How do I get great results from my D70?
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Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
(unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step by
step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal things
with my p&s camera.
I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
got.
Thanks.
Sheldon
sheldon@sopris.net
Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
(unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step by
step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal things
with my p&s camera.
I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
got.
Thanks.
Sheldon
sheldon@sopris.net
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Geez, I'm rollin' in the aisles after that one.
Oh, sorry, wrong thread, forget what I said above. Don't give up your
day position at the asylum.
Geez, I'm rollin' in the aisles after that one.
Oh, sorry, wrong thread, forget what I said above. Don't give up your
day position at the asylum.
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:25:43 -0700, in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
"Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote:
>Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
>my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
>(unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step by
>step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal things
>with my p&s camera.
>
>I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
>final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
>got.
You might start with Thom Hogan's eBook on the D70.
http://www.bythom.com/d70guide.htm
----------
Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet@EdwardG.Ruf.com)
See images taken with my CP-990/5700 & D70 at
http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/General/index...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:25:43 -0700, in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
"Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote:
>Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
>my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
>(unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step by
>step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal things
>with my p&s camera.
>
>I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
>final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
>got.
You might start with Thom Hogan's eBook on the D70.
http://www.bythom.com/d70guide.htm
----------
Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet@EdwardG.Ruf.com)
See images taken with my CP-990/5700 & D70 at
http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/General/index...
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Sheldon wrote:
> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
> my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step by
> step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal things
> with my p&s camera.
>
> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
> got.
1) Tripod. Cable release. Critical focus.
2) Photoshop
At full size:
After cropping, adjusting brightenss, contrast, color, etc.,
After removing pimples ...
Save the 'master' at full size, no sharpenning
(Don't use the generic sharpen. It will look okay for some images and
will be bad to a disaster on most. USM is a very good tool).
My technique:
-Before entering the filter Set the image to 100% view (IMPORTANT!!!)
-Filter-Unsharp Mask
-Set sharpenning to 100%
-set radius to 0.4
-set levels to 2
Iterate: turn the preview on and off to see the effect of the above
settings and changes. The little windo in the dialog box is faily
useless IMO. Concentrate on in-focus detailed areas of the whole image
view (This is why that needs to be at 100% view).
If not sharp enough looking, then play with the radius. Usually a
radius up to no more than 2.0 will do.
If radius is not effective, then reduce levels, and replay with radius.
If that's not effective, then increase 'sharpness'
Watch EDGES for the formation of halos. When halos appear you have
over sharpened.
When it looks right, save that edition, reload the 'master' of that
image and resize to the next desired size and repeat the above.
KEY: USM is only valid at one size. The settings that work at one size
will not work at another size.
Further, what 'works' depends on the detail captured int he image.
Higher detail typically requires a higher radius number in my experience.
YMMV.
Cheers,
Alan.
--
-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
-- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm
-- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin
-- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.
Sheldon wrote:
> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
> my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step by
> step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal things
> with my p&s camera.
>
> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
> got.
1) Tripod. Cable release. Critical focus.
2) Photoshop
At full size:
After cropping, adjusting brightenss, contrast, color, etc.,
After removing pimples ...
Save the 'master' at full size, no sharpenning
(Don't use the generic sharpen. It will look okay for some images and
will be bad to a disaster on most. USM is a very good tool).
My technique:
-Before entering the filter Set the image to 100% view (IMPORTANT!!!)
-Filter-Unsharp Mask
-Set sharpenning to 100%
-set radius to 0.4
-set levels to 2
Iterate: turn the preview on and off to see the effect of the above
settings and changes. The little windo in the dialog box is faily
useless IMO. Concentrate on in-focus detailed areas of the whole image
view (This is why that needs to be at 100% view).
If not sharp enough looking, then play with the radius. Usually a
radius up to no more than 2.0 will do.
If radius is not effective, then reduce levels, and replay with radius.
If that's not effective, then increase 'sharpness'
Watch EDGES for the formation of halos. When halos appear you have
over sharpened.
When it looks right, save that edition, reload the 'master' of that
image and resize to the next desired size and repeat the above.
KEY: USM is only valid at one size. The settings that work at one size
will not work at another size.
Further, what 'works' depends on the detail captured int he image.
Higher detail typically requires a higher radius number in my experience.
YMMV.
Cheers,
Alan.
--
-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
-- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm
-- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin
-- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.
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Thanks for the tips. This is the kind of info I'm looking for, and should
get me started on the right track. I realize this isn't a one size fits all
approach, but it's something to play with.
Sheldon
"Alan Browne-" <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote in message
news:csukml$q2t$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
> Sheldon wrote:
>> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results
>> from my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
>> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step
>> by step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal
>> things with my p&s camera.
