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September 2, 2012 4:20:42 AM

Hey guys, I'm stuck on a decision again for the 2nd time about what GPU to get....and it includes the new GTX 660ti and the ATI 7950. I keep getting people saying that the 660ti is the best out of the box for playing games like Battlefield 3 without a problem. But then I keep getting people saying "NO!" get the HD 7950 because you can overclock it where it's even better than the GTX 670. Seriously what should I go with because honestly I'm trying to work on a budget and the 7950 pushes me over 30 to 80 bucks over depending on what manufacture I go with.

Case: NZXT Phantom 410 CA-PH410-B1 White Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $99.99

Storage HDD: Seagate ST310005N1A1AS-RK 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $119.99 $79.99

GPU: Undecided for the moment!

PSU: XFX Core Edition PRO650W (P1-650S-NLB9) 650W ATX12V 2.2 & ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply $99.99 $85.99

Memory: G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAB $42.99

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM $99.99

Additional Case Fans: 2 x COOLER MASTER R4-L4S-10AB-GP 140mm Blue LED Case Fan $29.98 $23.98 ($11.99 each)

Heatsink: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel $34.99

Optical Drive: LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-ray Burner,3D Play Back (WH14NS40) - OEM $79.99 $69.99

Boot/OS Drive: Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) with Transfer Kit $114.99 $79.99

Motherboard & CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Combo $419.98 $389.98

Total: $1,043.88 (shipping incl.)
Budget is basically $1400 ~ Shopping Newegg preferably
Purchase date is roughly after Labor Day.

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a b U Graphics card
September 2, 2012 4:27:52 AM

660Ti is almost even with HD 7950 at stock, but HD 7950 is better than 660Ti at OverClocking.

Want PhysX and not planning to OverClock? Get 660Ti.
Definitely planning to OverClock? Get HD 7950 (or maybe even HD 7870, which would be quite enough too).

Simple as that.
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a b U Graphics card
September 2, 2012 4:34:10 AM

to free up some cash

Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 64GB SSD 72.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM SATA 12X Blu-ray Burner with Blu Ray 3D Feature IHBS112-04 - OEM $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $344

either

MSI Twin Frozr Radeon HD 7950 $309 AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition $449 AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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a b U Graphics card
September 2, 2012 4:37:19 AM

Why spend $79 on a 64GB SSD when you can get a 120GB SSD for $89?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm confused as to why you think the HD7950 costs $30 to $80 more than the 660Ti. Based on what I see on Newegg, both are $300 and up. The HD7950 is a no brainer over the 660Ti. At $300, the 660Ti is about $60 overpriced for the performance.
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September 2, 2012 4:55:45 AM

iknowhowtofixit said:
Why spend $79 on a 64GB SSD when you can get a 120GB SSD for $89?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm confused as to why you think the HD7950 costs $30 to $80 more than the 660Ti. Based on what I see on Newegg, both are $300 and up. The HD7950 is a no brainer over the 660Ti. At $300, the 660Ti is about $60 overpriced for the performance.


For one I was recommend by a moderator that the M4 was a leading SSD for using it as a OS/Boot Drive and that one was on sale...and why I think prices are anywhere between 30 to 80 more.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

The 660ti is $299.99 and correction they are anywhere from 20 to 80 for the large manufactures such as Asus.
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a b U Graphics card
September 2, 2012 4:58:08 AM

CagedAlchemist said:
For one I was recommend by a moderator that the M4 was a leading SSD for using it as a OS/Boot Drive and that one was on sale...and why I think prices are anywhere between 30 to 80 more.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

The 660ti is $299.99 and correction they are anywhere from 20 to 80 for the large manufactures such as Asus.

the best HD 7950 the MSi Twin Frozr is only $9 more for more performance
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September 2, 2012 5:02:56 AM

gamerkila57 said:
the best HD 7950 the MSi Twin Frozr is only $9 more for more performance


