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[New Build] Good gaming and editing PC under $600

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October 28, 2012 7:35:56 PM

this is my first build so i am a TOTAL noob at this.

What I'm thinking
AMD Phenom 955/655 (not sure which is better, same price) - $90
AM3+ Mobo 990x (ASrock) - $130 but with free 8gb ram (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)
GTX 560 Ti - $159 with rebate
I have no idea what PSU
Cooler Master HAF 912 (not sure about htis one either) - $50
standard optical drive - $10-20

Could someone tell me if this would make a good build for mostly editing in adobe premiere pro and after effects, with a little gaming on the side (BF3, skyrim, tf2, bfbc2, a bunch of othergames)? Would I benefit from a more expensive processor like the AMD 8 cores or an intel i5? I want the GTX 560 for the CUDA support, and because the TI version is available for only $160. I am thinking the 990x mobo because it has support for up to 32gb of ram, so I can upgrade to that in the future If I need that much (i've talked to a bunch of people who say after effects and 3d rendering can chew through ram really fast). Is there another option that is better for the money? Also could someone recommend a good case for a noob like me? This is my first build, and I'd like one with a good amount of cooling built in, and maybe a good amount of space so I can expand and fit more into it.

Would I be better off going on the intel boat? Pls someone reply.
October 28, 2012 7:50:47 PM

AMD vs Intel depends on what application you're looking at. Adobe software uses multicore, so the more cores, the better, so although each AMD core is not as efficient, as Intel, as you get more cores, for your buck, the better AMD's can outperform Intel in video work. On the other hand, most gaming applications, are only single, or low core number applications, so Intel's more efficient cores whip AMD. It's slightly a question of which is more important.
As you rightly say, photo work eats RAM. Generally say start with 16GB (2x8GB), but work on the assumption, you are soon going to double that so need 32GB board.
Quad core often is "enough" for the amateur user (for professional use, it really needs i7, or 8 core AMD, even hex-core Intel), so i5 might be prefered, but you can get 8 core AMD for around same price.
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October 28, 2012 8:40:56 PM

malbluff said:
AMD vs Intel depends on what application you're looking at. Adobe software uses multicore, so the more cores, the better, so although each AMD core is not as efficient, as Intel, as you get more cores, for your buck, the better AMD's can outperform Intel in video work. On the other hand, most gaming applications, are only single, or low core number applications, so Intel's more efficient cores whip AMD. It's slightly a question of which is more important.
As you rightly say, photo work eats RAM. Generally say start with 16GB (2x8GB), but work on the assumption, you are soon going to double that so need 32GB board.
Quad core often is "enough" for the amateur user (for professional use, it really needs i7, or 8 core AMD, even hex-core Intel), so i5 might be prefered, but you can get 8 core AMD for around same price.

Thanks for the feedback. How would the quad core amd phenom compare to the hexa core phenom, and how do the phenoms compare to the FX?
Also what about GPUs?
Could you recommend a psu or case?
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October 28, 2012 9:16:04 PM

Between the AMDs, the more cores, the better they handle stuff like video editing. The difference in gaming performance is quite small. When I say better, I don't mean, are able to do more things, I mean faster at doing things. How important that is, depends on how much you are doing, and how important speed is. Obviously, it's more important to the professional user.
In terms of graphics card, you don't actually NEED a lot. It's more about processor performance. CS6, though, can use a graphics card to speed up processes, effectively using the compute capabilities of some graphics cards, to "help out". Using Windows (MAC is different) CS6 utilises Mercury Playback Engine. That can use the CUDA capabilities of nVidia (or Quadro) cards, to provide graphic acceleration, so speeding processes up.
For psu, the required rating, of course, depends on the rest of the build. Generally good makes are Seasonic, Antec, XFX, PC Power&Cooling, Corsair, BeQuiet.
As to case, providing you aren't putting a lot in it that's producing heat, almost any decent quality (avoid really cheap ones) mid tower ATX will do. So much is personal preference, I usually say, pick a couple that you find attractive, and we can say if one is substantially better.
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October 28, 2012 9:44:17 PM

