GTX 680 with 700W OCZ PSU
twisted_rb
hi im thinking of upgrading from GTX570 to GTX 680 and i have a 700w OCZ power supply is this a good enough psu? or would i need better?
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The 680 is a poor choice. Get the 670. About the same performance (you won't see a 2-5% difference when you're playing, trust me on that) at a much lower price.
Your PSU might actually be considered overkill in wattage, although I have known some OCZ models to be less reliable than many other brands. It should have enough 12v amperage, but I recommend that you check the 12V amperage to be sure. -
twisted_rb said:ok what is the fps difference between the 670 and 680? and my psu would be ok with both these GPU'S?
The two are almost identical in performance. The 670 uses considerably less power than the 680, but both can work just fine on much lower wattage PSUs than yours assuming that they have the 12v amperage for it. Unless you tell us the 12v amperage that your PSU has, we can't be sure that it is enough,, but I can say that it is almost definitely more than enough. Now, it's reliability is what worries me. Without knowing the model, it is a wild card that I don't trust. -
this is my psu and thanks for the help guys im just wanting a gpu that can run bf3 at 120fps on medium settings because i have a 120hz monitor!
http://www.ebuyer.com/152008-ocz-mxsp-series-700w-80-psu-modular-single-12v-rail-135mm-fan-ocz700mxsp -
unfortunately your power supply sucks-
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article/2008/11/12/ocz_700w_modxstream_pro_power_supply/9
grab a 750w and a 670 instead of 680 and faulty psu.670 OC'd beats/matches the performance of a 680/7970.i would suggest this-
psu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207015
video card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125423
performance data of the video card-
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/41973-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-670-windforce-3x/
note: this power supply has enough power to run 2x 670s in SLi so don't worry about future upgrading.
EDIT: 2500k is a very capable cpu and will not cause any problems.
problem solved -
hellfire24 said:unfortunately your power supply sucks-
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article/2008/11/12/ocz_700w_modxstream_pro_power_supply/9
grab a 750w and a 670 instead of 680 and faulty psu.670 OC'd beats/matches the performance of a 680/7970.i would suggest this-
psu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207015
video card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125423
note: this power supply has enough power to run 2x 670s in SLi so don't worry about future upgrading.
That PSU is a little more expensive than what I'd go for, but XFX is worth that much money. They're just re-branded Seasonic models from what I'm told and that's as good as PSU quality gets as far as I'm aware.
However, if OP has any multi-GPU plans, then I'd recommend AMD Radeon 7900 cards over Nvidia.
@OP
Do you have a preference for Nvidia cards? -
twisted_rb said:is it certain that my psu is bad because it cost me £80 and its 80 plus certified so i dont see what is wrong
The problem is that OCZ has a lot of unreliable PSUs. They have some pretty good ones, so they're a wild card. I wouldn't go as far as saying that it sucks without knowing the exact model because some OCZ PSUs are actually good, but some are very bad too, so I wouldn't trust it at least until you can give me an exact model number.
PSU quality goes beyond efficiency and wattage. Reliability matters too and some of OCZ's PSUs have some poor quality components that fail too easily and too messily (taking other components with them happens all too often). OCZ doesn't actually make their own PSUs, they simply re-brand PSUs from other companies, so some of them suck and some of them don't suck. -
what about this psu?
http://www.ebuyer.com/200490-coolermaster-gx-750w-psu-rs750-acaae3-uk -
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hellfire24 said:unfortunately your power supply sucks-
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article/2008/11/12/ocz_700w_modxstream_pro_power_supply/9
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article/2009/03/03/ocz_modxstream_pro_700w_40c_update/ -
twisted_rb said:
The XFX is great. You can get that.
If you want to stick with your OCZ PSU, then read the reviews that were just posted of it so that you know exactly how to treat it to make it last. If you can't keep with what they recommend, then I recommend replacing it. That OCZ PSU looks like it's a risky PSU to keep to me, but that's my opinion. -
Whats with the huge power supplies to run a vid card that uses relatively low power ? Is there going to be some really big OC's on this machine ? 600 watts corsair
I realise you are not in the usa but these are examples
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139036
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020 -
twisted_rb said:so what does this mean?
That the MSXP700 doesn't suck as bad as the first review leads many to believe, they just didn't get the full story
You're planning an upgrade from a GTX570 to a GTX680/670 correct ?
You will be decreasing your power consumption, running a card with lower power consumption isn't going to cause the psu to magically explode or not somehow be enough -
spentshells said:Whats with the huge power supplies to run a vid card that uses relatively low power ? Is there going to be some really big OC's on this machine ? 600 watts corsair
I realise you are not in the usa but these are examples
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139036
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020
Good point. Others recommended the 750w XFX and cited its expandable watage (it can have two 670s) as good reasoning and I agreed. If SLI/CF isn't planned, then a lower wattage model should suffice without a problem. -
twisted_rb said:so guys im a bit confused now do u think i should just get a 670 with the xfx 750w or stick to my 700w?
thanks btw this is alot of help
I think that you would do best to get a new PSU. The XFX 750W is a great example for a PSU if you plan on SLI in the future. Also, as spentshells said, if you don't plan on SLI in the future, then a lower wattage (600W) PSU should do well. Corsair is another great brand for PSUs, but I'd put them on-par with Antec, aka just below Seasonic/XFX.