>>
>> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
>> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
>> got.
>
>
> 1) Tripod. Cable release. Critical focus.
>
> 2) Photoshop
>
> At full size:
> After cropping, adjusting brightenss, contrast, color, etc.,
> After removing pimples ...
> Save the 'master' at full size, no sharpenning
>
> (Don't use the generic sharpen. It will look okay for some images and
> will be bad to a disaster on most. USM is a very good tool).
>
> My technique:
>
> -Before entering the filter Set the image to 100% view (IMPORTANT!!!)
>
> -Filter-Unsharp Mask
> -Set sharpenning to 100%
> -set radius to 0.4
> -set levels to 2
>
> Iterate: turn the preview on and off to see the effect of the above
> settings and changes. The little windo in the dialog box is faily useless
> IMO. Concentrate on in-focus detailed areas of the whole image view (This
> is why that needs to be at 100% view).
>
> If not sharp enough looking, then play with the radius. Usually a radius
> up to no more than 2.0 will do.
> If radius is not effective, then reduce levels, and replay with radius.
> If that's not effective, then increase 'sharpness'
>
> Watch EDGES for the formation of halos. When halos appear you have over
> sharpened.
>
> When it looks right, save that edition, reload the 'master' of that image
> and resize to the next desired size and repeat the above.
>
> KEY: USM is only valid at one size. The settings that work at one size
> will not work at another size.
> Further, what 'works' depends on the detail captured int he image. Higher
> detail typically requires a higher radius number in my experience.
>
> YMMV.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan.
> --
> -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
> -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm
> -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin
> -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.
Thanks for the tips. This is the kind of info I'm looking for, and should
get me started on the right track. I realize this isn't a one size fits all
approach, but it's something to play with.
Sheldon
"Alan Browne-" <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote in message
news:csukml$q2t$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
> Sheldon wrote:
>> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results
>> from my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
>> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step
>> by step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal
>> things with my p&s camera.
>>
>> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
>> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
>> got.
>
>
> 1) Tripod. Cable release. Critical focus.
>
> 2) Photoshop
>
> At full size:
> After cropping, adjusting brightenss, contrast, color, etc.,
> After removing pimples ...
> Save the 'master' at full size, no sharpenning
>
> (Don't use the generic sharpen. It will look okay for some images and
> will be bad to a disaster on most. USM is a very good tool).
>
> My technique:
>
> -Before entering the filter Set the image to 100% view (IMPORTANT!!!)
>
> -Filter-Unsharp Mask
> -Set sharpenning to 100%
> -set radius to 0.4
> -set levels to 2
>
> Iterate: turn the preview on and off to see the effect of the above
> settings and changes. The little windo in the dialog box is faily useless
> IMO. Concentrate on in-focus detailed areas of the whole image view (This
> is why that needs to be at 100% view).
>
> If not sharp enough looking, then play with the radius. Usually a radius
> up to no more than 2.0 will do.
> If radius is not effective, then reduce levels, and replay with radius.
> If that's not effective, then increase 'sharpness'
>
> Watch EDGES for the formation of halos. When halos appear you have over
> sharpened.
>
> When it looks right, save that edition, reload the 'master' of that image
> and resize to the next desired size and repeat the above.
>
> KEY: USM is only valid at one size. The settings that work at one size
> will not work at another size.
> Further, what 'works' depends on the detail captured int he image. Higher
> detail typically requires a higher radius number in my experience.
>
> YMMV.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan.
> --
> -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
> -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm
> -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin
> -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.
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Here's an intro to photoshop for photography:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/instant_pho...
although I would skip levels & find another tutorial for curves.
Here's an intro to photoshop for photography:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/instant_pho...
although I would skip levels & find another tutorial for curves.
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Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> <chrlz@go.com> wrote in message
> news:1106437139.032740.132720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Geez, I'm rollin' in the aisles after that one.
> >
> >
> > Oh, sorry, wrong thread, forget what I said above. Don't give up
your
>
> =======================
>
> I'm afraid that there's no possibility of that - not with the
suspicious
> buggers that they have on mental health review boards these days!
>
> So it looks as though I'll be in the St Ignatius photography group
for quite
> some time to come - oddly enough, some of our keenest members are
from the
> Saint Vitus Dance section, Oih Veh!! - talk about blurry
images!!!.....
Its *Oy Vey*, scumbag.
Susan
Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> <chrlz@go.com> wrote in message
> news:1106437139.032740.132720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Geez, I'm rollin' in the aisles after that one.
> >
> >
> > Oh, sorry, wrong thread, forget what I said above. Don't give up
your
>
> =======================
>
> I'm afraid that there's no possibility of that - not with the
suspicious
> buggers that they have on mental health review boards these days!
