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October 28, 2012 3:37:42 AM

Hello everyone, I am starting a new build mostly for work but I love to game and always like to build focused on gaming.

I've been gone for a long time from the gaming industry, so I am happy with basics (no over-cloaking or tweaking) but extremely smooth looking graphics.

I do photoshop and programming as well.

I will build from Scratch, everything that goes inside the case.

Here is what I am looking at :
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Approximate Purchase Date: Few weeks or maybe a month or two.

Budget Range: $2,000usd Flexible

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Work, Gaming, Multi Tasking

Are you buying a monitor: Yes but is not included in the budget
*** Monitor - Asus VK278Q ($335)* or VE278Q ($300)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: neweeg, and microcenter

Parts Preferences: AMD & ATI

Overclocking: NO

SLI or Crossfire: NO

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I would like for it to be quiet, not hot and low energy consumption.

This is what I have so far.

*** CPU - FX-8150 ($180)*
http://www.microcenter.com/product/375764/FX_8150_Black...

*** Motherboard - CH 990FX ($235)*
http://www.microcenter.com/product/375391/Crosshair_V_F...

*** RAM Memory - 8 GB DDR3 ($63) or 16 GB DDR ($126)*
http://www.microcenter.com/product/387518/Vengeance_8GB...


Thanks in advance.

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October 28, 2012 3:47:41 AM

You can't use an i5 3570k with a CH 990FX.

Is the photoshopping a professional job? Or just casual use.

Also, if you're not overclocking, you don't need the unlocked "K" chip processor.
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October 28, 2012 3:48:50 AM

Oh yeah about the motherboard, I prefer the AMD so went ahead and started to build based on that.

Photoshopping is casual but I will be stepping that up a little bit but not enough to kill a 2k budget system is my guess.

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October 28, 2012 4:08:38 AM

Go ahead with the i5-3570. Considering you are not over clocking, you don't need the k version.

Don't go with an overkill board, that will be used for over clocking, as you are not.

You could go with the Radeon 7970, very good card.

For your ram, 16gb will most likely be more than enough. Get 1600 mhz.

Can't really help you with psus, as i'm not the most experience.

Case, I would assume for a $2000 you would want a full atx. so http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Very good case with good airflow.
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October 28, 2012 4:09:01 AM

For best performance vs power you will have to go with Intel and Nvidea.

With Intel, you will need an Ivy Bridge processor, the most performance per watt. I'd go with the 3770K, a bit faster and if you want ten to fifteen percent better performance, it is available.

For a GPU, go for a Nvidea:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GV-N670WF2-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB for $370. Gigabytes have three fans so they run cool and quiet.

For a power supply probably a 650 or 750 watt supply will do. Get a gold or platinum one for greatest efficiency.

I'd go for a 128GB SSD and a two or three TB HDD.
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October 28, 2012 4:17:06 AM

lchrisk said:
Go ahead with the i5-3570. Considering you are not over clocking, you don't need the k version.

Don't go with an overkill board, that will be used for over clocking, as you are not.

You could go with the Radeon 7970, very good card.

For your ram, 16gb will most likely be more than enough. Get 1600 mhz.

Can't really help you with psus, as i'm not the most experience.

Case, I would assume for a $2000 you would want a full atx. so http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Very good case with good airflow.


Note the case, looks like a great one and thanks for the suggestion.

I want to point out that I am a 300% AMD guy, so will consider AMD at all times unless its actually mandatory to go for Intel.
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October 28, 2012 4:18:48 AM

babernet_1 said:
For best performance vs power you will have to go with Intel and Nvidea.

With Intel, you will need an Ivy Bridge processor, the most performance per watt. I'd go with the 3770K, a bit faster and if you want ten to fifteen percent better performance, it is available.

For a GPU, go for a Nvidea:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GV-N670WF2-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB for $370. Gigabytes have three fans so they run cool and quiet.

For a power supply probably a 650 or 750 watt supply will do. Get a gold or platinum one for greatest efficiency.

I'd go for a 128GB SSD and a two or three TB HDD.


I guess I will edit the main post and point out that I want to go for the AMD.

Thanks a lot for the suggestion but I owned about 4 ATI's in the past and I am already used and familiarized with them and looking to having another one for this build.
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October 28, 2012 4:21:52 AM

Not a problem. Intel Ivy Bridge will give you more performance at about half the power, but AMD needs support from fans like you badly.

