Caveman vs Astronaut: Astronaut Wins (Technocracy in WoD1)

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I'm watching the Discovery Channel thing on exploring the Bermuda Triangle.

The going theory? Methane.

Cow farts made the triangle.

....

Ok. Not really. But there are deposits of methane under the water. When
it errupts and hits a ship, it momentarily messes up the boyancy, and the
ship goes down.

But what about the planes that fly over it?

Most of the planes that went down were from WWII. Smaller aircraft...flying
at about 1000 feet.

Methane keeps rising into the air.

Planes, hitting methane plumes, makes the plane lose altitude. However, it
makes the equipment read that the plane is gaining altitude. One confused
pilot, pushes the nose down a bit...you've got a crashed plane.

And one day, we'll lose all of our mysteries, and everything will be
explained and rationalized.

Technocracy wins.

 

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Shane Graves wrote:
>
> Planes, hitting methane plumes, makes the plane lose altitude. However, it
> makes the equipment read that the plane is gaining altitude. One confused
> pilot, pushes the nose down a bit...you've got a crashed plane.
>
> And one day, we'll lose all of our mysteries, and everything will be
> explained and rationalized.

I think that scares me more than the mysterious vanishing ships and
planes.
So, now that they've got this methane theory are they going to send out
an expedition (perhaps wearing nose plugs) to scour the ocean floor and
locate all these boat and plane wrecks?

 

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"Stephen Williams"
> Shane Graves wrote:

> > Planes, hitting methane plumes, makes the plane lose altitude. However,
it
> > makes the equipment read that the plane is gaining altitude. One
confused
> > pilot, pushes the nose down a bit...you've got a crashed plane.
> >
> > And one day, we'll lose all of our mysteries, and everything will be
> > explained and rationalized.

> I think that scares me more than the mysterious vanishing ships and
> planes.
> So, now that they've got this methane theory are they going to send out
> an expedition (perhaps wearing nose plugs) to scour the ocean floor and
> locate all these boat and plane wrecks?

They've found a lot of them. But like anything lost at sea, if they haven't
found it yet, they might not find it in the near future.

 

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Stephen Williams wrote:
> Shane Graves wrote:
>
>>Planes, hitting methane plumes, makes the plane lose altitude. However, it
>>makes the equipment read that the plane is gaining altitude. One confused
>>pilot, pushes the nose down a bit...you've got a crashed plane.
>>
>>And one day, we'll lose all of our mysteries, and everything will be
>>explained and rationalized.
>
>
> I think that scares me more than the mysterious vanishing ships and
> planes.


Sigh.

It always annoys me when people bring this particular stupidity up.

Look, people. The complete explanation of everything is a literal
impossibility.

It's a simple matter of math.

To comprehend something is to create something new - the comprehension
of the thing.

Comprehend everything, and you create something new, the comprehension
of everything, whos nature and implications you do not comprehend.

And you can continue this into infinity. The mysterious will never be
gone, for if nothing else there will always be yourself.

William

 

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On Mon, 03 May 2004 05:47:14 GMT, "Shane Graves" <lobsterhut@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>I'm watching the Discovery Channel thing on exploring the Bermuda Triangle.
>
>The going theory? Methane.
>
>Cow farts made the triangle.

Cow farts make the world go round!


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"William"
> Stephen Williams wrote:
> > Shane Graves wrote:

> >>Planes, hitting methane plumes, makes the plane lose altitude. However,
it
> >>makes the equipment read that the plane is gaining altitude. One
confused
> >>pilot, pushes the nose down a bit...you've got a crashed plane.

> >>And one day, we'll lose all of our mysteries, and everything will be
> >>explained and rationalized.

> > I think that scares me more than the mysterious vanishing ships and
> > planes.


> Sigh.

> It always annoys me when people bring this particular stupidity up.

> Look, people. The complete explanation of everything is a literal
> impossibility.

> It's a simple matter of math.

> To comprehend something is to create something new - the comprehension
> of the thing.

> Comprehend everything, and you create something new, the comprehension
> of everything, whos nature and implications you do not comprehend.

> And you can continue this into infinity. The mysterious will never be
> gone, for if nothing else there will always be yourself.

I'm not saying there won't be anything that we won't know.

That's different than "mystery".

Mystery really ties into something more than just not knowing. It's that
air of uncertainty...how mythology seems to creep in and flesh out voids.

Science seems to like having a structure. There are no monsters in the dark
that vanish in the light. There is no rip in space and time. There is what
there is, and we can reproduce anything you think is myth with estrablished
theory.

 

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"Shane Graves" <lobsterhut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:rsBlc.6182$V97.5436@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "William"
> > Stephen Williams wrote:
> > > Shane Graves wrote:
>
> > >>Planes, hitting methane plumes, makes the plane lose altitude.
However,
> it
> > >>makes the equipment read that the plane is gaining altitude. One
> confused
> > >>pilot, pushes the nose down a bit...you've got a crashed plane.
>
> > >>And one day, we'll lose all of our mysteries, and everything will be
> > >>explained and rationalized.
>
> > > I think that scares me more than the mysterious vanishing ships and
> > > planes.
>
>
> > Sigh.
>
> > It always annoys me when people bring this particular stupidity up.
>
> > Look, people. The complete explanation of everything is a literal
> > impossibility.
>
> > It's a simple matter of math.
>
> > To comprehend something is to create something new - the comprehension
> > of the thing.
>
> > Comprehend everything, and you create something new, the comprehension
> > of everything, whos nature and implications you do not comprehend.
>
> > And you can continue this into infinity. The mysterious will never be
> > gone, for if nothing else there will always be yourself.
>
> I'm not saying there won't be anything that we won't know.
>
> That's different than "mystery".
>
> Mystery really ties into something more than just not knowing. It's that
> air of uncertainty...how mythology seems to creep in and flesh out voids.
>
> Science seems to like having a structure. There are no monsters in the
dark
> that vanish in the light. There is no rip in space and time. There is
what
> there is, and we can reproduce anything you think is myth with
estrablished
> theory.

'cept, of course, that mythology usually amounts to an attempt at
explanation and prediction *anyway* - its goal is identical to that of
scientific inquiry, it just comes at it from a different angle.

- Sir Bob.

 

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William wrote:
>
> Stephen Williams wrote:
> > Shane Graves wrote:
> >
> >>Planes, hitting methane plumes, makes the plane lose altitude. However, it
> >>makes the equipment read that the plane is gaining altitude. One confused
> >>pilot, pushes the nose down a bit...you've got a crashed plane.
> >>
> >>And one day, we'll lose all of our mysteries, and everything will be
> >>explained and rationalized.
> >
> >
> > I think that scares me more than the mysterious vanishing ships and
> > planes.
>
> Sigh.
>
> It always annoys me when people bring this particular stupidity up.
>
> Look, people. The complete explanation of everything is a literal
> impossibility.

It might be impossible, but it's still scary. Unlike some people, I
do have the capacity for abstract thought and imagination. It might
never happen, but to imagine if it did is a frightening thing.
And if it annoys you so much, might I suggest you put me on your
killfile? Because this isn't the first, nor will it be the last, time
that I use my imagination to suppose things which are impossible. It
won't be the last time that those figments generate emotional reactions,
and it very well may not be the last time I share those thoughts and
feelings with this newsgroup.
Besides, if this is the most helpful contribution you can give to a
thread like this, I think you'd be doing both of us a favour by
foregoing future replies.