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October 27, 2012 9:05:17 PM

My first time building a PC mainly for game development and everyday use some gaming etc etc

Approximate Purchase Date:If everything goes as planned probably This monday(oct 29) I'll be getting the case and the following friday(nov 2) or saturday(nov 3) I'll get everything else.

is this build looking good for the money? or can i do better for an equivalent price or lower price? I'm open to any tips/suggestions that will better the build.

Budget Range: $382 After Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: game development, Programming, Graphic design(,pixel art,other forms of 2d digital art,if i do 3d work it will probably be low poly 3d art) surfing the internet, Gaming(not heavy 3d),watching movies,burning CD/s-DVD/s, etc

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts:
Processor:AMD A8-3850 Llano 2.9GHz Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$94.99

MOBO:ASRock A75M FM1 AMD A75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$74.99

Memory:G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$36.99

HDD:SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD322GJ/U 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
(Note: will be adding more hdd's in the near future)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$59.99

Optical Drive:LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$15.99

PSU:Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$35.99

Case:Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$39.99

Do you need to buy OS:No,Already have Ubuntu 10.04(may change it to 64bit though to support the extra ram)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:newegg.com(if you have a better place with lower prices,than i'm open.)

Location: Williamston,NORTH CAROLINA, USA

Parts Preferences: Amd for cpu since i'm on a budget.

Overclocking:No

SLI or Crossfire:Neither

Grand Total:$374.14


Additional Comments:
Software:p hotoshop CS, Graphics Gale,Code::Blocks ide,Audacity(all i can think of at the moment)

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October 27, 2012 10:16:26 PM

hey buddy i really got tired just because i wanted to help you i wish that will help ;) 

Case: Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel. ($39.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS FM2 AMD A75. ($54.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU : AMD A6-5400K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo). ($74.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: ASUS Radeon HD 7750 1GB. ($97.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB). ($38.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200 RPM. ($54.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W. ($34.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R. ($17.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

♣ Total = $415
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October 27, 2012 10:25:57 PM

You could probably get away with a CX430 on that one to save money ^
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October 27, 2012 10:37:22 PM

Deemo13 said:
You could probably get away with a CX430 on that one to save money ^

yea you are right i will edit it up now
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October 28, 2012 12:44:15 AM

mrdowntownkiller said:
hey buddy i really got tired just because i wanted to help you i wish that will help ;) 

Case: Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel. ($39.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS FM2 AMD A75. ($54.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU : AMD A6-5400K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo). ($74.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: ASUS Radeon HD 7750 1GB. ($97.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB). ($38.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200 RPM. ($54.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W. ($34.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R. ($17.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

♣ Total = $415


Hey. thanks, i changed the old case out with the one you have on your list.shaved like 10 bucks off.

But will a dedicated GPU really be necessary? instead of the quad core APU i already have? im not going to be dealing with heavy 3d(probably no 3d graphics at all) or any demanding games(I'll be using a game console for now)
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October 28, 2012 1:32:41 AM

here's my $400 suggestion. I assume you don't need an OS or Monitor in that budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE2 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 3 90GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $396.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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October 28, 2012 2:42:16 AM

Pentium > APU in terms of CPU power, as shown in tests from the people at Tomshardware. It would also be cheaper, and you can get a cheaper motherboard (since you're not overclocking) so you could use the saved money to buy a better graphics card. Win-Win baby! :D 

The motherboard below has USB 3.0, as well as SATA III, features that are found for $10 more if you went with an APU.

The PSU below is Seasonic made, and is better quality than the CX 430, although the CX is a good choice if you're on a tight budget. The CX 430 is better for lower end GPU's.

If you went with a Pentium build (again, better CPU) you could get a much better graphics card than the built in one. I'd say go for a 7770 GHz edition.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lENo
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lENo/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lENo/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Pentium G630 2.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ECS B75H2-M3(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($50.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($46.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $402.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Much better choice.

On the other hand, if you wanted more processing power, you could go with an i3 and a still decent GPU.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lEPx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lEPx/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lEPx/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ECS B75H2-M3(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($50.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 6670 1GB Video Card ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $390.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

For this build, the GPU is still better than the one built into the A10, and if you're not gaming very much, the i3 beats out the A10 in just about everything.