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October 28, 2012 4:43:10 AM

If you REALLY want AMD, get the FX-8320. Thing is, only advantage it has over the Intel Ivy Bridges is its better performance in multi-threaded apps. Intel rules everything else including gaming.

But, AMD is now ahead in terms of GPUs. The 7970 Ghz Edition outperforms a GTX680 in most games. (The 680 gets better FPS in nVidia coded games.) Get the 7970 Ghz Edition.
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October 28, 2012 4:51:52 AM

Nw333 said:
If you REALLY want AMD, get the FX-8320. Thing is, only advantage it has over the Intel Ivy Bridges is its better performance in multi-threaded apps. Intel rules everything else including gaming.

But, AMD is now ahead in terms of GPUs. The 7970 Ghz Edition outperforms a GTX680 in most games. (The 680 gets better FPS in nVidia coded games.) Get the 7970 Ghz Edition.


What's the difference between 8320 and 8150?

Going to look at the GPU and add it to the list.

Thanks
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October 28, 2012 5:06:33 AM

No Fanboy but-
Intel>AMD in almost every aspect.
you can build a pretty powerful Intel build for $2k that will easily beat any amd rig.
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October 28, 2012 5:13:30 AM

strosdegoz said:
Note the case, looks like a great one and thanks for the suggestion.


+1 to the case.

strosdegoz said:
I want to point out that I am a 300% AMD guy, so will consider AMD at all times unless its actually mandatory to go for Intel.

What the hell is a "AMD guy" ? no offence bro but Intel is better than AMD in almost every aspect and when it comes to gaming,Intel beats any AMD cpu.
Now don't get me wrong,but spending $2k on a gaming rig and buying an AMD cpu is a very stupid thing to do.
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October 28, 2012 5:34:00 AM

@hellfire24, I am starting to see that.

AMD was the thing back in the days when I was deep into this.

So what's the best Intel CPU to go for?
So then a I can choose the motherbard, ram, gpu, etc.
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October 28, 2012 5:58:05 AM

The 8320 is newer technology and performs better, they are codenamed Vishera or Piledriver and the 8150 is its predecessor. (Actually its the 8120, only difference are clock speeds.)

Right now, the i5 3450 is the best bang for your buck when you arent OCing.
Only thing you'd have to change in your build is the motherboard since everything else should be compatible. Get an H77 one.
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October 28, 2012 6:30:37 AM

Nw333 said:
The 8320 is newer technology and performs better, they are codenamed Vishera or Piledriver and the 8150 is its predecessor. (Actually its the 8120, only difference are clock speeds.)

Right now, the i5 3450 is the best bang for your buck when you arent OCing.
Only thing you'd have to change in your build is the motherboard since everything else should be compatible. Get an H77 one.


Ok, I will go for the i5.

This is a really cheap processor aren't there any newer version of this one?

Something that is equivalent but the next thing?

The motherboard is also really cheap compared to the other one, remember I basically have unlimited budget but not looking to build the latest possible pc.

So something nice that can run anything but not 2013.
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October 28, 2012 6:32:55 AM

It will provide same performance (atleast unnoticable differences) with the other i5s. (except the 3570K overlclocked)

If you want, get an i7, but you will get ZERO performance boosts in games, but multi-threaded applications, yes. (At most 30%, the i7 is still a quad core after all.)

Just because its cheap doesnt mean its low quality. Thats called competitive pricing.
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October 28, 2012 6:56:39 AM

Okay, heres a build I made for you: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lFQH
+ Will max out any game out today
+ Overclocking is a possibility
+ Great cooler, silent too!
+ Sexy case. It can be changed if you dont like it.
- The cooler is big and bulky, can be replaced if wanted.

If you dont want to overclock, replace the 3570K with a 3470.
Not sure RAM is low profile, but if it isnt make sure to get the Low Profile ones to ensure the CPU cooler will fit.
The motherboard is an inch shorter of normal ATX boards, but it is a nice and quality board. If you want a different one, take a look the the Gigabyte Z77X D3H or Z77 UD3H.
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October 28, 2012 7:30:43 AM

Nw333 said:
Okay, heres a build I made for you: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lFQH
+ Will max out any game out today
+ Overclocking is a possibility
+ Great cooler, silent too!
+ Sexy case. It can be changed if you dont like it.
- The cooler is big and bulky, can be replaced if wanted.

