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My gtx260 needs replacement. 7770 or 6850?

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September 5, 2012 8:46:46 AM

Hello all! Been following this great site for years, now hoping to get some advice from great community :-)

My 3-years old PC is: CoreDuo 8500, 4GB RAM ddr2@1200, gtx260 (oc'ed by BFG themselves), Samsung 22" monitor at 1920*1080 (a.nd thats the resoluti)on I want to play at). I'm running win7 home edition 32bit.

Now lately my 260 started to overheat, to the point of crashing the system, and since its one-piece iron brick that cannot be opened outside of laboratory without the risk of permanent damage, and the 3 years warranty ended half year ago, I decided I want to get a new graphics card, without upgrading the entire system (tight on budget atm).

After some research I narrowed my choice to hd7770 and hd6850. NVidia dont have a god card at that price range, while slightly better cards will get bottlenecked by the rest of my system, I'm afraid. Also I'm curious at Ati after being almost 15 years with nVidia :-)

Main intended use - the same as I do now, which is:
Diablo3 at my native res, on high/max details, Guild Wars 2 at native res, med details, and Planetside2 at no metter how low res/details, as long as it runs at competetive fps.

I live in hot climate, so good cooling and temperatures are important. Good energy use as well, since many times my pc is idle for few hours.

I've found a Sapphire 7770 ghz edition OC and Gygabyte 6850 1gb ddr5 at same price, and can't choose. 6850 supposed to be better performer, but more power hungry. Somewhy I t
a c 291 U Graphics card
September 5, 2012 8:53:11 AM

I'd go for HD 7770. It uses less power, overclocks better and radiates less heat. Their performance at stock is similar, however, when you overclock, HD 7770 pulls ahead.
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a c 291 U Graphics card
September 5, 2012 9:06:06 AM

And on others, it will lose... Overall, the performance is similar.
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a c 105 U Graphics card
September 5, 2012 9:06:51 AM

depending on the game, the 6850 will give you as much as 25% more performance over the 7770.
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September 5, 2012 9:14:05 AM

Ty, was thinking the same, but wanted to hear it from someone else as well. Since that 7770 model comes factory overclocked (1120 gpu and 5000 ram, if i'm not mistaken) it should be even faster, right?
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September 5, 2012 9:20:23 AM

7770 really shine in Dx11 games.

As the other said, it is power wise and had good O.C. headroom... (The only lack is how AMD charge us to pay/ it's price IMO)

I'm also go with 7770 ...
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September 5, 2012 11:22:11 AM

I must say you'll be very dissapointed by the performance increase if you upgrade to one of these cards.
That's not to say that they're bad cards its just that theyre no more than a quarter faster than your GTX 260.
And still if i had to choose between those two i'd get the HD 7770.
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September 5, 2012 11:50:31 AM

I agree with swifty_morgan. The 6850 is a *significantly* faster card than the 7770. Particularly for the kind of games you are talking about. It is a good match to a fast Core2Duo. But Kamen is probably right that it is not a massive increase over the 260. The 7770 is a sideways move.

See:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-graphics-card-revi...

I'd be tempted to have a go at opening up the 260 first though - surely there are little jewelery screws somewhare that you can undo to get at the heatsink? I recently opened up an old 6800GT shroud and removed all the fluff from the heatsink which reduced the max temp from high 80s to about 72 degrees. Worth a try.
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September 5, 2012 12:07:12 PM

I take it back, if you look at the chart swifty_morgan posted the 6850 demolishes the 260 in DX10 games.

Anno 1404 @ 1920x1200
6850: 54
7770: 51
260: 35

Far Cry 2 @ 1920x1200
6850: 60
7770: 45
260: 40

In DX11 I always take Metro as a good bench:
6850: 20
7770: 15

If you are going to bin the 260 the 6850 is a pretty obvious choice unless 30w of power consumption makes a difference!
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September 5, 2012 1:43:12 PM

EmperorZakan said:
Ty, was thinking the same, but wanted to hear it from someone else as well. Since that 7770 model comes factory overclocked (1120 gpu and 5000 ram, if i'm not mistaken) it should be even faster, right?


Yes it much faster than normal 7770 Ghz edition (btw that benchmark is for/with reference 7770 Ghz, I asume.)

Looks like i'm miss read about the game u will playing...

