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November 1, 2012 3:09:12 PM

Hope I did this right.

Approximate Purchase Date: Week of X-mas

Budget Range: $5g max

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Internet, Movies, Movie editing, Gaming, ETC

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Parts to Upgrade: Everything

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Mostly Newegg, ncix, and Amazon

Location: Charleston, SC USA

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU, no other particular brands

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe at a later date

Your Monitor Resolution: Unknown at the moment

Additional Comments:
What I want to build, you all will say it is way overkill, ( OK, I know that it is more than overkill ) I want to later add more hard drives and even maybe one day another video card, maybe a few more monitors,and whatever else. That’s why I chose the large psu. And I also chose the 64 gb of ram, because I am just plain tired of a slow PC and also, for future updates. UNLESS you can make me drop to 32 gb or 16 gb with a good enough reason.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading:
Upgrading because my current PC is very old Dell crap, (10 plus years), it would barely run the original DOOM game. I have rebuilt it, added to it, upgraded and maxed it out, and still it now barely runs C&C games. Youtube and DVD movies are choppy and stop for 5 min then start again. I am tired of it and I am now ready to build a PC that will kick butt and then some, and then some more. OK, call me fool, I guess I may be. This may be the only one time that I can be the fool that I want to be, and don’t say that any of you have not wanted to do the same and just go ALMOST all out.
I don’t particularly like all the lights, but if I am going this far I just as well be able to whistle and toot my bells if I need too and let the grandkids say wow.
Most of all tell me IF what I have selected will work with no problems. Then you can tell me what I should or should not do.

My Build: NOTE, most of these parts are from different vendors, but I will probably get most of it from Newegg if possible, regardless of the price.



CPU Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition 3.3GHz 6-Core $949.99

CPU Cooler Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid $100.74

I don’t like the big bulky coolers, and don’t like the looks of a big liquid cooling system. This cooler looks like it will fit between the ram with no problem.

Motherboard Asus P9X79 PRO ATX LGA2011 $297.00

Memory
CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 64GB (8 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 Desktop Memory Model CMD64GX3M8A2133C9 N82E16820233363 $899.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Somewhere, I saw this memory in sets of 4 for $409.99 besides Newegg N82E16820233306 who says it has been discontinued. Seems to me it should be cheaper buying all 8 at one time.


Storage Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM $102.50
Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM $159.49
Intel 520 Series Cherryville 240GB 2.5" SSD $219.99
Intel 520 Series Cherryville 240GB 2.5" SSD $219.99
The two SSD’s I will probably set up as a clone drive

Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB $329.99

Sound Card Creative Labs Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional $109.99

Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition ATX Full Tower $267.50
Don’t put down the case, I am in love with the looks of it, and have to have it.

Power Supply SeaSonic 1250W ATX12V / EPS12V $236.82

Optical Drive Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer $52.99
Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer $56.23
May change, or add a Lightscribe later.

Monitor Asus VK248H-CSM 24.0" $203.50

Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 3-Pack (64-bit) $409.99
3 pack because I plan on also building two more Pc’s for my wife and grandkids, not near as expensive tho.

Keyboard Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013 $139.99

Mouse SteelSeries Diablo III Wired Laser $66.27


Custom
STEELSERIES DIABLO III HEADSET $128.99
N82E16826249066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


NZXT SEN-001LX Sentry LX Aluminum dual bay fan controller $47.99
N82E16811992004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



SIIG JU-MR0A11-S1 USB 3.0 Internal Multi Card Reader 3.5" drive bay $39.99
N82E16811996041
949.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TOTAL SO FAR: $5039.93


Thanks.

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November 1, 2012 3:29:02 PM

You do not need to spend $5K on that PC for what you need it to do, and you certainly do not need to spend $900 on the RAM alone - that is a gigantic waste of money. The Dominator RAM is ridiculously overrated and you don't get anything for the price over spending 1/3 of that on regular RAM. I get not wanting bulky coolers but there's far better out there for the price than an H100. You could get a triple fan Swiftech Edge and get a far superior cooler.