Well I'll look into some more reviews about the 7950, and that Mushkin SSD doesn't look to good. Nearly half the people who bought it gave it one egg.
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a b U Graphics card
September 2, 2012 5:08:08 AM

iknowhowtofixit said:
Why spend $79 on a 64GB SSD when you can get a 120GB SSD for $89?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm confused as to why you think the HD7950 costs $30 to $80 more than the 660Ti. Based on what I see on Newegg, both are $300 and up. The HD7950 is a no brainer over the 660Ti. At $300, the 660Ti is about $60 overpriced for the performance.

i rather go for a reliable SSD than a cheap one :) 

Edit: MSi Twin Frozr HD 7950 Review
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_7950_Twin_Fro...
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September 2, 2012 5:18:37 AM

gamerkila57 said:
i rather go for a reliable SSD than a cheap one :) 

Well I heard the Intel SSDs and Crucial M4s ar reliable so I'm going with M4 for now...and I don't need a lot of space for my Primary drive because I'm just putting my OS and few essential programs on there and that's it. I'll move any temp files & etc. from it and put it all on storage as well because I've heard it increases the lifespan of the SSD or something.

And remember guys it's not like I'm unable to upgrade my card later down the road....honestly I was going for the 660ti because a lot of the features sounded nice on it. Plus watching some real world benchmarks drew my attention to it as well...in most cases it was only a few frames behind the 670.
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a b U Graphics card
September 2, 2012 5:18:43 AM

My comment about the Mushkin was more to prove a point than to suggest that particular model. If you were to bump up to a 128GB SSD, I would get the Samsung 830, $16 more than the M4 64GB. I love the Crucial M4 series. But, I would never buy any SSD less than 120/128GB, even as a boot drive. It just isn't worth the trouble and constant monitoring making sure the drive isn't full...

Samsung 830 -
Cheapest Price - http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/845680-REG/Samsun...
Newegg - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-147-...

Also, the cheapest 660Ti and HD7950 are both $299 on Newegg
HD7950 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
660Ti - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 2, 2012 5:33:37 AM

You guys must live where prices are different because when I click your links I get any where from 10 to 20 bucks more than you actually say it is.
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September 2, 2012 5:51:31 AM

iknowhowtofixit said:
Link for the HD7950 was wrong, try again now.

Took me to the Newegg homepage...
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a b U Graphics card
September 2, 2012 5:52:46 AM

Link for the HD7950 was wrong, try again now.
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a b U Graphics card
September 2, 2012 5:58:00 AM

CagedAlchemist said:
Took me to the Newegg homepage...


It is item N82E16814129205. The link works for me.
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September 2, 2012 6:04:52 AM

VisionTek? Never purchased anything from them before...and it's a reference based card too.
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September 2, 2012 6:06:31 PM

Sorry guys, but I'm going to for the ASUS GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB OC Edition which is $309.99 which fits just under my Budget of 1400 bucks.
I know, you guys can hate me all you want but I have a friend that tells me they are both good cards and that honestly it doesn't matter which one I go for because one card is going to do better in some games than the other and vice versa.
Ending Total Price: $1,363.87
And I did swap in that Samsung SSD one of you guys recommended, so thanks for that....
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September 2, 2012 6:20:30 PM

Yeah ummm...that's $329.99 not $309.99

edit: Okay I don't remember if I said this or rather it's obvious that I live in the States....Florida to be exact.
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a b U Graphics card
September 2, 2012 6:26:14 PM

CagedAlchemist said:
Yeah ummm...that's $329.99 not $309.99

edit: Okay I don't remember if I said this or rather it's obvious that I live in the States....Florida to be exact.

its $309 After Rebate = AR
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September 2, 2012 6:28:05 PM

I usually don't care about rebates because I've tried them in the past and was never really successful.
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a b U Graphics card
September 2, 2012 6:33:54 PM

i had good success with them currently waiting for one from cooler master
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