$600 dollar build for a friend

[hamzz]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lDPc

Any suggestions on what i should upgrade?

 

[jmsellars1]

Looks good. The FX-6 isn't ideal for games but that one is very cheap. You're not going to get something much better for $105.

 

[excella1221]

Yeah, Bulldozer is a generation behind, Piledriver is the new thing and it's much better.

You don't need the extra fans with this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 PRO3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($67.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $590.48
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

 

[hamzz]

Accidentally forgot to save it so i just changed it can you look at it again?

 

[ScrewySqrl]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 PRO3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($67.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Other: ASUS PCE-N10 ($21.99)
Total: $603.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

your initial build didn't have a dvd drive...no need for the big fan with this case, snd the 650 is close to the 7770

 

[hamzz]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lHCy I really like this build and my friend already has an optical drive on his older pc. 650 vs 7770 whats better?

 

[sonicers]

Go for the Antec VP-450, its a better PSU, 1 tier up, and also the same price. The 7770 beats out the GTX 650.

AMD for better performance at the same price
GTX for CUDA and PhysX

 

[hamzz]

So this is the final build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lHKS

 

[excella1221]

The VP-450 is a 380w PSU in reality.

Get any of these instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182202&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238&vpn=P1450SX2B9&manufacture=XFX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182261&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/dosearch_v3.asp?scriteria=AB00047&bop=&bbp=&catpromotename=

 

[hamzz]

could i just stick with the corsair one i had originally?

 

[excella1221]

It's actually just a 380w PSU as well.
Though it's fairly cheap and you basically get what you're paying for.

I wouldn't personally go that low. A decent amount of headroom is nice.

 

[CustomPc]

guys? why use an AMD FX-6100 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor if he can go for an i3 :O?

 

[twelve25]

The fx6300 may be the fancy new Piledriver core, but it doesn't beat the FX6100 by more than a few percent in most benchmarks. It's not worth the $35 premium at current prices, IMO.

And why not windows 8?

 

[hamzz]

The fx6300 may be the fancy new Piledriver core, but it doesn't beat the FX6100 by more than a few percent in most benchmarks. It's not worth the $35 premium at current prices, IMO.

And why not windows 8?

Windows 8 has some compatibility issues with a few games and windows 7 is $9 dollars cheaper.

 

[excella1221]

The fx6300 may be the fancy new Piledriver core, but it doesn't beat the FX6100 by more than a few percent in most benchmarks. It's not worth the $35 premium at current prices, IMO.

And why not windows 8?

Where exactly are these benchmarks?

Piledriver was a great improvement from the Bulldozer especially in gaming.
You're like saying to skip out on an i5 Ivy because the it's not worth the difference from an i5 Sandy.

And no, the price difference is $20.

 

[twelve25]

In his build, the FX-6100 was $105 and the fx-6300 was $140. That's $35 an 33% difference. On a budget build, that's a big deal. I agree the fx-6300 is a little bit better, but not 33%.

And no, I wouldn't pay 33% more for a i5-3570 over an i5-2500, because they perform about 5% different. Same logic.

You can google the benchmarks, but if we are talking about a gaming rig, I think most would agree an i3 is going to be a better buy.

 

[excella1221]

Because there's a discount promo.
Budget builds should have the biggest bang they can get and I doubt a mediocre CPU like a Bulldozer that's infamous for being terribad at games would serve him well in the long run.

And lol, you're using a 1:1 ratio to compare price : performance.

By your logic, it's like saying he should just get a Phenom II instead.

And no, the FX-6300 is a better buy now than the i3.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=677

That link includes Skyrim and Diablo 3 benchmarks.

Also, though this is beyond the point - Price difference between the i5-2500K and i5-3570K are barely negligible now.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80623i52500k
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k

 

[hamzz]

In the end he decided to take his dad's advice and go with some shitty prebuilt computer >.>

http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/2012_Halloween_AMD_FX_6-Core

What a waste....