And get a better case - I loathe the Level 10, it's an overrated plastic monstrosity that is fugly and difficult to work with. That fan controller is a waste of money as well. X79 isn't needed for what you need it to do unless you're running heavy duty CS5. I also wouldn't purchase an Intel SSD - I had one and had nothing but problems with it, and getting support for them is horrible.

Here's what I would get if I had your budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP5 TH ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($248.94 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($211.82 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-206DBKS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2281.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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November 1, 2012 3:57:46 PM

Even if you feel like spending a lot of money, you have a few things picked out that just make no sense at all:
In a 5k build you should be getting at least a single Radeon 7970 or GTX 680, not a 660Ti.
You won't see any difference between DDR-1600 RAM and DDR-2133 RAM, so even if we assume you are doing hardcore video editing and actually need 64GB of RAM, get DDR-1600 sticks at way less than half the price.
I don't know why you wouldn't get at least 3TB drives, and in your price range don't even think about the "green" drives- stick with 7200RPM 64MB cache drives.
Your power supply is way overkill, you probably could get 3-way SLI of a 7970, as many hard drives as the motherboard supports, and still not need something that big.


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November 1, 2012 4:03:35 PM

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I don't know why you wouldn't get at least 3TB drives, and in your price range don't even think about the "green" drives- stick with 7200RPM 64MB cache drives.


If you have a solid SSD as your primary there's zero difference between having a 5400 RPM and 7200 RPM as your secondary HD.

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Your power supply is way overkill, you probably could get 3-way SLI of a 7970, as many hard drives as the motherboard supports, and still not need something that big.


According to PC Part Picker that system uses about 500W, if you want to use more than two 7970's *AND* overclock, you're easily looking at a 1050W.
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November 1, 2012 4:33:53 PM

It was painful to read the part list from the OP. Such a waste of money. I like g-units build, almost no one would need anything more for a long time.
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November 1, 2012 4:39:38 PM

for 5 g
ditch that extreme processor
get a custom loop lq atleast 1 gtx680
and 32gb of ram max 64gb will do u nothing actually probably will slow u down from having all those errors on ram your mobo cant handle. go to asus.com and see what ram is compatible for speed and use that ***
get seasonics platinum 1000watt cuz it can power more than 1000watts its rediculously efficient and 7970s are a ridiculous waste of power the money you "save" from not gettin a 680 you lose in powerconsmption in less than a month.

also if u need alot of data to move fast get a western digital raptor a 600 is 180$ at new egg more than enough room for games

and you arent gona be able to overclock that setup you have at all. not with that ram combination and cooling selections. for case get a haf-x they are great for cooling and everything if u want to LC they have room for radiators or any lian-li or a corsair 800d
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November 1, 2012 4:55:47 PM

festerovic said:
It was painful to read the part list from the OP. Such a waste of money. I like g-units build, almost no one would need anything more for a long time.


Yeah really, if I had $5K to spend on a rig, I certainly wouldn't be spending $900 alone on the RAM for no performance gain.
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November 1, 2012 5:02:35 PM

For that same budget, by swapping out some parts with a better price-to-performance ratio, you could pick up a rediculously wicked display.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm not really a fan of laser mice, either. I say look for one with an optical engine that has the highest dpi on it. Such as this one. The design is similar to the old MX518 which is still considered one of the best mice ever.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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November 1, 2012 5:46:59 PM

At least the ram has free shipping. What are you wanting to do with this machine? if you are doing heavy video editing, I am assuming this because of 64GB of ram and the 6 core intel cpu, get the best quadro GPU because it will work much better for editing.

If you want all 64GB get but you only need? 32GB
2x this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video card 670 x3 the 930 savings on the
3x 670s listed here 1125 (so I need to find 200)(only 50 if you get 32GB of ram) (dont know if your 1250 psu is enough for 3)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSDs 360( 80 savings)
2x 240 Munchkin
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

need 120
I would shave it off by cutting the ram down to 32GB You really don't need more then 4 right now most people get 8 because it is playing it safe.
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November 1, 2012 6:00:50 PM

Extra money is better spent on nice monitors than most of the crazy stuff you've got.