>
> So it looks as though I'll be in the St Ignatius photography group
for quite
> some time to come - oddly enough, some of our keenest members are
from the
> Saint Vitus Dance section, Oih Veh!! - talk about blurry
images!!!.....
Its *Oy Vey*, scumbag.
Susan
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Sheldon wrote:
> > One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is to
fill
> > the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
> >
> > One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital Snappers)
went a
> > step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the dust
cap,
> > and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments of
bacon
> > and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't
work) all
> > over the sensor.
>
> I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a real
bitch
> prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the D70.
The
> lens just pops right off making the procedure much easier. By the
way, can
> I use vegetarian Bacon Bits instead of real bacon?
Vegetable oil should work fine as a substitute.
I think Pinky mentioned Vaseline because the
dirty little pig likes being smeared with it.
Susan
Sheldon wrote:
> > One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is to
fill
> > the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
> >
> > One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital Snappers)
went a
> > step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the dust
cap,
> > and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments of
bacon
> > and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't
work) all
> > over the sensor.
>
> I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a real
bitch
> prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the D70.
The
> lens just pops right off making the procedure much easier. By the
way, can
> I use vegetarian Bacon Bits instead of real bacon?
Vegetable oil should work fine as a substitute.
I think Pinky mentioned Vaseline because the
dirty little pig likes being smeared with it.
Susan
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Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> "Susan Cohen" wrote
> > Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> >> <chrlz@go.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1106437139.032740.132720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> > Geez, I'm rollin' in the aisles after that one.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Oh, sorry, wrong thread, forget what I said above. Don't give
up
> > your
> >>
> >> =======================
> >>
> >> I'm afraid that there's no possibility of that - not with the
> > suspicious
> >> buggers that they have on mental health review boards these days!
> >>
> >> So it looks as though I'll be in the St Ignatius photography group
> > for quite
> >> some time to come - oddly enough, some of our keenest members are
> > from the
> >> Saint Vitus Dance section, Oih Veh!! - talk about blurry
> > images!!!.....
> >
> > Its *Oy Vey*, scumbag.
>
> ======================================
>
> Sorry about your glamour photo's, dear, but, as I've already
explained, it
> wasn't my fault - a 7 mm extreme wide-angle lens, already!, and I
*still*
> couldn't fit your entire body in the frame!!!
Next time use the fish-eye and stand further back.
>.....Oih Veh!! (which is how we
> pronounce it a Wigan synagogue...)
Sure it is.
Susan
Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> "Susan Cohen" wrote
> > Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> >> <chrlz@go.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1106437139.032740.132720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> > Geez, I'm rollin' in the aisles after that one.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Oh, sorry, wrong thread, forget what I said above. Don't give
up
> > your
> >>
> >> =======================
> >>
> >> I'm afraid that there's no possibility of that - not with the
> > suspicious
> >> buggers that they have on mental health review boards these days!
> >>
> >> So it looks as though I'll be in the St Ignatius photography group
> > for quite
> >> some time to come - oddly enough, some of our keenest members are
> > from the
> >> Saint Vitus Dance section, Oih Veh!! - talk about blurry
> > images!!!.....
> >
> > Its *Oy Vey*, scumbag.
>
> ======================================
>
> Sorry about your glamour photo's, dear, but, as I've already
explained, it
> wasn't my fault - a 7 mm extreme wide-angle lens, already!, and I
*still*
> couldn't fit your entire body in the frame!!!
Next time use the fish-eye and stand further back.
>.....Oih Veh!! (which is how we
> pronounce it a Wigan synagogue...)
Sure it is.
Susan
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Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> "Susan Cohen" wrote
> > Sheldon wrote:
> >> > One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is
to
> > fill
> >> > the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
> >> >
> >> > One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital
Snappers)
> > went a
> >> > step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the
dust
> > cap,
> >> > and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments
of
> > bacon
> >> > and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't
> > work) all
> >> > over the sensor.
> >>
> >> I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a real
> > bitch
> >> prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the
D70.
> > The
> >> lens just pops right off making the procedure much easier. By the
> > way, can
> >> I use vegetarian Bacon Bits instead of real bacon?
> >
> > Vegetable oil should work fine as a substitute.
> > I think Pinky mentioned Vaseline because the
> > dirty little pig likes being smeared with it.
> >
> > Susan
> >
>
> =========================
>
> Or, as we used to chant in school.....
>
> "Rich girls, the use Vaseline,
> Poor girls, they use lard,
> Dinah uses axle grease
> Because her Canon EF-S 17-85MM F/4-5.6 IS USM lens mount is so
hard"
>
> (or summat like that...)
I always preferred the Nikon bayonet mount myself.