If you dont want to overclock, replace the 3570K with a 3470.
Not sure RAM is low profile, but if it isnt make sure to get the Low Profile ones to ensure the CPU cooler will fit.
The motherboard is an inch shorter of normal ATX boards, but it is a nice and quality board. If you want a different one, take a look the the Gigabyte Z77X D3H or Z77 UD3H.


Thanks a lot.

Will study everything and do some research and modify according to my needs and taste.

Thanks again, this is really helpful.
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October 28, 2012 7:48:34 AM

See here : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lHHA

I changed the processor, and since I changed I am guessing that the cooler isn't needed anymore, added additional ram and removed the second video card as I think it would be just too much.

What you think?

How will this do?
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October 28, 2012 7:49:29 AM

Best answer selected by strosdegoz.
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October 28, 2012 8:19:14 AM

Get a cheap budget cooler like a Hyper 212 Evo, the stock fans on the i5 series are quite loud, and very inefficient. They do the job however, but I still recommend buying just a cheap heatsink to get it cooling well (An Evo does better by about 20 degrees celcius as compared to a stock heatsink, under load of course).

That case is very big, what ever floats your boat though. Look at my case, which is a HAF X, and very similar to size compared to a 932, and you can see my things barely take up 2/3 of the case. Its really big (Its close enough in comparison to the fact that the 932 side panel can be used on a HAF X)

You didn't add any ram.

A second 7970 is extremely overkill on a 60 hz 1080p monitor, however a 120hz monitor, not so much, as you'd want those frames anyways. I'm not sure what hz those monitors you are thinking about are, but just remember Res> Refresh rate (Subjective of course). You might want to consider getting something like, 1 *Korean* 2560x1440 IPS Panels, which would cost the same as one of those 1080p panels.

I would definitely recommend a second 7970GHZ if you do that.

Some Korean IPS monitors include (Look on Ebay, I really recommend the Crossover 27Q for around $370 from BigClothCraft, he has the best dead pixel policy (Maximum of 5, and its extremely hard to see a dead pixel on a screen with 4 million pixels).

I do like your changed build Stros, but you don't need an Asrock Z77 Extreme4 Board if you're not going to overclock. Get a H77 Pro3 from Asrock.

Overall, what I think you should get, since you are not factoring monitors into your budget. (Pretty much your build with extras)

i5 3470
Asrock H77 Pro4
Corsair Vengance Low Profile 1600MHZ 8GB
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
OCZ Vertex 256GB
2x Sapphire HD 7970
Corsair 500R/Coolermaster 932 (Whatever floats your boat, I prefer the 500R for cable management, and just a sexier case overall)
Corsair Professional 850W
Lite on DVD/CD Writer

This is the fun bit, which is your monitors.

You can get a 2560x1440 Korean Monitor, although there are some for $300 such as Achieva Shimians, these ones have a maximum of 5 Dead pixels like the crossover one

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/140743231738?ssPageName=STRK...

There are also the Crossover ones for $370, with much better quality, and stand.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/140743231738?ssPageName=STRK...

You can get one of those for roughly $300,

or one of the monitor you chose for $300 as well. The 2560x1440 look much better, and have much bigger screen real-estate, however if that other monitor you chose was 120hz, that would be superior for gaming (Lower input lag, and more fluid).

I had to edit some things, got you confused with some other person who was choosing three monitors, so I accidentally thought you wanted them too. My bad.


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October 28, 2012 8:29:44 AM

I really appreciate your suggestion but for the monitor I only have space for 1 where I have my pc located.

As for the motherboard did you mean Z77 Pro3?

As I don't see a H77 Pro3.

I did add 16GB of RAM.

I am not familiar with the case size either but I do know that you can get in trouble for not having enough space, so since I am completely ignorant on this, I go for the biggest possible, so your suggestion there is really appreciated as well.
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October 28, 2012 8:48:15 AM

Your PCPartpicker list still says (2x4GB), which is 8GB of ram.

Also, I meant the H77 Pro4, my bad for that.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

go ahead with case size, just know the case is huge, make sure you have enough room for it.

IMO, 16GB of ram isn't going to do much, especially for gaming, and also for light casual photoshopping and what not. Save yourself some dollars, and get yourself a really nice monitor.
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October 28, 2012 8:57:41 AM

JJ1217 said:
Your PCPartpicker list still says (2x4GB), which is 8GB of ram.

