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October 28, 2012 6:41:53 PM

I'm looking to build a new system for under 500 dollars. I want it to be for gaming. I want it to be highly upgradable! want to be able to play Skyrim, battlefield, and crysis on high settings at a resolution supported by a 720p hdmi tv connection. I want it to last with good settings for at least 3 years if possible. I will be buying it after Christmas hopefully.

scrap system:HP Pavilion p6157c, I want to use as many parts from that as possible. http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Docume... sorry for big link(If it even works)

keyboard and mouse: no
monitor: no (I will be using a 32" lcd 720p tv)
os: yes (not sure whether to go with windows 7 or 8)
sli/crossfire: no
overclock: i want the option for the future if possible.

so far
CPU: intel i5 2500k unlocked it about 200 dollars (i am open to recommendations and overclocking is an option in the future)
hdd: im pretty sure i can use my old 750 gb hdd if i format it
gpu: something that can play battlefield on highest settings if it is possible with the budget( remember resolution only has to be 720p)
All the other parts i'm not really sure about i hope to put a list together soon
I'm a newb and haven't built a computer before so any advice will help

Thank you in advance!



October 28, 2012 7:12:22 PM

well i've got 4Builds for you
Assuming that we are playing WoW in these following settings:-
1920x1080 resolution
All ultra, except shadows set to high
DirectX 11 mode, WoW 64-bit client
Multisampling 1x, Anisotropic Filtering Trilinear
Playing in a 25-man raid / crowded cities. Anywhere else? Let's just say high enough FPS
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** Build 1: Tight Budget Build
Warning: Take this build ONLY and ONLY IF you will upgrade the CPU down the road. If not, take the above Trinity build.

CPU: Pentium G850
Motherboard: Any B75 motherboard
RAM: Any 2 x 4GB RAM while keeping my notes (DDR3-1600, 1.5v)
Graphics: Radeon HD 7770
Power Supply: PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 500W or other similar power supplies
Hard Drive: Cheap 500GB
DVD Drive: Cheap DVD burner
Case: Cheap ATX mid-tower case with at least 2 fans

Example Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kfIb

Estimated cost: ~$485
Estimated FPS in WoW: ~40
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** Build 2: Best build for good gaming without spending big $

CPU: AMD FX-6300
CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212+, or EVO, or above if wanted
Motherboard: Any 990FX motherboard, recommending great OC board
RAM: Any 2 x 4GB RAM while keeping my notes (DDR3-1600, 1.5v)
Graphics: Radeon HD 7850 1GB
Power Supply: PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 500W or other similar power supplies
SSD: Optional, recommending 120/128GB budget SSDs
Hard Drive: Cheap 500GB
DVD Drive: Cheap DVD burner
Case: CoolerMaster Storm Enforcer or similar mid-tower case with at least 2 fans

Example Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lfYt

Estimated cost: ~$750
+SSD cost if you choose to add an SSD.
Estimated FPS in WoW: ~50+
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** Build 3: Give me a pretty good system just under 1k

Note: If you want the capacity to run SLi / CrossFireX with the Intel i5 CPU, you will have to upgrade the motherboard to one of the recommended Z77 motherboards.

Note: Many motherboards only come with 2 SATA cables, and some SSDs do not come with an extra SATA cable. Check the motherboard and SSD content details, and ensure you have enough SATA cables.

CPU: (Intel) i5-3330 / i5-3450 / i5-3470 (Get cheapest one) / (AMD) AMD FX-8320
CPU Cooler: (AMD) CoolerMaster Hyper 212+, or EVO, or above if wanted
Motherboard: (Intel) Any B75 motherboard / (AMD) Any 990FX motherboard
RAM: Any 2 x 4GB RAM while keeping my notes (DDR3-1600, 1.5v)
Graphics: Radeon HD 7870 2GB
Power Supply: PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 500W or other similar power supplies
SSD: Any of the 120/128GB performance-based SSDs
Hard Drive: 1TB or above if wanted
DVD Drive: Cheap DVD burner
Case: CoolerMaster Storm Enforcer or similar mid-tower case with at least 2 fans

(Intel) Example Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ikTQ
(AMD) Example Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lfZO

Estimated cost: (Intel) ~$875 ~ +++ / (AMD) ~$965 ~ +++
Estimated FPS in WoW: ~55+
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** Build 4: Yay overkill!
Note: This build assumes you will overclock the CPU. If you will not, replace CPU with i5-3330, and don't buy the CPU cooler. Motherboard can be kept if you NEED SLi/CrossFireX. Otherwise, get a B75 motherboard.

Note: Many motherboards only come with 2 SATA cables, and some SSDs do not come withi an extra SATA cable. Check the motherboard and SSD content details, and ensure you have enough SATA cables.

Example build assumes you will overclock.