Never had a problem with it.
Susan
Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> "Susan Cohen" wrote
> > Sheldon wrote:
> >> > One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is
to
> > fill
> >> > the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
> >> >
> >> > One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital
Snappers)
> > went a
> >> > step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the
dust
> > cap,
> >> > and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments
of
> > bacon
> >> > and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't
> > work) all
> >> > over the sensor.
> >>
> >> I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a real
> > bitch
> >> prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the
D70.
> > The
> >> lens just pops right off making the procedure much easier. By the
> > way, can
> >> I use vegetarian Bacon Bits instead of real bacon?
> >
> > Vegetable oil should work fine as a substitute.
> > I think Pinky mentioned Vaseline because the
> > dirty little pig likes being smeared with it.
> >
> > Susan
> >
>
> =========================
>
> Or, as we used to chant in school.....
>
> "Rich girls, the use Vaseline,
> Poor girls, they use lard,
> Dinah uses axle grease
> Because her Canon EF-S 17-85MM F/4-5.6 IS USM lens mount is so
hard"
>
> (or summat like that...)
I always preferred the Nikon bayonet mount myself.
Never had a problem with it.
Susan
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Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> "Susan Cohen" wrote
> > Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> >> "Susan Cohen" wrote
> >> > Sheldon wrote:
> >> >> > One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com
is
> > to
> >> > fill
> >> >> > the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital
> > Snappers)
> >> > went a
> >> >> > step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing
the
> > dust
> >> > cap,
> >> >> > and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained
fragments
> > of
> >> > bacon
> >> >> > and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil
wouldn't
> >> > work) all
> >> >> > over the sensor.
> >> >>
> >> >> I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a
real
> >> > bitch
> >> >> prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the
> > D70.
> >> > The
> >> >> lens just pops right off making the procedure much easier. By
the
> >> > way, can
> >> >> I use vegetarian Bacon Bits instead of real bacon?
> >> >
> >> > Vegetable oil should work fine as a substitute.
> >> > I think Pinky mentioned Vaseline because the
> >> > dirty little pig likes being smeared with it.
> >> >
> >> > Susan
> >> >
> >>
> >> =========================
> >>
> >> Or, as we used to chant in school.....
> >>
> >> "Rich girls, the use Vaseline,
> >> Poor girls, they use lard,
> >> Dinah uses axle grease
> >> Because her Canon EF-S 17-85MM F/4-5.6 IS USM lens mount is so
> > hard"
> >>
> >> (or summat like that...)
> >
> > I always preferred the Nikon bayonet mount myself.
> > Never had a problem with it.
>
>
> ==================================
>
> Yes, well, you're the Photographer!
>
> You know, my dear, I'm really going to have to treat this newsgroup
like the
> rest of my delicate ;electronic equipment and make it 'Serge'
protected!!
Who is Serge?
Besides all you really need is a good tripod to stop all those
nasty vibrations from ruining your holiday snaps.
Susan
Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> "Susan Cohen" wrote
> > Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> >> "Susan Cohen" wrote
> >> > Sheldon wrote:
> >> >> > One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com
is
> > to
> >> > fill
> >> >> > the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital
> > Snappers)
> >> > went a
> >> >> > step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing
the
> > dust
> >> > cap,
> >> >> > and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained
fragments
> > of
> >> > bacon
> >> >> > and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil
wouldn't
> >> > work) all
> >> >> > over the sensor.
> >> >>
> >> >> I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a
real
> >> > bitch
> >> >> prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the
> > D70.
> >> > The
> >> >> lens just pops right off making the procedure much easier. By
the
> >> > way, can
> >> >> I use vegetarian Bacon Bits instead of real bacon?
> >> >
> >> > Vegetable oil should work fine as a substitute.
> >> > I think Pinky mentioned Vaseline because the
> >> > dirty little pig likes being smeared with it.
> >> >
> >> > Susan
> >> >
> >>
> >> =========================
> >>
> >> Or, as we used to chant in school.....
> >>
> >> "Rich girls, the use Vaseline,
> >> Poor girls, they use lard,
> >> Dinah uses axle grease
> >> Because her Canon EF-S 17-85MM F/4-5.6 IS USM lens mount is so
> > hard"
> >>
> >> (or summat like that...)
> >
> > I always preferred the Nikon bayonet mount myself.
> > Never had a problem with it.
>
>
> ==================================
>
> Yes, well, you're the Photographer!
>
> You know, my dear, I'm really going to have to treat this newsgroup
like the
> rest of my delicate ;electronic equipment and make it 'Serge'
protected!!
Who is Serge?
Besides all you really need is a good tripod to stop all those
nasty vibrations from ruining your holiday snaps.