I'd also like to ask again if you have a Nvidia graphics card preference. -
twisted_rb said:so guys im a bit confused now do u think i should just get a 670 with the xfx 750w or stick to my 700w?
thanks btw this is alot of help
Once again, you will be lowering your power consumption with either card, the psu won't be an issue unless you plan on SLI, no need to run out and change it till then -
twisted_rb said:yes i would rather use Nvidia and im not planning on going SLI at the min but maybe in the future so i might get a new 750w xfx psu when i get the card and if you guys say the gtx670 is all most the same as 680 i will get that!
Do you mind if I ask if you have any particular reasoning for preferring Nvidia? They might be the better solution in some cases, but until we know more, I wouldn't say for sure that they're the best way to go.
If for any reason you want Nvidia regardless of what AMD offers, then at least do so knowing that the 670 and the XFX PSU are great options. For the 670 brand, if you go this way, I recommend either getting an Asus or MSI if you value card quality the most or an EVGA if you value the customer service the most.
EDIT: Sorry about the PSU confusion. Some of us are more adamant than other about having a top-reliability brand and OCZ is not that. They are often a cheap, third or fourth rate brand (out of five). Let me ask you one more question about your OCZ PSU. How old is it? -
blazorthon said:The XFX is great. You can get that.
If you want to stick with your OCZ PSU, then read the reviews that were just posted of it so that you know exactly how to treat it to make it last. If you can't keep with what they recommend, then I recommend replacing it. That OCZ PSU looks like it's a risky PSU to keep to me, but that's my opinion.
It's not risky, it's a quality PSU. -
twisted_rb said:ok i would get a good make anyway but alot of people are telling me to keep my psu now should i get 670 and try my psu 1st because this will save me money tbh
We're not worried about it working with your PSU. It will work. We're worried about that PSU failing (I'm not saying for sure that it will). Also, please read my last response to you and reply so that I can make a better recommendation.
I've owned several OCZ power supplies. Some of them don't last as long as I'd like them to and when they fail, they can take out other components. Don't count out the OCZ supply just yet. -
twisted_rb said:so many people telling me different things
dont know what to do now
Some people have misinterpreted that review above. All it means is that if you push the PSU very hard when it's running in hot conditions, it's not going to deliver quite what it promises. But your computer, with a single GTX 670, is incapable of pushing that PSU hard. There isn't going to be a problem. You should only consider buying a new PSU if you're going to use two high-end graphics cards. -
Sakkura said:Some people have misinterpreted that review above. All it means is that if you push the PSU very hard when it's running in hot conditions, it's not going to deliver quite what it promises. But your computer, with a single GTX 670, is incapable of pushing that PSU hard. There isn't going to be a problem. You should only consider buying a new PSU if you're going to use two high-end graphics cards.
ok thanks it seems you know alot so do u know if the 670 will get 120fps on battlefield 3? -
twisted_rb said:ok thanks it seems you know alot so do u know if the 670 will get 120fps on battlefield 3?
That would depend on the resolution and settings. You said that you were playing at 1080p if I remember correctly and the 670 should be able to get about 120FPS so long as you don't use AA and maybe a frew other intensive settings. -
blazorthon said:That would depend on the resolution and settings. You said that you were playing at 1080p if I remember correctly and the 670 should be able to get about 120FPS so long as you don't use AA and maybe a frew other intensive settings.
ok thanks i only want to play on medium anyway tbh and i think i will keep my psu and just see what happens because my pc is a custom build from www.powerc.com and it still has 2 years warenty so if anything goes wrong with psu i can get a new one instantly! -
twisted_rb said:ok thanks i only want to play on medium anyway tbh and i think i will keep my psu and just see what happens because my pc is a custom build from www.powerc.com and it still has 2 years warenty so if anything goes wrong with psu i can get a new one instantly!
I'm really more worried aboutthe PSU taking other components with it.
If the PSU has a two year warranty and it's still going, then would I be correct in assuming that it's no more than about a year old? If so, then I think that it should be fine so long as you don't let it get too hot. I think that the reviews said that 40c is its recommended maximum.
Alright then, unless you specifically want to upgrade the PSU, we have pretty much come to the conclusion that your current one is okay, just not great. It should be fine so long as it doesn't get overheated. -
twisted_rb said:it is about 10 months old and how do i check the temps of it but so far it has been fine and would it power a 680 if i wanted to go for the gtx680?
It would power a 680 if you wanted it, but again, it's basically $100 down the drain. As for checking temps, there should be cheap equipment that you could buy for that. I don't think that it has built-in temp reporting features.
You haven't said if there's a particular reason for your Nvidia preference. Is there one? -
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blazorthon said:It would power a 680 if you wanted it, but again, it's basically $100 down the drain. As for checking temps, there should be cheap equipment that you could buy for that. I don't think that it has built-in temp reporting features.
You haven't said if there's a particular reason for your Nvidia preference. Is there one?
ok thanks for the advice and there is no reason just always had nvidia i cant find many benchmarks between 670 and 680 for battlefield 3!
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