Also, I meant the H77 Pro4, my bad for that.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

go ahead with case size, just know the case is huge, make sure you have enough room for it.

IMO, 16GB of ram isn't going to do much, especially for gaming, and also for light casual photoshopping and what not. Save yourself some dollars, and get yourself a really nice monitor.


Check the cases and the 500R will definitely do it.

Full Tower is huge.

Monitor going for ASUS VE278Q, has faster response time and better refresh rate vs the Korean one you suggested and at the same price.
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October 28, 2012 9:02:59 AM

Ok, just remember 1440p looks MUCH better than 1080p. I saw one in action at my friends house, Battlefield 3 looked so much different, I was disappointed with it on 1080p, it didn't look THAT great, but 1440p was something different.

1920x1080= 2073600
2560x1440= 3686400

There are roughly 1.6 million moar pixels at 1440p. MOAR pixels FTW. Planning to get one of those Crossover 27Q's at Christmas, and probably get another two later on when the HD 8000's come out.

Also note, that 850W is supremely overkill for a single 7970, 650W would suffice. Considering you are getting a 120hz monitor, and have $700 left, you might as well get a second 7970, as you'll only be playing at 60-80 fps on most GPU intensive games, which wouldn't utilise your 120hz monitor. Just my two cents, but I really recommend it, since you are also going to get an 850W, which would be enough for two 7970's.

That 7970 is also a reference Cooler!! Big no no, as you generally pay more and its louder, and worse at cooling. THE ONLY REASON TO GET A REFERENCE COOLER AT THIS POINT IN TIME is either for watercooling, or if you have a small case!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This is like $70 cheaper and much much better. Same brand, best radeon makers. HEIL Sapphire.
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October 28, 2012 10:52:54 AM

Well, if hes going to get a 1440p 120Hz monitor, dont expect two 7970s to keep up 120 FPS.

And the H77 isnt built for dual cards. There is a mobo from Asus which supports Crossfire that is H77, but I would go Z77 just to be safe.

If he can get a Sapphire Vapor-X 7970 Ghz Edition, hey! Thats one very lucky buy. The 7970 suggested above is great aswell.
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October 28, 2012 11:35:22 AM

There aren't any 120hz 1440p monitors, and I never suggested it. The response time is simply too high for it to actually look good (2ms on the TN panels make it look good). The overclockable Yamakasi catleap 2b can be overclocked over 120hz, but its not worth it, and just a lottery like any other overclock.
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October 28, 2012 1:42:56 PM

Thanks again guys.

The best set up (motherboard and card), going for definitely 1 monitor and 1 card.
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October 28, 2012 1:51:37 PM

There arent any 1440p 120Hz monitors? Guess I better do some more search on monitors. :p 
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October 28, 2012 1:54:16 PM

Nw333 said:
There arent any 1440p 120Hz monitors? Guess I better do some more search on monitors. :p 


If my research wasn't short, for 27", there aren't any. Only in 3D
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October 28, 2012 1:57:19 PM

Monitors aint my specialty. xD
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October 28, 2012 2:00:25 PM

Nw333 said:
Monitors aint my specialty. xD


Ok then please suggest on the card, board and cooler if I am definitely going for 1 monitor and 1 card.

And disregard the budget, I don't mind spending $700 less, I just want a working pc that can play some games when I am not working.
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October 28, 2012 2:01:30 PM

So no OCing right?

Asrock H77 MVP/Pro4, as suggested by JJ.
Any non-reference 7970 (7970 Ghz Edition if you want)
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo, as suggested by JJ.
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October 28, 2012 2:05:36 PM

Nw333 said:
So no OCing right?

Asrock H77 MVP/Pro4, as suggested by JJ.
Any non-reference 7970 (7970 Ghz Edition if you want)
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo, as suggested by JJ.


Ok, I have all that now including the Ghz Edition.

Just for general knowledge, what's the meaning of non-reference?

Should lower the Power Supply as suggested as well, right?
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October 28, 2012 2:11:16 PM

Non-reference means having a custom cooler/PCB. (PCB is the board you see on the GPU)

Yep, get a 600W PSU instead. Those 7970s consume quite a lot of power.
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October 28, 2012 2:15:40 PM

Nw333 said:
Non-reference means having a custom cooler/PCB. (PCB is the board you see on the GPU)

Yep, get a 600W PSU instead. Those 7970s consume quite a lot of power.