Susan
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In article <csukml$q2t$1@inews.gazeta.pl>,
Alan Browne- <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>Sheldon wrote:
[ ... ]
>> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
>> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
>> got.
>
>
>1) Tripod. Cable release. Critical focus.
I'll leave the Photoshop advice alone, but I do wonder how you
can use a cable release on the D70. Your choice appears to be to either
use the (optional) remote control, or to use a computer connected to it
via USB cable.
This makes me wonder whether it is possible to make an
electronic cable release for the camera using a programmable microchip
with a USB interface?
Enjoy,
DoN.
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In article <csukml$q2t$1@inews.gazeta.pl>,
Alan Browne- <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>Sheldon wrote:
[ ... ]
>> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
>> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
>> got.
>
>
>1) Tripod. Cable release. Critical focus.
I'll leave the Photoshop advice alone, but I do wonder how you
can use a cable release on the D70. Your choice appears to be to either
use the (optional) remote control, or to use a computer connected to it
via USB cable.
This makes me wonder whether it is possible to make an
electronic cable release for the camera using a programmable microchip
with a USB interface?
Enjoy,
DoN.
--
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"Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
news:rpWdncl9tMH9B2_cRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
> my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step
> by step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal
> things with my p&s camera.
>
> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
> got.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sheldon
> sheldon@sopris.net
You will have to learn Photoshop if you want high quality shots, without it
they will be pale in comparison to others who know how to use it.
MT
"Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
news:rpWdncl9tMH9B2_cRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
> my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step
> by step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal
> things with my p&s camera.
>
> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
> got.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sheldon
> sheldon@sopris.net
You will have to learn Photoshop if you want high quality shots, without it
they will be pale in comparison to others who know how to use it.
MT
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Mac Tabak commented courteously ...
> You will have to learn Photoshop if you want
> high quality shots, without it they will be
> pale in comparison to others who know how to
> use it.
Or, Paint Shop Pro 9, at 1/5 the price. But then, it
matters much more how good you are with a graphics program
than it does which one you buy!
--
[when I get un-lazy, my sig will go here]
Mac Tabak commented courteously ...
> You will have to learn Photoshop if you want
> high quality shots, without it they will be
> pale in comparison to others who know how to
> use it.
Or, Paint Shop Pro 9, at 1/5 the price. But then, it
matters much more how good you are with a graphics program
than it does which one you buy!
--
[when I get un-lazy, my sig will go here]
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"Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
news:rpWdncl9tMH9B2_cRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
> my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step
> by step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal
> things with my p&s camera.
>
> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
> got.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sheldon
> sheldon@sopris.net
>
>
One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is to fill the
body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital Snappers) went a
step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the dust cap, and
pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments of bacon and egg
yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't work) all over the
sensor.
He swore that it made a very noticeable difference - and I see no reason to
disbelieve him.
(note - hot fat can be dangerous - unless you have a steady hand, get
someone else to pour it in)
"Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
news:rpWdncl9tMH9B2_cRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
> my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step
> by step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal
> things with my p&s camera.
>
> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
> got.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sheldon
> sheldon@sopris.net
>
>
One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is to fill the
body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital Snappers) went a
step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the dust cap, and
pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments of bacon and egg
yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't work) all over the
sensor.
He swore that it made a very noticeable difference - and I see no reason to
disbelieve him.
(note - hot fat can be dangerous - unless you have a steady hand, get
someone else to pour it in)
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> One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is to fill
> the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
>
> One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital Snappers) went a
> step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the dust cap,
> and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments of bacon
> and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't work) all
> over the sensor.
I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a real bitch
prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the D70. The
lens just pops right off making the procedure much easier. By the way, can
I use vegetarian Bacon Bits instead of real bacon?
> One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is to fill
> the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
>
> One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital Snappers) went a
> step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the dust cap,
> and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments of bacon
> and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't work) all
> over the sensor.
I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a real bitch
prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the D70. The
lens just pops right off making the procedure much easier. By the way, can
I use vegetarian Bacon Bits instead of real bacon?
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What if you use the self timer, although I hear the camera resets after you
use it.
"DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
news:csuubd$ifr$1@fuego.d-and-d.com...
> In article <csukml$q2t$1@inews.gazeta.pl>,
> Alan Browne- <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>Sheldon wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
>>> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure
>>> my
>>> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment
>>> I've
>>> got.
>>
>>
>>1) Tripod. Cable release. Critical focus.
>
> I'll leave the Photoshop advice alone, but I do wonder how you
> can use a cable release on the D70. Your choice appears to be to either
> use the (optional) remote control, or to use a computer connected to it
> via USB cable.