Avoid the older phenoms IMO

At that price range a build should look like

FX 6300
Asrock 970 extreme 4 , or Asus M5A97 evo
2 x4 gig of RAM , or a 16 gig kit if its affordable . The performance difference will be small

500 watt 80+ bronze or better rated power supply
Radeon 7770 graphics card

The antec ONE is a well made case with a front USB 3 port and good cable management
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October 28, 2012 10:27:15 PM

Outlander_04 said:
Avoid the older phenoms IMO

At that price range a build should look like

FX 6300
Asrock 970 extreme 4 , or Asus M5A97 evo
2 x4 gig of RAM , or a 16 gig kit if its affordable . The performance difference will be small

500 watt 80+ bronze or better rated power supply
Radeon 7770 graphics card

The antec ONE is a well made case with a front USB 3 port and good cable management

Wouldn't disagree on CPU, but OP asked for nVidia, specifically, for CUDA (for MPE)
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October 28, 2012 11:31:17 PM

AMD have an equivalent technology to cuda

check the software website and you will almost certainly find it is supported
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October 28, 2012 11:42:28 PM

Is the new FX series cpu better? I was thinking the 8 core FX looks pretty sick for only $160. Is the 955 really that bad? What about the phenom ii x6 (6 core)?
Could I get away with a lower end graphics card like a nvidia 550 instead of a 560? I kind of want to get the 560 since its only 50 bucks more than the other cheaper ones and much better.
As far as processor goes, I think i'll get the 990x with the free 8gb ram. It's $130, so I could get it or the 970 and 8gb ram for $40 but then i would only save like 10 bucks. I think i want the 32gb support of the 990 for the future.
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October 29, 2012 12:17:22 AM

Outlander_04 said:
AMD have an equivalent technology to cuda

check the software website and you will almost certainly find it is supported

I did actually check, with Adobe, earlier today, because a similar issue was raised, on another thread, and was told: Adobe CS uses Mercury Playback Engine, with Windows (MAC is different). MPE uses CUDA, specifically, for graphic acceleration. So whilst Radeon graphics will work, with Adobe, in other respects, it cannot use them, for graphic acceleration, so will be slower. The MAC version, now similarly utilises Radeon as well, so it's not an issue, for anyone using MAC.
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October 29, 2012 12:29:25 AM

qzyxya said:
Is the new FX series cpu better? I was thinking the 8 core FX looks pretty sick for only $160. Is the 955 really that bad? What about the phenom ii x6 (6 core)?
Could I get away with a lower end graphics card like a nvidia 550 instead of a 560? I kind of want to get the 560 since its only 50 bucks more than the other cheaper ones and much better.
As far as processor goes, I think i'll get the 990x with the free 8gb ram. It's $130, so I could get it or the 970 and 8gb ram for $40 but then i would only save like 10 bucks. I think i want the 32gb support of the 990 for the future.

The latest FX's aren't bad. 6300 and above are quite good with photographic work, where high thread count is important. For gaming, which is rarely multi-threaded, Intel Dual core can beat Phenom, even with overclocking. If you want photo capability, and no gaming, AMD is the way to go. If you want both, the choice is more debatable. There, i5 may be better, if that is within budget. If it's not, you may as well go with something like Phenom ll x4 965 BE, and you can overclock to get at least reasonable performance, in both video, and gaming.
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October 29, 2012 1:08:59 AM

malbluff said:
The latest FX's aren't bad. 6300 and above are quite good with photographic work, where high thread count is important. For gaming, which is rarely multi-threaded, Intel Dual core can beat Phenom, even with overclocking. If you want photo capability, and no gaming, AMD is the way to go. If you want both, the choice is more debatable. There, i5 may be better, if that is within budget. If it's not, you may as well go with something like Phenom ll x4 965 BE, and you can overclock to get at least reasonable performance, in both video, and gaming.