CPU: i5-3570k
CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212+, or EVO, or above if wanted
Motherboard: Any of the recommended Z77 motherboards
RAM: Any 2 x 4GB RAM while keeping my notes (DDR3-1600, 1.5v)
Graphics: Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition
Power Supply: PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 600W or above if wanted
SSD: Any of the 256GB (or bigger) performance-based SSDs
Hard Drive: 1TB or above if wanted
DVD Drive: Cheap DVD Burner
Case: CoolerMaster Storm Enforcer or above

Example Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lg0z

Estimated cost: ~$1285 ~ +++
Estimated FPS: Do we really need to say this?
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*Build 5 The Medium
CPU Intel Core i3-2100 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor

Motherboard ASRock B75M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard

Memory Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card

Case Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case

Power Supply Antec Basiq 500W ATX12V Power Supply

Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer $
NOTE: Only Take this build if you're not thinking of upgrading any time soon and want to settle down with a Rig for a year or two without upgrading Ofcourse you will OC
FPS: 45+ SOLID
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** Build 0: Absolute MAXIMUM CHEAPEST Build
Warning: Take this build ONLY and ONLY IF you will upgrade the CPU down the road. If not, take the above Trinity build.

CPU: Celeron G540
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS
RAM: Any 2 x 4GB RAM while keeping my notes (DDR3-1333, 1.5v)
Graphics: Radeon HD 6670 (It MUST mention that it is GDDR5 in the name/VRAM)
Power Supply: Seasonic SS-350ET 350W
Hard Drive: Cheap 500GB or -smaller- if you are fine with it.
DVD Drive: Cheap DVD burner
Case: Cheap ATX mid-tower case with at least 1 fan

Example Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hQQ4

Estimated cost: ~$375
Estimated FPS in WoW: ~30
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*Special Build: Set it and Forget it! AMD Trinity Build
his build is for users who want to just build a PC then forget about it (of course, you still have to manually tweak and OC this). Just about the only upgrade you can do for it is an SSD / a Radeon graphics card for Dual Graphics option.

It has a DDR3-2133 RAM because you want to maximize APU's built-in graphics. DDR3-2133 is a perfect choice as it's not too expensive, and yet best performance given per dollar. You can drop down to DDR3-1866 if you want, and that's the slowest RAM I'd take for a Trinity build.

400W power supply is for Dual Graphics support. Pair it up with Radeon HD 6670, and you can easily beat pretty much all budget Intel systems up until $600+ mark, where it starts to include Radeon HD 7850 with an i3.

CPU: AMD A10-5800k
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212+ EVO
Motherboard: Any A75 based motherboard, strongly recommending OC-friendly ones
RAM: Any 2 x 4GB RAM while keeping my notes (DDR3-2133, 1.5v)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 400W
Hard Drive: Cheap 500GB or -smaller- if you are fine with it.
DVD Drive: Cheap DVD burner
Case: Cheap ATX mid-tower case, but must support tall CPU tower coolers and have at least 2 fans
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NOTE: I Really Recommend Build 2 or 3 if you can not afford that than go for the medium build #5 costs about 535$ gives you a SOLID HIGH 1920x1080 @ BF3 NO AA :) 
a b 4 Gaming
October 28, 2012 7:12:45 PM

From your old computer you will probably be able to use the wireless card in the PCI-E X1 slot, the HDD, the optical drive, and that's about it.

Now as for your new build, if you want to overclock, you aren't going to be able to get much else for around $500 even if you re-use your stuff.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.82 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $428.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

This will overclock, but as you can see, you are missing a GPU. An overclocking build generally costs considerably more than a regular one.

I don't know what to do here if you really want to overclock.
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October 28, 2012 7:20:14 PM

Deemo13 said:
From your old computer you will probably be able to use the wireless card in the PCI-E X1 slot, the HDD, the optical drive, and that's about it.

Now as for your new build, if you want to overclock, you aren't going to be able to get much else for around $500 even if you re-use your stuff.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.82 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $428.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

This will overclock, but as you can see, you are missing a GPU. An overclocking build generally costs considerably more than a regular one.

I don't know what to do here if you really want to overclock.


The builds that i gave him all of them are Overclockable :) 
October 28, 2012 7:22:16 PM

I could get rid of overclock. I just thought that having that ability down the road would be nice since i want it to last as long as possible. I am also open to the possibility o a different CPU as it is a little overpriced. I just don't think amd works as well as intel does. plus i don't live near a micro-center so i prefer tiger direct, newegg, or amazon
October 28, 2012 7:26:18 PM

garretsw said:
I could get rid of overclock. I just thought that having that ability down the road would be nice since i want it to last as long as possible. I am also open to the possibility o a different CPU as it is a little overpriced. I just don't think amd works as well as intel does.