>
> This makes me wonder whether it is possible to make an
> electronic cable release for the camera using a programmable microchip
> with a USB interface?
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
> --
> Email: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
> (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
> --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---
What if you use the self timer, although I hear the camera resets after you
use it.
"DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
news:csuubd$ifr$1@fuego.d-and-d.com...
> In article <csukml$q2t$1@inews.gazeta.pl>,
> Alan Browne- <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>Sheldon wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
>>> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure
>>> my
>>> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment
>>> I've
>>> got.
>>
>>
>>1) Tripod. Cable release. Critical focus.
>
> I'll leave the Photoshop advice alone, but I do wonder how you
> can use a cable release on the D70. Your choice appears to be to either
> use the (optional) remote control, or to use a computer connected to it
> via USB cable.
>
> This makes me wonder whether it is possible to make an
> electronic cable release for the camera using a programmable microchip
> with a USB interface?
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
> --
> Email: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
> (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
> --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---
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Thanks.
"paul" <paul@not.net> wrote in message
news:iuudnX0or7rnnm7cRVn-pQ@speakeasy.net...
> Here's an intro to photoshop for photography:
> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/instant_pho...
> although I would skip levels & find another tutorial for curves.
Thanks.
"paul" <paul@not.net> wrote in message
news:iuudnX0or7rnnm7cRVn-pQ@speakeasy.net...
> Here's an intro to photoshop for photography:
> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/instant_pho...
> although I would skip levels & find another tutorial for curves.
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<chrlz@go.com> wrote in message
news:1106437139.032740.132720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Geez, I'm rollin' in the aisles after that one.
>
>
> Oh, sorry, wrong thread, forget what I said above. Don't give up your
=======================
I'm afraid that there's no possibility of that - not with the suspicious
buggers that they have on mental health review boards these days!
So it looks as though I'll be in the St Ignatius photography group for quite
some time to come - oddly enough, some of our keenest members are from the
Saint Vitus Dance section, Oih Veh!! - talk about blurry images!!!.....
<chrlz@go.com> wrote in message
news:1106437139.032740.132720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Geez, I'm rollin' in the aisles after that one.
>
>
> Oh, sorry, wrong thread, forget what I said above. Don't give up your
=======================
I'm afraid that there's no possibility of that - not with the suspicious
buggers that they have on mental health review boards these days!
So it looks as though I'll be in the St Ignatius photography group for quite
some time to come - oddly enough, some of our keenest members are from the
Saint Vitus Dance section, Oih Veh!! - talk about blurry images!!!.....
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"Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
news:rpWdncl9tMH9B2_cRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
> my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step
by
> step primer out there.
In this case, "How to Wow Photoshop for Photography" by Jack Davis and Ben
Willmore will probably show you some of the more interesting techniques.
"Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
news:rpWdncl9tMH9B2_cRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
> my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step
by
> step primer out there.
In this case, "How to Wow Photoshop for Photography" by Jack Davis and Ben
Willmore will probably show you some of the more interesting techniques.
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"Susan Cohen" <flabbyass@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106449007.490014.196370@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
>> <chrlz@go.com> wrote in message
>> news:1106437139.032740.132720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> > Geez, I'm rollin' in the aisles after that one.
>> >
>> >
>> > Oh, sorry, wrong thread, forget what I said above. Don't give up
> your
>>
>> =======================
>>
>> I'm afraid that there's no possibility of that - not with the
> suspicious
>> buggers that they have on mental health review boards these days!
>>
>> So it looks as though I'll be in the St Ignatius photography group
> for quite
>> some time to come - oddly enough, some of our keenest members are
> from the
>> Saint Vitus Dance section, Oih Veh!! - talk about blurry
> images!!!.....
>
> Its *Oy Vey*, scumbag.
======================================
Sorry about your glamour photo's, dear, but, as I've already explained, it
wasn't my fault - a 7 mm extreme wide-angle lens, already!, and I *still*
couldn't fit your entire body in the frame!!!.....Oih Veh!! (which is how we
pronounce it a Wigan synagogue...)
"Susan Cohen" <flabbyass@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106449007.490014.196370@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
>> <chrlz@go.com> wrote in message
>> news:1106437139.032740.132720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> > Geez, I'm rollin' in the aisles after that one.
>> >
>> >
>> > Oh, sorry, wrong thread, forget what I said above. Don't give up
> your
>>
>> =======================
>>
>> I'm afraid that there's no possibility of that - not with the
> suspicious
>> buggers that they have on mental health review boards these days!
>>
>> So it looks as though I'll be in the St Ignatius photography group
> for quite
>> some time to come - oddly enough, some of our keenest members are
> from the
>> Saint Vitus Dance section, Oih Veh!! - talk about blurry
> images!!!.....