Don't want to seem like an Intel fanboy but, AMD's kinda getting pounded on the CPU side of things :p 
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October 28, 2012 2:53:37 AM

I like both of sonicers' builds except for the PSU in the second one. The 430W Corsair CX is built by Channel Well, and uses some Samxon capacitors from an inferior line known to fail; it starts out fine, but may not last.
I suspect CPU power will be relatively important in this build, so the second build is the better of the two IMHO.
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October 28, 2012 4:00:31 AM

Onus said:
I like both of sonicers' builds except for the PSU in the second one. The 430W Corsair CX is built by Channel Well, and uses some Samxon capacitors from an inferior line known to fail; it starts out fine, but may not last.
I suspect CPU power will be relatively important in this build, so the second build is the better of the two IMHO.


I said the CX 430 wasn't as good, but yeah, it'll do if he uses a lower end GPU.


Hiii, as long as its GDDR5 and is a 6670, there won't be much of a difference. There aren't any (that I know of) factory overclocked 6670's, and if you're going to get a 2GB card (IF you were to) , you probably shouldn't be getting a 6670.
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October 28, 2012 12:52:57 PM

That MSI HD6770 would be a great choice.
It might go over a little, but using that GPU with a Seasonic PSU (or the Antec VP-450, which isn't 80+ only because it doesn't have active PFC; it is efficient enough) would be an excellent budget build.
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October 28, 2012 1:28:29 PM

Woah, just realised it was a 6770 and not a 6670, lol. I didn't know about the Antec VP-450 before, but turns out, it's a great power supply. Go with jtt283's PSU, your MSI 6770, and you've got a great build, with a really nice upgrade path should you later want to go up to an i3 or i5.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Antec VP-450 is on sale right now for $40. If you're tight on money, it'll be a good alternative should you not need the extra wattage.

The Antec Neo Eco does NOT come with a power cord, you'll have to use your old one. Antec thinks not including a power cord and you having to reuse your old one is more 'eco friendly.' However, it is a more reasonable choice because $7 is not a big difference. Power cords are no different, you could use a generic one from amazon or your old one, or a fancy new one, they'd all be the same.

Good luck on your build!

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October 28, 2012 3:30:53 PM

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October 28, 2012 3:32:28 PM

sonicers said:
Woah, just realised it was a 6770 and not a 6670, lol. I didn't know about the Antec VP-450 before, but turns out, it's a great power supply. Go with jtt283's PSU, your MSI 6770, and you've got a great build, with a really nice upgrade path should you later want to go up to an i3 or i5.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Antec VP-450 is on sale right now for $40. If you're tight on money, it'll be a good alternative should you not need the extra wattage.

The Antec Neo Eco does NOT come with a power cord, you'll have to use your old one. Antec thinks not including a power cord and you having to reuse your old one is more 'eco friendly.' However, it is a more reasonable choice because $7 is not a big difference. Power cords are no different, you could use a generic one from amazon or your old one, or a fancy new one, they'd all be the same.

Good luck on your build!


Alright thanks alot guys, I'll probably be switching over to intel i guess...i knind of did what a quad core though lol. but oh well.
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October 28, 2012 4:19:04 PM

If you want quad-core, you can get any of the current i3's or an i5 later on, when you have more money. The Pentium outdoes the Phenom now, and the i3 will rape it later.
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October 28, 2012 4:39:13 PM

Send a direct link, please. If you send me YOUR shopping cart, all I can see is MY shopping cart.
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October 28, 2012 5:31:53 PM

the link to the actual processor, lol, still can't see it, as it's YOUR wishlist.
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October 28, 2012 5:55:23 PM

Im just gonna go ahead with the amd based build. because im on a tight budget plus i can always add a dedicated gpu later on anyway. thanks for all the help though!
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October 29, 2012 1:13:34 AM

I suggest you get the Antec VP-450 over the CX 430, it'll last longer, and is a tier higher on the PSU tier list.

Also, when you get a discrete graphics card, make SURE you get the HD 6670, it's the best graphics card you can crossfire with the APU, and the APU+6670 will bring your performance up to HD 6850 level.

Good luck!
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October 29, 2012 5:15:32 PM

sonicers said:
I suggest you get the Antec VP-450 over the CX 430, it'll last longer, and is a tier higher on the PSU tier list.

Also, when you get a discrete graphics card, make SURE you get the HD 6670, it's the best graphics card you can crossfire with the APU, and the APU+6670 will bring your performance up to HD 6850 level.

Good luck!


Yup i'll be sticking with that PSU.
K will do, thanks for all the help.
Ordering the case today, and i'll order everything else this weekend.
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October 29, 2012 8:19:11 PM

You can't crossfire a 7750, you can only crossfire a 6670. Ok, I'm done. Lol
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