They are the same reliability my friend.

for you i'd advice this build.
*Build 5 The Medium
CPU Intel Core i3-2100 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor

Motherboard ASRock B75M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard

Memory Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card

Case Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case

Power Supply Antec Basiq 500W ATX12V Power Supply

FPS:45~ SOLID ON BF3 1920x1080 HIGH SETTINGS NO AA :) 

I dont think you can overclock with this one though :/ 
a b 4 Gaming
October 28, 2012 7:32:14 PM

That would have been my recommendation, yet it doesn't have overclocking.

You might have to ditch the overclocking for that budget my friend.
October 28, 2012 7:33:43 PM

Ya that might be good. overclocking is not a must as long as the cpu stays on par down the road. I'm only using a 720p resolution so that res is 720p max. that means i could have at least a little aa right?
-at custompc
a b 4 Gaming
October 28, 2012 7:37:04 PM

Do you need to buy a copy of Windows that would be included in the price?
October 28, 2012 7:39:36 PM

Deemo13 said:
Do you need to buy a copy of Windows that would be included in the price?

yes which sucks. Im not buying this till after christmas though so d you think the price for windows 7 will drop a little by then because of windows 8
a b 4 Gaming
October 28, 2012 7:43:09 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.99 @ Mac Mall)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($176.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 380W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($41.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $496.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Here's how I would do it with Windows. Without Windows we could put an i3 in it, but that might not happen in this case.
October 28, 2012 7:48:03 PM

i would really like an i3 though so maybe my budget could expand a little. How much does a decent i3 cost. there are so many different i3s it is almost overwhelming.
October 28, 2012 7:49:51 PM

also what would i be losing without an i3? nothing much maybe a little bit of power?
a b 4 Gaming
October 28, 2012 7:52:49 PM

Not too much. That Pentium is a pretty good gaming processor. Quicker than a Phenom II 955 Quad-Core.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($176.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 380W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($41.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $572.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

That's about how much it would run you for an i3.

October 28, 2012 7:59:31 PM

Deemo13 said:
Not too much. That Pentium is a pretty good gaming processor. Quicker than a Phenom II 955 Quad-Core.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($176.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 380W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($41.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $572.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

That's about how much it would run you for an i3.

i will probably go with a pentum ( i hope i spelled that right) How long do you think that pentum will last though, as in 3 years down the road gaming on it.
October 28, 2012 8:05:30 PM

garretsw said:
i will probably go with a pentum ( i hope i spelled that right) How long do you think that pentum will last though, as in 3 years down the road gaming on it.


I dont think that pentium is gunna last for 3years if you are not going with my build (wich includes and i3) then i suggest going with the pentium build and a B75 MOBO so in the future you can switch the cpu from the G860 to the i3/i5 later on wich gives you much time to collect the amount :) 
October 28, 2012 8:09:13 PM

CustomPc said:
I dont think that pentium is gunna last for 3years if you are not going with my build (wich includes and i3) then i suggest going with the pentium build and a B75 MOBO so in the future you can switch the cpu from the G860 to the i3/i5 later on wich gives you much time to collect the amount :) 

I like your build too though so im gonna have to think about this. starting with an i3 might be the smarter idea too though. by the way thank you for replying to my post, you and deemo13 have been really helpful. could you provide a link and price for that mobo that would be very helpful :) 
a b 4 Gaming
October 28, 2012 8:31:29 PM

It might last 2 years. Its a good chip, but You will probably have to upgrade after 2 years depending on the games you want to play.
October 28, 2012 8:33:08 PM

garretsw said:
I like your build too though so im gonna have to think about this. starting with an i3 might be the smarter idea too though. by the way thank you for replying to my post, you and deemo13 have been really helpful. could you provide a link and price for that mobo that would be very helpful :) 


ASRock B75M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $64.99
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b75m link enjoy :) 
October 28, 2012 8:48:23 PM

do you guys think i can get any money for any of the left over parts from my scrap pc. If so how much?
a b 4 Gaming
October 28, 2012 9:31:16 PM

Eh, not that much. Maybe like 50-100.
October 28, 2012 9:49:39 PM

Deemo13 said:
Eh, not that much. Maybe like 50-100.

at least it is something :) 
October 29, 2012 1:41:19 AM

MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti and the regular 660 is there a diffrence
a b 4 Gaming
October 29, 2012 3:42:25 AM

The Ti is faster. And more expensive.
October 29, 2012 6:29:21 PM

what about the radeon hd 7850 2gb msi edition. is it better than the 660
a b 4 Gaming
October 29, 2012 7:21:21 PM

Personal preference. They're about the same really.
October 29, 2012 8:32:15 PM

okay thanks. So do you personally prefer the 7850 msi version. on newegg there are three results that pop up. I don't know which one is the best or if the more expensive on is even worth it? Could you possibly provide me with a link to a specific model and is msi better than the other company. I would love to know your specific personal preference on this. I would really appreciate it :) 
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