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October 28, 2012 12:56:59 AM

I'm actually re-posting this because I place in the wrong section of the forum... :( 
Well, here are the components I'm planning on purchasing for my first gaming system.
Any comments and opinions are appreciated as this is the first time i am building a gaming computer.

Note: I do not plan on overclocking my desktop, since i heard there are risk :o ...which I'm not willing to take.

Computer Parts:

Processor
i5-3570

CPU FAN/COOLER
COOLERMASTER HYPER 212 EVO

Motherboard
MSI Z77A-G41 Z77 1155 4xDDR3 RAID SATA3 USB3 HDMI ATX Motherboard

VGA- GRAPHICS CARD
ASUS 2GB 7850 PCI-E

RAM
8GB KIT 1600 (4GB x 2) G.SKILL ARES $47

SSD
SSD: OCZ AGILITY 4 64GB

Internal Storage
Seagate 3.5" Barracuda 1TB ST31000DM003 SATA3 7200RPM 64MB HDD

PSU
CX 600 V3

Optical Drive
Samsung SATA 22x Black DVD RW

Case
Antec 900

Monitor
ASUS 21.5" VE228H 5ms 1920x1080 SPK HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor

Accessories
Keyboard
Roccat ISKU ILLUMINATED
Mouse
Roccat KOVA [+]
Mouse pad
ROCCAT SENSE ADRENALINE

Also, my budget for this gaming system is 1300. Already, all of this cost about 1300 dollars.

Thankyou, Me
October 28, 2012 1:19:47 AM

If you don't plan to overclock, that's fine, but there's also no real need for an aftermarket CPU cooler either (unless where you live is typically very hot?). The standard cooler that comes with it will work fine in most cases. That said, unless you're getting the z77 mobo because of some sort of deal w/ RAM (which I've seen recently from Newegg), you won't need that. It doesn't hurt at all, and keeps you open for the future if you decide to get a 3570k CPU sometime. Also, if you are getting a discrete video card, which it looks like you are, you shouldn't need a 3570 CPU. It's not like it has Intel HD Graphics 4000 (and even if it did, you have a discrete card anyway)- a 3450 should be fine. It's just a little slower, but that won't make or break anything your system is capable of either.

Rather, get a i5-3470: it's a bit cheaper than the 3450 from some online merchants and not quite as slow (comparatively speaking). Also, if you're only getting a Radeon 7850, you probably just need something between 500-600w, unless your extras draw quite a bit more power.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lEmn

I've modified the build a bit (also didn't include any accessories, other than the monitor and a copy of Windows 7 if you needed it). At the moment, before the accessories, it's just about $1105 before rebates, and you'll save $40 with the rebates when they go through. I'm not familiar with your accessories and how much they'll cost, so I didn't make too many alterations- the main ones being the CPU, Motherboard, PSU, and the SSD (128GB Vertex 4 instead of the 64GB Agility 4). It'd be pretty easy to upgrade to a XFX 7870 Ghz Edition for only an additional... $20 or so? You could even save more money by switching the motherboard to a B75 edition rather than a H77 like I have in the build, giving you the cash to upgrade the GPU to the GTX 660 or Radeon 7870 if you want to.
a b 4 Gaming
October 28, 2012 2:07:04 AM

^+1 to him. Though there's not really much difference between the i5-3450 and 3470; anndd the 3570k. The only point of getting the K is for OC.

Just get the cheapest locked CPU you can see.
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October 28, 2012 2:35:52 AM

Thanks for checking out my build and modifying it for me. But the problem is some of the items you mention, i can't seem to find it at the store i'm planning to purchase it from.
Such as the motherboard, power supply and graphics card.

The store where i'm planning on purchasing all of my computer parts.
http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf
- MSY
The accessories such as my keyboard, mouse and mouse pad already cost a total of ($148) if you're wondering.

And i live in Australia so it's fairly hot during the summer. And summer is coming up. So i would like to invest in a CPU cooler.

Thankyou, Me
October 28, 2012 2:46:27 AM

Ah... I did not know that. That kinda throws a few things out the window then, so let's see what can be done. So yeah, a CPU cooler would definitely be a good idea. A Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo is $35 AUS on the form you linked to, so that would should be what you need there.

Let's go ahead and switch the mobo with the ASRock b75 Pro3m ($75). It's even cheaper than the one I posted before. The video card equivalent could be the 2G 7850 Gigabyte OC model ($219, the same price as the one I had in the build from earlier). The PSU could be the Corsair CX 500 v3 at $79, which basically takes the savings from the mobo switch.

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a b 4 Gaming
October 28, 2012 2:46:42 AM
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Should've mentioned you're from AU then. :p 
Also, do you plan on adding another card for SLI/CF in the future?