How do the phenom x6s compare to the phenom x4 and the 6300s? Or to the i5s? If its really worth the extra ~$100 to get an i5 I'll go for it, but I'm not sure it is.
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October 29, 2012 3:06:10 AM

Will the intel i5 with 560 be that much better for gaming than say a FX6300? I know it has better gaming preformance, but isn't that much more based on the GPU? Like Wouldn't I be better off investing in a cheaper amd cpu and then putting the money i would have spent on a i5 on a better gpu? Also, I found the 8 core amd fx 8120 for only $140. Will this preform well in gaming with the GTX 560 (or 560 ti)?
Also does Adobe After Effects CS6 benefit from 8 cores? IE will it use all 8 of them when rendering? Would there be that much of a difference between 6 and 8 core?

I just want to know what I should invest in
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October 29, 2012 3:25:08 AM

http://www.techspot.com/review/586-amd-fx-8350-fx-6300/...

At th $600 price point the FX 6300 is better than any other option

The gaming performance will not be determined by your processor . A midrange graphics card will be the restriction in a system like this
But at least spending money on a FX should free some money to spend on a better graphics card
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October 29, 2012 9:52:03 AM

It is certainly true, in most games, that GPU performance is far more significant, than pure processor performance, using like for like GPU's and i5-3570K will achieve higher framerates the FX-6300. However, if using an FX-6300, rather than i5, frees up funds, to facilitate a BETTER GPU, with it, that may well give better, overall, gaming performance, and will have improved video editing performance.
If funds are available, though, to get i5-3570K AND a good graphics card, that IS probably the best way, to go, unless you are doing a lot of demanding video work.
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October 29, 2012 1:31:39 PM

malbluff said:
It is certainly true, in most games, that GPU performance is far more significant, than pure processor performance, using like for like GPU's and i5-3570K will achieve higher framerates the FX-6300. However, if using an FX-6300, rather than i5, frees up funds, to facilitate a BETTER GPU, with it, that may well give better, overall, gaming performance, and will have improved video editing performance.
If funds are available, though, to get i5-3570K AND a good graphics card, that IS probably the best way, to go, unless you are doing a lot of demanding video work.


Thanks, that FX 6300 sounds like a good bet for me. The only thing is, the FX 8 cores are only a little bit more expensive. Do they preform about the same, but just with more cores? If so I think i might get that instead, to speed up video work.
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October 29, 2012 1:33:15 PM

I read that article, it looks like the new 'piledriver' cpus aren't much better than the older ones. Would a 8 core FX 8120 be good for $140? I know the 8150 is the same thing but with higher stock clock speeds (i can obviously overclock them both higher).
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October 29, 2012 2:42:18 PM

The 8 core AMDs don't compare too badly, with a locked i5, especially once overclocked. Personally, would still prefer i5, for better gaming, but definitely an arguement for AMD, for photo work. Of course, if you compare them with i3, then they are definitely better, but more expensive, overall, and higher power consumption.
<a http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=702 /a>
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October 29, 2012 2:48:22 PM

What PSU should I get? I know next to nothing about them, only that I will probably need more than 500w, but idk. I might be able to use the PSU from my old computer. I'm probably going to use the HDD from my old computer and not buy a new windows 7 for $100.
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October 29, 2012 3:20:19 PM

Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower. ($44.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP LGA 1155. ($79.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155. ($129.99)
http: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: XFX HD 7850 1GB GDDR5 256 bit. ($159.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 . ($41.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Western Digital RE3 WD7502ABYS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache. ($59.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: XFX Core Edition PRO 550W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified. ($59.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X. ($16.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TOTAL : $594
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October 29, 2012 6:32:44 PM

Certainly wouldn't disagree with anything in above build. That is very good power supply. It's not modular, so, if that were important to OP, a Rosewill Hive might be a reasonable alternative, or a PC Power&Cooling Silencer MKlll 500w would be more than adequate, although Newegg do neither.
If buying, from Newegg, if may be better to get an ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 mobo, which they are currently offering with free 8GB of RAM, so, whilst the board is more expensive, it actually works out cheaper. The Extreme 4 would allow for the use of an unlocked processor, for overclocking, and gives full support, for the addition of 2nd GPU, in crossfire. OP may not be thinking of either, at the moment, but better features, for less cost, has got to be a bit of a no-brainer.
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October 29, 2012 6:58:40 PM

mrdowntownkiller said:
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower. ($44.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP LGA 1155. ($79.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155. ($129.99)
http: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: XFX HD 7850 1GB GDDR5 256 bit. ($159.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 . ($41.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Western Digital RE3 WD7502ABYS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache. ($59.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: XFX Core Edition PRO 550W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified. ($59.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X. ($16.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TOTAL : $594


This looks fine except the OP wanted nvidia and quad core. He also will reuse his own HDD so I would nix the HDD, switch to the gpu a 650TI or the OPs 560TI, and Up the cpu to an i5.