SteveH3671 right about Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2 still using dx9, do not know about Planetside2..

As all 7000 series it had terible performance at dx9 and dx10 but it gains more compute power and lower wattage..

It's hard call since u will playing dx9 a lot, hmmm.. I still pick 7770 :D  (just personal preference)
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September 5, 2012 2:00:24 PM

EmperorZakan said:
..... 6850 supposed to be better performer, but more power hungry. Somewhy I .....


I think u fall in love with the 7770... (since u know 6850 will be better but your heart had uneasy feeling) :lol: 


I'm joking, please ignore this post .....



(just trying to lighten up the mood)
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September 5, 2012 4:00:13 PM

I have owned both the 7770 and the 6850. The 7770 is a better card. The benchmarks that swifty_morgan linked to are using drivers that were available June 9. The 7 series gained a significant amount of speed (5%-15% depending on the game) from the 12.6+ drivers that were released June 28.

As a basis, if you play old games or DX9 games, get a 6850. For future proofing and newer titles, the 7770 wins. Factor in overclocking/power consumption and heat and the 7770 wins by even more.

Also, the 7770 will not destroy the 6850 and the 6850 will not destroy the 7770. These cards are usually always within a few FPS of each other stock for stock or overclocked.

For $130 the 7770 is the card to get.
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a c 105 U Graphics card
September 5, 2012 4:26:28 PM

i can't possible see how you can validate that.
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a b U Graphics card
September 5, 2012 4:30:57 PM

but since your pc is over 3 years old you better get the 6850 as it will atleast ensure compatibility with ur pcie slot. 7770 may or may not work. sapphire outright says their 7000 cards only work on pcie 3.0
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a c 291 U Graphics card
September 5, 2012 5:21:29 PM

^
That isn't the truth. If 2.1 card works, so will 3.0. They use same wiring.
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September 5, 2012 6:50:01 PM

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but since your pc is over 3 years old you better get the 6850 as it will atleast ensure compatibility with ur pcie slot. 7770 may or may not work. sapphire outright says their 7000 cards only work on pcie 3.0


Hmm .. that is interesting since my 7770 works perfectly in my system which has PCIE 2.0.

PCIE 3.x is backwards compatible with 2.x.
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a b U Graphics card
September 6, 2012 1:25:47 AM

oh ok. I thought your pc has pcie 1.x. 7000 cards have trouble with 1.x slots
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September 6, 2012 1:56:34 AM

ish416 said:
...........The 7 series gained a significant amount of speed (5%-15% depending on the game) from the 12.6+ drivers that were released June 28.........


+1, missed that...

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September 6, 2012 2:20:56 AM

rdc85 said:
+1, missed that...



and while they were making better drivers for the 7770 the completely forgot about all there other cards.......... really ? I think too many of you guys got GigaHertz on the brain. and it looks contagious.
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September 6, 2012 2:25:18 AM

Wkwkwk... :D .

Actually the new 12.8 broke my 5770 CFX configuration........

So u are so true..... I hate when they do that....
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September 6, 2012 3:16:40 AM

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and while they were making better drivers for the 7770 the completely forgot about all there other cards.......... really ? I think too many of you guys got GigaHertz on the brain. and it looks contagious.


It was the 12.7 Beta drivers that added the performance for the 7 series but it was released at the end of June.


The link since some people missed it... http://blogs.amd.com/play/2012/06/28/the-new-catalyst/ or this one for the 12.8 vs 12.6 drivers .. http://blogs.amd.com/play/2012/08/16/amd-catalyst-12-8-...
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September 6, 2012 3:47:05 AM

Damn, so many replies, all competent and thus confusing! :-) I need to check my MB to make sure I vot the right pcie for it, thankks for bringing that up!
As for increased performance - I'm not that much want to get better card. I would stay with 260 if I could, actualy. But since I HAVE to change it - why not picking some improvements on the side, right?
I would safely take 7770 if not for that 6850's tempting price. Its more of being afraid of taking worse card than I'm paying for, than needing the performance increase. The annoyong voice at the back of your head: "you could get EVEN FASTER card, you sucker!", you know what I mean :-)

Oh, and thanks for calling CoreDuo fast - I wasnt following the hardware market for last few years, and dont realy know how my pc scales to currenf i3/5/7's that seem to be de-facto gaming cpu's now
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