>
> Its *Oy Vey*, scumbag.
======================================
Sorry about your glamour photo's, dear, but, as I've already explained, it
wasn't my fault - a 7 mm extreme wide-angle lens, already!, and I *still*
couldn't fit your entire body in the frame!!!.....Oih Veh!! (which is how we
pronounce it a Wigan synagogue...)
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"Susan Cohen" <flabbyass@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106449232.253995.159930@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Sheldon wrote:
>> > One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is to
> fill
>> > the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
>> >
>> > One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital Snappers)
> went a
>> > step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the dust
> cap,
>> > and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments of
> bacon
>> > and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't
> work) all
>> > over the sensor.
>>
>> I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a real
> bitch
>> prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the D70.
> The
>> lens just pops right off making the procedure much easier. By the
> way, can
>> I use vegetarian Bacon Bits instead of real bacon?
>
> Vegetable oil should work fine as a substitute.
> I think Pinky mentioned Vaseline because the
> dirty little pig likes being smeared with it.
>
> Susan
>
=========================
Or, as we used to chant in school.....
"Rich girls, the use Vaseline,
Poor girls, they use lard,
Dinah uses axle grease
Because her Canon EF-S 17-85MM F/4-5.6 IS USM lens mount is so hard"
(or summat like that...)
"Susan Cohen" <flabbyass@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106449232.253995.159930@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Sheldon wrote:
>> > One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is to
> fill
>> > the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
>> >
>> > One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital Snappers)
> went a
>> > step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the dust
> cap,
>> > and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments of
> bacon
>> > and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't
> work) all
>> > over the sensor.
>>
>> I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a real
> bitch
>> prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the D70.
> The
>> lens just pops right off making the procedure much easier. By the
> way, can
>> I use vegetarian Bacon Bits instead of real bacon?
>
> Vegetable oil should work fine as a substitute.
> I think Pinky mentioned Vaseline because the
> dirty little pig likes being smeared with it.
>
> Susan
>
=========================
Or, as we used to chant in school.....
"Rich girls, the use Vaseline,
Poor girls, they use lard,
Dinah uses axle grease
Because her Canon EF-S 17-85MM F/4-5.6 IS USM lens mount is so hard"
(or summat like that...)
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DoN. Nichols wrote:
>
> I'll leave the Photoshop advice alone, but I do wonder how you
> can use a cable release on the D70. Your choice appears to be to either
> use the (optional) remote control, or to use a computer connected to it
> via USB cable.
>
> This makes me wonder whether it is possible to make an
> electronic cable release for the camera using a programmable microchip
> with a USB interface?
The D70 doesn't have a cable release?! Tsk-Tsk. So much for those who
refer to it as high end... it's not even middle-end.
Does it have a timer?
Cheers,
Alan
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DoN. Nichols wrote:
>
> I'll leave the Photoshop advice alone, but I do wonder how you
> can use a cable release on the D70. Your choice appears to be to either
> use the (optional) remote control, or to use a computer connected to it
> via USB cable.
>
> This makes me wonder whether it is possible to make an
> electronic cable release for the camera using a programmable microchip
> with a USB interface?
The D70 doesn't have a cable release?! Tsk-Tsk. So much for those who
refer to it as high end... it's not even middle-end.
Does it have a timer?
Cheers,
Alan
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-- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm
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-- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:41:23 -0500, Alan Browne-
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>The D70 doesn't have a cable release?! Tsk-Tsk. So much for those who
>refer to it as high end... it's not even middle-end.
No, actually, it's a *low end* DSLR.
Who is referring to it as "high end"?
Anyway, no, it does not have a cable release. Instead, it uses an
ML-L3 Wireless Remote Control that cost $16, if you can find one in
stock.
Or, you can program most TV remote controls to do the same thing.
>Does it have a timer?
Yes it has a self-timer, except the only problem is that it defaults
back to normal shutter release every time you use it. So you have to
re-set it to self-timer for every subsequent self-timed shot.
I wish they would/could fix the self-timer reset nonsense with a
firmware rev.
-Astro
---
AstroPax Photography
http://nikon.astropax.com
---
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:41:23 -0500, Alan Browne-
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>The D70 doesn't have a cable release?! Tsk-Tsk. So much for those who
>refer to it as high end... it's not even middle-end.
No, actually, it's a *low end* DSLR.
Who is referring to it as "high end"?
Anyway, no, it does not have a cable release. Instead, it uses an
ML-L3 Wireless Remote Control that cost $16, if you can find one in
stock.
Or, you can program most TV remote controls to do the same thing.
>Does it have a timer?