@OP if you reuse your hard drive depending on your copy of win 7 you may need a new 1. An OEM disk is linked to the system. If you have disks you may be fine you may not but a new HDD vs reusing should not matter.
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October 29, 2012 7:10:55 PM

jackspeed said:
This looks fine except the OP wanted nvidia and quad core. He also will reuse his own HDD so I would nix the HDD, switch to the gpu a 650TI or the OPs 560TI, and Up the cpu to an i5.

@OP if you reuse your hard drive depending on your copy of win 7 you may need a new 1. An OEM disk is linked to the system. If you have disks you may be fine you may not but a new HDD vs reusing should not matter.


again thanks for the fedback guys

Can't I just uninstall it from the old system and put the same exact hdd with same windows 7 into the new system? Im not going to use the old system.
And the new 650 ti is supposed to be really bad, especially compared to a 560 ti. Thanks for recommending those psus, I was totally lost.

actually which of these is better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - cooler master psu
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - silencer mk iii pc power

Would the vishera (whatever its called with the new piledriver from trinity architecture or w/e) fx6300 6 core be noticeably faster/better than the older phenoms like 955 and 965? How would the 8 core FX 8120 compare to it? I found both the 6300 and 8120 for $140 and the phenom for $90. I know the phenom is supposed to be slower and older but is it realistically $50 slower?
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October 29, 2012 8:42:14 PM

qzyxya said:
again thanks for the fedback guys

Can't I just uninstall it from the old system and put the same exact hdd with same windows 7 into the new system? Im not going to use the old system.
And the new 650 ti is supposed to be really bad, especially compared to a 560 ti. Thanks for recommending those psus, I was totally lost.

actually which of these is better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - cooler master psu
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - silencer mk iii pc power

Would the vishera (whatever its called with the new piledriver from trinity architecture or w/e) fx6300 6 core be noticeably faster/better than the older phenoms like 955 and 965? How would the 8 core FX 8120 compare to it? I found both the 6300 and 8120 for $140 and the phenom for $90. I know the phenom is supposed to be slower and older but is it realistically $50 slower?


An OEM version of Windows is linked to the motherboard, on which it was first installed. New mobo, new Windows. A retail version (basically twice the price), can be used, on up to 3 motherboards.
GTX650Ti is a step DOWN from GTX560Ti
GTX660 is a step UP from GTX560ti, for gaming, but has slightly lower performance, for something like CS6
GTX660Ti is two steps UP from GTX560Ti gaming, plus slightly better in something like CS6.
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October 29, 2012 9:19:33 PM

"GTX650Ti is a step DOWN from GTX560Ti"

I can't believe I miss read the gpu chart. Sorry my mistake.
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October 29, 2012 9:38:23 PM

malbluff said:
. A retail version (basically twice the price), can be used, on up to 3 motherboards.
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Important to clarify it cant be used on 3 motherboards AT THE SAME TIME .

It can be transferred if your motherboard is replaced

In practice MS are generally pretty good about letting you transfer oem software is you activate via the phone option . They have been in the past anyway .
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October 29, 2012 10:36:48 PM

Whilst Anandtech benches are useful as a guide, to compare pairs of CPUs and GPUs, they do need to be treated with caution. CPU comparasons are quite good, although they can't take into account the different OC potential, of different CPUs. Comparasons of GPUs are more difficult. Not only can't they take into account different OC, there are differences between different versions, and because they obviously can't retest every card, whenever they add new ones, they tend not to take latest drivers into account.
Very useful, but need "interpretting".
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October 29, 2012 10:45:05 PM

IMO anandtech make some quite misleading comparisons .
What use is a chard comparing the performance of a single core? No one disables 5 cores on an FX 6300 and 3 on an intel quad in real life . Worse still what intel call a core is more like an AMD module