16GB of memory is more than enough, in order to need more than that, you would have to be operating on more than 16GB of data at one time. Even video editing, I really doubt it would come up often. Overclocked ram has also been shown to be relatively useless.

I wouldn't go near that case at any price. If you want a toned down case, look at the Fractal Designs Refine R4; if you want something flashier, a CoolerMaster HAF922 (or HAF932, etc) are quite nice. I bought a thermaltake case a few years back, and it was seriously disappointing, very annoying design that is hard to work on (Element G was the model).

GUnits build will get you a lot more of your moneys worth. If you want to go nuts, put the money into monitors... setup an eyefinity array, 3d (do your research, the monitor you need depends on your video card brand), or get some nice IPS panels.

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November 1, 2012 6:13:59 PM

djscribbles said:
Extra money is better spent on nice monitors than most of the crazy stuff you've got.

16GB of memory is more than enough, in order to need more than that, you would have to be operating on more than 16GB of data at one time. Even video editing, I really doubt it would come up often. Overclocked ram has also been shown to be relatively useless.

I wouldn't go near that case at any price. If you want a toned down case, look at the Fractal Designs Refine R4; if you want something flashier, a CoolerMaster HAF922 (or HAF932, etc) are quite nice. I bought a thermaltake case a few years back, and it was seriously disappointing, very annoying design that is hard to work on (Element G was the model).

GUnits build will get you a lot more of your moneys worth. If you want to go nuts, put the money into monitors... setup an eyefinity array, 3d (do your research, the monitor you need depends on your video card brand), or get some nice IPS panels.


Yeah if you're spending that much money on that kind of rig - get some good monitors to match it. That's one component you'll have long after your system is done with.

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For that same budget, by swapping out some parts with a better price-to-performance ratio, you could pick up a rediculously wicked display.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824260038


If you hunt around eBay you can get the same high-res IPS display for 1/2 the cost of that Dell. Check these out:

- http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Yamakasi-Catleap-Q270-27-LE...
- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tempered-Glass-27-Inch-Achieva-...
- http://www.ebay.com/itm/CROSSOVER-27Q-LED-High-Resoluti...
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November 1, 2012 8:01:57 PM

g-unit1111 said:
If you have a solid SSD as your primary there's zero difference between having a 5400 RPM and 7200 RPM as your secondary HD.
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According to PC Part Picker that system uses about 500W, if you want to use more than two 7970's *AND* overclock, you're easily looking at a 1050W.


For the first, I am making the assumption that there is lots of video editing to do (so he *will* be using the spinning drives as more than just storage). And it hardly is *no* difference 5400 to 7200 RPM, just not the difference between 7200RPM and an SSD. But if you are spending $5000, there is no reason to compromise *anywhere*.

For the Power supply , I was referring to the original build which didn't even SLI, let alone 3-way an 7970. I agree that your 1050W is a better solution in the rig you have specified, but if he thinks he can get by with one 660Ti, he probably needs at worst like a 750W supply at $100 and a single high end card.
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November 1, 2012 8:06:52 PM

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For the first, I am making the assumption that there is lots of video editing to do (so he *will* be using the spinning drives as more than just storage). And it hardly is *no* difference 5400 to 7200 RPM, just not the difference between 7200RPM and an SSD. But if you are spending $5000, there is no reason to compromise *anywhere*.


The OP didn't specify whether this was a hardcore editing rig or not. If it was then I would definitely say go X79 and don't compromise. I usually try to get what I feel is the best cost per GB solution, and that's usually high SSD / 2TB HD. There was a while where the Caviar Black HDs were infinitely more expensive than standard drives but now that the prices have dropped some it makes sense in some cases but others it doesn't.

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For the Power supply , I was referring to the original build which didn't even SLI, let alone 3-way an 7970. I agree that your 1050W is a better solution in the rig you have specified, but if he thinks he can get by with one 660Ti, he probably needs at worst like a 750W supply at $100 and a single high end card.


What I'm getting at is if you have the budget, don't use a single 660TI. Why not go nuts and get a Hydro Copper 2? Or dual 7970's? That's where you will see the most benefit from anything.
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