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New Budget gaming build - Compatibility

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October 30, 2012 7:58:14 PM

Hello,
In a few weeks time, i will be building a pc for the very first time and i have already found all the parts i need but i was just wondering if they were all compatible with each other, as i don't want to order them and have them arrive but not work with each other, here are the parts:
Case: CiT Vantage Midi Mesh Gaming Case
http://www.amazon.co.uk/CiT-Vantage-Gaming-Audio-Reader...
CPU: AMD FX4100 Processor 3.6GHz
http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Bulldozer-FX-4100-Socket-Pr...
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Memory 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9-1600MH...
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATAIII 6Gb/s 16MB Cache 3.5 inch Internal Hard Drive OEM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-Caviar-SATAIII-...
Motherboard: Gigabyte 970A-DS3 Motherboard
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-SKT-AM3-970A-DS3-3-1-M...
GPU: AMD Radeon HD7850 2GB
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-11200-14-20G-Card-HD78...
PSU: Antec HCG-520 PSU
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Antec-Current-Gamer-Power-Suppl...
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x Internal SATA DVD Multi Writer Black
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Multi...

Are all these parts compatible with each other? for example will all the parts fit in the case? Is the cpu compatible with the motherboard? Will the CPU bottleneck the GPU? etc.
October 30, 2012 8:32:45 PM

All will fit and work together, however, even if you don't intend to overclock processor, immediately, you will need to, at some stage. When you do, you will need to fit an aftermarket cooler. To ensure there is no clash, with high heat sinks, on RAM, you should use low profile RAM. Suggest Corsair CML, or GSKill Ares.
You've stated it's a budget build, so presume you appreciate that, whilst it has the advantage of being quad core, the FX4100 is possibly the most feeble quad possible. Unfortunately, because it is cheap, it's difficult to suggest a better alternative. At least the motherboard will accept a much better processor, so you can upgrade, as funds are available (I would suggest as soon as possible)
Whilst the case is reasonably well featured, it's poor build quality. A good case can last you years, and no reason, you can't do several re-builds/upgrades, with a well built one, rather than have bits dropping off, or breaking, after a few months. If you can find a little extra, for a better case, you definitely won't regret it, in the long run.
October 30, 2012 8:49:22 PM

What's wrong with the FX4100? Also i do not intend to overclock at all and is the case really that bad in build quality? because it has very good reviews on Amazon.
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October 30, 2012 9:01:31 PM

Wait, i have just stumbled across this cpu that is said to be alot better at gaming than the FX4100, it is called the i3-3220, is it better than the FX4100? as it is within my budget and it has good reviews.
October 30, 2012 10:38:05 PM

Don't believe all you read, on Amazon. Someone who's just upgraded, from some antique, may think it's the best thing since sliced bread. The Fx does have the advantage of having 4 cores, but they are inefficient, and not used to best advantage. Perhaps I slightly exagerate, by calling it useless, but it is poor, in comparason, to the latest tech, like the i3-3220, you mentioned.
For most gaming applications, assuming they're both coupled, with the same decent graphics card, i3-3220 will easily beat Fx-4100, probably by 20%+, even with overclocking, of the FX, which you can't do with i3. That's because most games do not use multiple threads, so the better core performance, of i3, wins out. It has to be said, there are a few games, that do use multiple threads, to improve performance, in multi-player mode, where there may be a large number of players. The most noticeable of those, is BF3. Specifically in MP mode, in BF3, the FX may actually have the edge. That is an exception though, in 95%, of gaming, i3 would win easily.
If you wanted to use i3-3220, you would need a different motherboard, a H77. ASRock do a reasonable budget mATX one, the H77M. Nothing else would need to change.
October 30, 2012 10:42:10 PM

malbluff said:
Don't believe all you read, on Amazon. Someone who's just upgraded, from some antique, may think it's the best thing since sliced bread. The Fx does have the advantage of having 4 cores, but they are inefficient, and not used to best advantage. Perhaps I slightly exagerate, by calling it useless, but it is poor, in comparason, to the latest tech, like the i3-3220, you mentioned.
For most gaming applications, assuming they're both coupled, with the same decent graphics card, i3-3220 will easily beat Fx-4100, probably by 20%+, even with overclocking, of the FX, which you can't do with i3. That's because most games do not use multiple threads, so the better core performance, of i3, wins out. It has to be said, there are a few games, that do use multiple threads, to improve performance, in multi-player mode, where there may be a large number of players. The most noticeable of those, is BF3. Specifically in MP mode, in BF3, the FX may actually have the edge. That is an exception though, in 95%, of gaming, i3 would win easily.
If you wanted to use i3-3220, you would need a different motherboard, a H77. ASRock do a reasonable budget mATX one, the H77M. Nothing else would need to change.


This.

The i3 is probably your best bet for 90% of games out there. It is also less power hungry and to the same effect, cooler.
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