The gaming benches are particularly useless since they get run at lower resolution . At 1080p the results can be quite different

having said that the anadtech link above comparing the FX 6300 to a Phenom 965 is reasonably useful . Since I just ordered my FX 6300 its pleasing to see it beats the phenom in almost every bench
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October 29, 2012 11:18:53 PM

Wait so I have to buy a new version of windows? Damn. Could someone link me to the ones that work on up to 3 computers at the same time?
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October 29, 2012 11:23:40 PM

I read this. Does this apply to my computer?
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October 29, 2012 11:38:26 PM

qzyxya said:
I read this. Does this apply to my computer?

Is there meant to be a link?
Microsoft are often flexible about installing OEM versions, on a 2nd mobo. After all, your mobo might have failed, forcing you to replace it. If you chose to be "economical with the truth" that is, of course, up to you.
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October 30, 2012 11:36:16 PM

I'm really confused at weather its worht it to get the newest piledriver amd FXs or the older bulldozer ones. Which would have best bang for the buck for me, the FX6300, the fx8120 (same price, $140), or the phenom 965? Is it worth it to spend 60 bucks more for the fx 8120/6300? What about the newer piledriver (or whatever) fx 8 cores or the older bulldozer 6 cores? Thanks
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October 31, 2012 1:09:12 AM

I have just ordered an FX 6300 for myself

I think you get very marginal extra performance in a gaming computer if you spend more than this on a processor

Yes get the new piledriver models if you can afford them

The performance of the 4300 will be higher than any of the intel dual cores , and if you can stretch your budget to include the FX 6300 you will have gaming performance nearly as good as any processor
http://www.techspot.com/review/586-amd-fx-8350-fx-6300/...
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October 31, 2012 6:58:13 AM

The 4300 isn't better than i3-3220, until you get to multi-core apps, which very few gaming apps are. Even 8xxx doesn't necessarily beat i3, in most gaming. Agreed, for multi-core there may be a case, for 8xxx, over i3, but then would prefer something like i5-3470, in that price range, given you don't need cooler, and overclock, for decent performance.
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October 31, 2012 7:09:39 AM

malbluff said:
The 4300 isn't better than i3-3220, until you get to multi-core apps, which very few gaming apps are. Even 8xxx doesn't necessarily beat i3, in most gaming. Agreed, for multi-core there may be a case, for 8xxx, over i3, but then would prefer something like i5-3470, in that price range, given you don't need cooler, and overclock, for decent performance.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4170-core-i3-322...
The 4170 is better than the i3 pretty much everywhere , but especially in encoding applications
In DX 9 games that cant multithread its a behind , In DX 10 and 11 games the margins are so small they are unnoticeable

Since the 4300 is more powerful than the 4170 its a safe bet the intel doesnt stand a chance

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October 31, 2012 8:20:44 AM

So, to sum up. i3 beats FX in gaming, although, in some games, only by a small margin, assuming you overclock an FX. The FX can beat i3, in some multi-threaded apps, like video editing, with some software, but most gaming apps aren't multi-threaded. When you take everything into account i3 is no more expensive, than FX, and costs less to run. For a strictly gaming rig, the incentive to get FX is.......?
Would agree, for an editing rig, prefer FX to i3, but, then, would prefer i5, even a locked one, over FX. It all depends on budget.
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October 31, 2012 8:55:32 AM

No overclocking is required for a 4170 to match the best intel i3 in DX 10 and 11 games . Where there is a margin its too small to even notice

the 4300 is faster than the 4170 and will probably be faster in most games than the best intel dual core , by an imperceptibly small margin

In very rare , poorly coded , apps that cant multithread the intel can win . Everywhere else it falls behind the 4170 and even further behind the 4300 .

And then of course you can OC the AMD chips and pull even further ahead if you wish

There is no reason to ever consider the intel dual cores for a gaming pc , and evn less if the pc will be used for encoding where less than $10 more will get you an FX 6300
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October 31, 2012 12:00:23 PM

Outlander_04 said:
No overclocking is required for a 4170 to match the best intel i3 in DX 10 and 11 games . Where there is a margin its too small to even notice

the 4300 is faster than the 4170 and will probably be faster in most games than the best intel dual core , by an imperceptibly small margin

In very rare , poorly coded , apps that cant multithread the intel can win . Everywhere else it falls behind the 4170 and even further behind the 4300 .