And the 7970, is the best card at the moment?

There hasn't been a single doubt about that one.

SAPPHIRE 100351SR VS SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100351VXSR have a $100usd difference in Newegg, why the big gap?
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October 28, 2012 2:22:53 PM

Pretty much, the 7970 beats nVidia's flagship (the 680) so yeah. Best single GPU card at the moment.

The Vapor-X is very rare. It has a beast of a cooling system too. They are out of stock most of the time, though.
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October 28, 2012 3:58:34 PM

Those are two separate kits of RAM. The first kit is not low profile. Get a kit of 4x4GB of LOW PROFILE RAM. (There should be a letter combination of LP in the model name.)

The links keep changing because its a different build every time. :D 
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October 28, 2012 4:13:43 PM

Nw333 said:
Those are two separate kits of RAM. The first kit is not low profile. Get a kit of 4x4GB of LOW PROFILE RAM. (There should be a letter combination of LP in the model name.)

The links keep changing because its a different build every time. :D 


Thanks, again.

More general knowledge, why Low Profile?
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October 29, 2012 12:24:41 AM

Low Profile RAM means that the heatsinks are shorter, so the CPU cooler will fit for sure. There are clearance problems sometimes because of the tall heatsinks on sticks like the G.Skill RipJaws X.

You still have a lot of space in that budget, you can increase the size of the SSD to 256GB. It will be faster than the 128GB drive and it has more storage.

The link wouldnt stay the same as long as you keep changing the components :p 
You can save the build, but you wouldn't be able to change it any more (I think, lol)
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October 29, 2012 12:45:09 AM

Nw333 said:
Low Profile RAM means that the heatsinks are shorter, so the CPU cooler will fit for sure. There are clearance problems sometimes because of the tall heatsinks on sticks like the G.Skill RipJaws X.

You still have a lot of space in that budget, you can increase the size of the SSD to 256GB. It will be faster than the 128GB drive and it has more storage.

The link wouldnt stay the same as long as you keep changing the components :p 
You can save the build, but you wouldn't be able to change it any more (I think, lol)


I just checked my windows drive now and it is taking only about 50GB's which isn't much, then I can store everything else on the other drive.

You can save it and still edit and it will still change all the time.

I took a screen shot just in case and post it here as I record to be sure I don't have to start over, but not it would be easy thanks to you and all the information shared here.

I can't see how 128gb vs 256gb same specs, can one be faster than the other unless I am using most of the space.
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October 29, 2012 12:49:20 AM

You can put your games on there and expect load times to be faster.

The stuff inside the SSD will get more compressed because of more storage, like a Hard Drive.
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October 29, 2012 12:52:34 AM

strosdegoz said:
I just checked my windows drive now and it is taking only about 50GB's which isn't much, then I can store everything else on the other drive.

You can save it and still edit and it will still change all the time.

I took a screen shot just in case and post it here as I record to be sure I don't have to start over, but not it would be easy thanks to you and all the information shared here.

I can't see how 128gb vs 256gb same specs, can one be faster than the other unless I am using most of the space.



You need extra space for updates, cashes, etc. Also you want room for the game you are playing at the time. And SSD get real slow as they approach being full.
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October 29, 2012 1:07:43 AM

babernet_1 said:
You need extra space for updates, cashes, etc. Also you want room for the game you are playing at the time. And SSD get real slow as they approach being full.


Thanks, will update that and hopefully start buying on the first week of Nov.

I am not in the USA, so it's a bit harder for me to get the parts where I live.
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October 29, 2012 3:16:03 AM

Good luck and happy building!
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October 29, 2012 3:58:06 AM

I recommend two 128 GB SSD's instead of one 256GB, you won't be screwed over if they screw up. I also recommend the Samsung 830, the Vertex 4 has quite an unusually high failure rate. Get 2 128GB's over a single 256. You could even run Raid 0 if you wanted to.
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October 29, 2012 4:19:09 AM

^They fixed the Vertex 4. Doesnt fail as much.
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October 29, 2012 1:05:44 PM

Nw333 said:
^They fixed the Vertex 4. Doesnt fail as much.


"... as much", I need to get the best because I don't have a return policy here, once I get it that's it either if it works or not.
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