Here you go, an AU revision if you don't mind buying from other stores.
I included a much more powerful GPU as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($105.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($255.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($115.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($145.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 3-Pack (64-bit) ($99.00 @ Scorptec)
Total: $1287.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
October 28, 2012 3:10:11 AM

Yep! I'm going with this build xD
Thank You so much!!! I appreciate you time. :D 

And SLI/CF? Does that mean like 2 graphics card or something? O.O

I'm just going to stick with this Graphics card, and i was wondering how long before should i invest in a better one? 2-3years?
October 28, 2012 3:12:47 AM

Yeah, SLI/Crossfire is basically linking 2 or more video cards together. And to answer the next question, it depends on several factors- one being how much higher the game requirements get, your monitor's resolution in the future, and the like. However, 2 years sounds like a safe bet before something that completely blows away a Radeon 7870 comes out... don't quote me on that though, because it may simply take the next series of video cards to manage it.
October 28, 2012 3:32:24 AM

excella1221 said:
^+1 to him. Though there's not really much difference between the i5-3450 and 3470; anndd the 3570k. The only point of getting the K is for OC.

Just get the cheapest locked CPU you can see.



Hi there im just wondering, because i have this build of mines that I build about 1 year ago and now all the parts I have I think are an average oldish.. and im just hoping if you could help me out with it. Im just thinking of getting new parts. Below are my parts at the moment.

But im thinking of getting these: MOTHERBOARD: MSI Z77 MPOWER $228.00, OR A Gigabyte G1 Sniper M3 Motherboard 189.00, OCZ VERTEX 4 128GB $150.00 AND EITHER A NOCTUA U12P-SE2 $72 OR A CORSAIR HYDRO SERIES H100 $145 AND FOR THE GRAPHICS CARD I THINK THAT WILL BE FINE FOR NOW. ALSO JUST SOME CASE FANS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD GET OR DO? I'M FROM AU, ADELAIDE


CPU: i7 2600K SANDY BRIDGE
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS P8Z68 V LX
GRAPHICS CARD: ASUS GTX 570 DIRECT CU II
CASE: NZXT PHANTOM USB 3.0 FULL TOWER
CPU COOLER: ANTEC KUHLER H2O 920
PSU: CORSAIR HX 750W
INTERNAL DRIVE: 2T SEAGATE BARRACUDA GREEN
OPTICAL DRIVE: SATA DVD LG
MONITOR: 24” 2ms Asus VS248H
RAM: 8G Kit 1600 G.Skill Ripjaws-X


THANK YOU :D 
a b 4 Gaming
October 28, 2012 3:46:50 AM

They still look good to me. I personally won't upgrade yet from that.

Though yes, an SSD would be very nice.. but $150 for a Vertex 4 128gb? Where are you from?

Don't bother with the H100 or any closed loop water coolers. High-end air coolers that are cheaper pretty much match their performances.

570, I believe is around the performance of a GTX 660/Ti or a 7850/7870?
That's still a great performance range as well.

P.S - You might be reprimanded for hijacking someone else's thread. It's best to just make your own.
October 28, 2012 3:59:44 AM

My bad, the SSD was actually $105.00. So from my understanding now I would just leave it be for now but just get if the SSD if im wanting to? Oh and sorry for hijacking the thread, didnt know*. Thanks for your opinions. :) 
a b 4 Gaming
October 28, 2012 4:05:12 AM

Pretty much, yah.
You can opt to add in a 2nd 570 for SLI if you want more fps power.
October 29, 2012 10:31:20 AM

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October 31, 2012 2:38:51 PM

excella1221 said:
Should've mentioned you're from AU then. :p 
Also, do you plan on adding another card for SLI/CF in the future?

Here you go, an AU revision if you don't mind buying from other stores.
I included a much more powerful GPU as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($105.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($255.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($115.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($145.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 3-Pack (64-bit) ($99.00 @ Scorptec)
Total: $1287.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


Hi excella1221,
I only have one last question before i go off and buy my computer parts soon.
Would the Corsair CX 500 v3 Power Supply have the same performance to the one you suggested (Silverstone)? And also, would it be compatible with my build? Because i dont plan on buying any of my computer parts online. And the silverstone does not sell at my local 'computer part shop'.

Thankyou, Me
a b 4 Gaming
October 31, 2012 3:10:43 PM

For a CX series, I suggest you get the 600w version if it's available.
November 1, 2012 6:16:18 AM

excella1221 said:
For a CX series, I suggest you get the 600w version if it's available.


Idm investing in one of the following...
Corsair CMPSU-600CXV3 600Watt 80Plus Bronze $95
or
Corsair TX-650 $111
or
Corsair HX-650 $131
or
Corsair HX-650 $147
a b 4 Gaming
November 1, 2012 6:19:51 AM

TX and HX are generally known to be efficient PSU lines, so get any of those.
I would just get the cheapest one.
!