $58.84

Video Card Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card $199.99

Case Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case $54.99

Power Supply Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply $55.99

Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $19.99



Total: $669.71

 

[malbluff]

That would be OK, although don't see point of aftermarket cooler on i3. Would be fairly good, assuming OP can make $600+

 

[Wisecracker]

AMD. 'Nuff said.

With the MSI 970A-G46 AM3+, there are 133 (and counting) CPUs approved for your motherboard. MSI is really good at supporting their motherboards. Steamroller core support would be icing on the cake.

That said, buy a Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 AM3+ if one is available to you :lol:

You may also wish to consider DDR3-1866 or -2133 if it works in your budget. By this time next year, at a minimum, on the cheap, you will be able to upgrade to a Piledriver FX-8350 Vishera, and decide on a higher-end Sea Islands Radeon 8xxx-series (after 9 months of price drops).

And I think you also answered your own question -- that is, if you want a new monitor.

 

[white90dragon]

Thank you all and i will go with AMD system because in future i can get HD monitor. How much will phenom II x4 965 last for games? maybe 2 years? and is it good to get 6870 1gb or 7850 1gb? difference is 35e and 7850 2gb is i think 50e more than 6870. Cani get something more cheaper from build i post. Every euro is important.
MB: AM3+ 970 MSI 970A-G46 - 59e
CPU: Phenom™ II X4 965 - 81e
GPU:
PSU: Seasonic 500ET - 60e
HDD: SATA3 7200rpm 1TB Western Digital - 67e
RAM: 2x4GB 1600MHz - 31e
CASE: CM Elite 430 - 43e
DVD/RW: 15e
Keyboard: 9e

 

[Outlander_04]

dont buy the phenom

get an Fx 4300 or FX 6300 instead

 

[malbluff]

If you are going the AMD route, they do use more power. If you want scope to have a "free choice", when it comes to upgrading GPU, or CPU, suggest you use 550w power supply. XFX are very good, or Antec Basiq has a modular 550w version. Either would be cheaper, than the Seasonic. As you probably suspect 1GB HD7850 is slightly better than HD6870, the 2GB version slightly better again. If going for the HD 6870, you definitely need to up PSU rating. You could save money by using Caviar Blue, or Seagate for HDD, but neither is as good as the Caviar Black, the Blue in terms of performance, Seagate in terms of reliability/warranty.

 

[white90dragon]

What you mean i need to up PSU? isn't 500W enough? I want to ask one simple question if someone got like 4850/5850/6850/7850 crossfired does they can play newer games? i mean does AMD still make drivers for old crossfire setups like 4850/6850? Just curious about this question. I know it will need more power but does crossfire of 6870's beats 7870? I also saw tons of motherboards that supports Crossfire but it says something like this: Crossfire support: Yes (x8,x4) something like that. I saw this motherboard when i was thinking of Intel build and there in site it says 1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 Slot, Supports AMD Quad CrossFireX™, CrossFireX™ as you can see. Does dual/quad CrossFireX setup got full bandwith on that board? because i was maybe thinking on crossfire. thanks

 

[malbluff]

Firstly on PSU.
AMD processors and Radeon cards, both use more power, than "equivalent" Intel processors and nVidia cards.
The latest series of both Radeon and nVidia cards use less power than the "equivalent" cards, in the previous series.
So: The lowest power consumption would be Intel and the latest nVidia cards. 450w may be adequate.
The highest power consumption would be AMD processor and a last generation Radeon Card. 500w would be adequate, for most, but, if you use a card like HD6870, and overclock, 500w would, at best, be borderline, and you should increase to 550w PSU, to allow a sensible safe margin.

For a single monitor, it is always best to get the most potent, single, graphics card, you can afford. That card may, or may not, come from the current generation (depends how much price has dropped on old cards)

When it comes to motherboards, most will give some support to 2 Radeon cards, in crossfire. Less give support for 2 nVidia cards, in SLi.
With the better boards, when you have two graphics cards fitted, bandwidth will be shared 2 @ x8. On more basic boards, bandwidth is not shared, and the 2nd slot will only run @ x4. That doesn't mean crossfire, or SLi won't work. It just means it won't perform as well. If you are never likely to add a 2nd card, the performance, in SLi/crossfire is irrelevant. If you do plan, or may add, a 2nd card, you should check mobo specs, to at least be aware what support is given. Normally, if it says 3 way, or quad support, that will mean that the first two slots, at least, will share bandwidth. I'm not sure you can say that's 100% guaranteed, so always check the detailed specs.