And then of course you can OC the AMD chips and pull even further ahead if you wish

There is no reason to ever consider the intel dual cores for a gaming pc , and evn less if the pc will be used for encoding where less than $10 more will get you an FX 6300


Thanks, I've pretty much decided on the FX chips for my rig. Just what is the difference between the 1st gen bulldozer and the 2nd gen piledrivers? I know obviously the newer piledrivers are going to be a bit better, but is it worth the extra money? Also is it a straight upgrade from the 6 core fx to the 8 core fx or do you sacrifice something? Like will a 1st gen fx 8 coer 8120 beat a 2nd gen 6 core 6300? I honestly dont care too much about gaming, since that relies on the gpu much more and I just want to be able to play them and not havethe best possible preformance out of my gpu. It will be mainly editing/multithreaded applications.

I've gotten the idea that the older phenoms are going to be much worse, but they are still pretty good for their price. Would I be much better off with the fx's for $40-50 bucks more than say a 955? Also how are the 6 core phenoms? Are they any good?

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October 31, 2012 12:11:04 PM

May be a slightly pointless discussion, for OP, as I would concede 6 core FX will be better, for most photgraphic applications, than i3, as most can utilise, some, if not all of those extra cores, but something like FX4300 isn't better, than i3-3220, in single threaded apps, like most gaming, assuming both have the same graphics card. FX4300 can be up to 40% behind i3. Here are the general benchmarks.<a http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/700?vs=677 /a>. Cinebench R10 is a reasonable comparason, between single, and multi-core apps.
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October 31, 2012 12:34:10 PM

Three Builds would run your game fine there all under 600$...

BULD 1:-
CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.99 @ Mac Mall)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.99 @ Mac Mall)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($35.83 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
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(if your reusing HDD maybe you can take off the HDD+CPU and get a better CPU.)
Build 2:-
CPU Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor $119.99 (same price as the A10 xD)

Motherboard ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $69.99

Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $40.99


EVGA SuperClocked 02G-P4-2662-KR GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $229.95

Case Cooler Master Elite 330 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99

Power Supply Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply $44.99

Optical Drive LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer $17.99
About 580$ doesn't come with an HDD
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Build 3:- Oh buddy here we go ;) 
CPU Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor $179.99

Motherboard MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $54.99

Memory Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $38.99

Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card $229.95

Case Cooler Master Elite 330 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99

Power Supply Antec EarthWatts Green 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply $64.99

Optical Drive LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer $17.99
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Build 4:- Low Budget build would run BF3 ON HIGH 1920x1080 ;)  *comes with windows 7 and other stuff*
CPU AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor $119.99

CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $26.82

Motherboard ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard $54.99

Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $40.99

Storage Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.99
OCZ Vertex Plus R2 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $49.99

Video Card HIS Radeon HD 6670 1GB Video Card $89.99

Case Cooler Master Elite 330 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99

Power Supply Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply $44.99

Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer

Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) $91.99
Costs 600 but if you drop the Hdd's and the Win7 you can probably get this for 480$
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CPU Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor $119.99

Motherboard ASRock B75M-GL Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $59.99

Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $40.99

Storage Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.99
OCZ Vertex Plus R2 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $49.99

Video Card MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card $124.99

Case Cooler Master Elite 330 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99

Power Supply Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply $44.99

Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer $15.99

Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) $91.99
Same as the other build but i thought you may not like AMD so this one has INTEL ;) 
Both run greatly and both if you drop the HDD's and Win7 would be just around 500$ Enjoy
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October 31, 2012 1:43:26 PM

How does that more expensive GTX660 compare to the GTX560 ti? Should I invest in that (the gpu) or should I invest more into the cpu? I kind of feel like buying an i5 3750k since its only like $70 more. On the other hand, I could also buy a fx 8350/8320 for less and invest the rest in a better mobo/gpu or whatever. That intel i5 rig you posted,
Build 3:- Oh buddy here we go
CPU Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor $179.99

Motherboard MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $54.99

Memory Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $38.99

Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card $229.95

Case Cooler Master Elite 330 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99

Power Supply Antec EarthWatts Green 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply $64.99

Optical Drive LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer $17.99

How much better does the i5 preform compared to the fx 8 cores in stuff like photoshop and encoding? If I lose say 10fps by going with the amd 8 core, but gain a lot of preformance in rendering I'd rather have that. I feel like either way, with a powerful gpu I will get fine preformance in gaming.
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October 31, 2012 1:43:31 PM

CustomPc said:
Three Builds would run your game fine there all under 600$...

BULD 1:-
CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.99 @ Mac Mall)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.99 @ Mac Mall)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($35.83 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
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(if your reusing HDD maybe you can take off the HDD+CPU and get a better CPU.)
Build 2:-
CPU Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor $119.99 (same price as the A10 xD)

Motherboard ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $69.99

Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $40.99


EVGA SuperClocked 02G-P4-2662-KR GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $229.95

Case Cooler Master Elite 330 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99

Power Supply Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply $44.99

Optical Drive LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer $17.99
About 580$ doesn't come with an HDD
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Build 3:- Oh buddy here we go ;) 
CPU Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor $179.99

Motherboard MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $54.99

Memory Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $38.99

Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card $229.95

Case Cooler Master Elite 330 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99

Power Supply Antec EarthWatts Green 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply $64.99

Optical Drive LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer $17.99
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Build 4:- Low Budget build would run BF3 ON HIGH 1920x1080 ;)  *comes with windows 7 and other stuff*
CPU AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor $119.99

CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $26.82

Motherboard ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard $54.99

Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $40.99

Storage Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.99
OCZ Vertex Plus R2 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $49.99

Video Card HIS Radeon HD 6670 1GB Video Card $89.99

Case Cooler Master Elite 330 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99

Power Supply Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply $44.99

Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer

Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) $91.99
Costs 600 but if you drop the Hdd's and the Win7 you can probably get this for 480$
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CPU Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor $119.99

Motherboard ASRock B75M-GL Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $59.99

Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $40.99

Storage Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.99
OCZ Vertex Plus R2 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $49.99

Video Card MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card $124.99

Case Cooler Master Elite 330 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99

Power Supply Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply $44.99

Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer $15.99

Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) $91.99
Same as the other build but i thought you may not like AMD so this one has INTEL ;) 
Both run greatly and both if you drop the HDD's and Win7 would be just around 500$ Enjoy

Which VIDEO EDITING GAME is that. To be fair, I have to keep reminding myself, we're talking about V/E, with gaming, on the side.
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October 31, 2012 1:44:32 PM

Is this review/benchmark accurate? It says the phenom x6 preforms better than all of the other ones for some reason. much better than the fx 6300
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October 31, 2012 5:46:49 PM

@malbuff those are ALL GAMING RIGS but i can assure you a GTX 660 Heavily oc'd can do some High Quality Good Video editing while playing BF3 on 1920x1080 6AA x16FF ULTRA settings on 50fps :) 
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October 31, 2012 5:58:41 PM

Do I need the 2gb 660 or do they have a 1gb version? Also should I invest in the $50 to the 660 from the 560 or should I just put that into a better cpu? Could someone aswer my earlier post?

"How does that more expensive GTX660 compare to the GTX560 ti? Should I invest in that (the gpu) or should I invest more into the cpu? I kind of feel like buying an i5 3750k since its only like $70 more. On the other hand, I could also buy a fx 8350/8320 for less and invest the rest in a better mobo/gpu or whatever. That intel i5 rig you posted,
Build 3:- Oh buddy here we go
CPU Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor $179.99

Motherboard MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $54.99

Memory Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $38.99

Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card $229.95

Case Cooler Master Elite 330 Upgraded ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99

Power Supply Antec EarthWatts Green 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply $64.99

Optical Drive LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer $17.99

How much better does the i5 preform compared to the fx 8 cores in stuff like photoshop and encoding? If I lose say 10fps by going with the amd 8 core, but gain a lot of preformance in rendering I'd rather have that. I feel like either way, with a powerful gpu I will get fine preformance in gaming."
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