Yes it has a self-timer, except the only problem is that it defaults
back to normal shutter release every time you use it. So you have to
re-set it to self-timer for every subsequent self-timed shot.
I wish they would/could fix the self-timer reset nonsense with a
firmware rev.
-Astro
---
AstroPax Photography
http://nikon.astropax.com
---
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AstroPax wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:41:23 -0500, Alan Browne-
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>
>>The D70 doesn't have a cable release?! Tsk-Tsk. So much for those who
>>refer to it as high end... it's not even middle-end.
>
>
> No, actually, it's a *low end* DSLR.
>
> Who is referring to it as "high end"?
Certainly not me. See "Finally did it" thread...
>
> Anyway, no, it does not have a cable release. Instead, it uses an
> ML-L3 Wireless Remote Control that cost $16, if you can find one in
> stock.
That's an acceptable alternate. At that price, cheaper than most
>
> Or, you can program most TV remote controls to do the same thing.
Even better. Maybe not, better to have a proper shutter like switch to
do the job if possible.
>
>
>>Does it have a timer?
>
>
> Yes it has a self-timer, except the only problem is that it defaults
> back to normal shutter release every time you use it. So you have to
> re-set it to self-timer for every subsequent self-timed shot.
>
> I wish they would/could fix the self-timer reset nonsense with a
> firmware rev.
And ... does it have a timer mode that lifts the mirror a couple seconds
ahead of the shutter release? (a quick look at dpreview is inconclusive..)
Cheers,
Alan
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AstroPax wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:41:23 -0500, Alan Browne-
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>
>>The D70 doesn't have a cable release?! Tsk-Tsk. So much for those who
>>refer to it as high end... it's not even middle-end.
>
>
> No, actually, it's a *low end* DSLR.
>
> Who is referring to it as "high end"?
Certainly not me. See "Finally did it" thread...
>
> Anyway, no, it does not have a cable release. Instead, it uses an
> ML-L3 Wireless Remote Control that cost $16, if you can find one in
> stock.
That's an acceptable alternate. At that price, cheaper than most
>
> Or, you can program most TV remote controls to do the same thing.
Even better. Maybe not, better to have a proper shutter like switch to
do the job if possible.
>
>
>>Does it have a timer?
>
>
> Yes it has a self-timer, except the only problem is that it defaults
> back to normal shutter release every time you use it. So you have to
> re-set it to self-timer for every subsequent self-timed shot.
>
> I wish they would/could fix the self-timer reset nonsense with a
> firmware rev.
And ... does it have a timer mode that lifts the mirror a couple seconds
ahead of the shutter release? (a quick look at dpreview is inconclusive..)
Cheers,
Alan
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:49:37 -0500, Alan Browne-
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>And ... does it have a timer mode that lifts the mirror a couple seconds
>ahead of the shutter release? (a quick look at dpreview is inconclusive..)
No, it does not have a mirror lock-up (anti-shock) mode.
However, all other current Nikon D series (including the D2X) are
equipped with a mirror lock-up (anti-shock) mode.
On a similar note: The D70 does have a function that will lock-up the
mirror for sensor cleaning.
-Astro
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:49:37 -0500, Alan Browne-
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>And ... does it have a timer mode that lifts the mirror a couple seconds
>ahead of the shutter release? (a quick look at dpreview is inconclusive..)
No, it does not have a mirror lock-up (anti-shock) mode.
However, all other current Nikon D series (including the D2X) are
equipped with a mirror lock-up (anti-shock) mode.
On a similar note: The D70 does have a function that will lock-up the
mirror for sensor cleaning.
-Astro
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"Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
news
bCdnewqHO4tam_cRVn-rA@comcast.com...
>> One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is to fill
>> the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
>>
>> One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital Snappers) went a
>> step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the dust cap,
>> and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments of bacon
>> and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't work) all
>> over the sensor.
>
> I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a real bitch
> prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the D70<
=======================
That's a fairly typical newbie error - with P&S cameras you have to take out
the batteries and trickle the fat in through the battery compartment.
Smaller electronics, like mobile phone's, on the other hand, work best if
completely immersed in a deep fryer, or similar(I always find that those
amusing musical ring tones sound better afterwards)
Don't be too hard on yourself , you'll learn - we all made the same mistakes
when starting out.
"Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
news
bCdnewqHO4tam_cRVn-rA@comcast.com...>> One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is to fill
>> the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
>>
>> One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital Snappers) went a
>> step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the dust cap,
>> and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments of bacon
>> and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't work) all
>> over the sensor.
>
> I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a real bitch
> prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the D70<
=======================
That's a fairly typical newbie error - with P&S cameras you have to take out
the batteries and trickle the fat in through the battery compartment.
Smaller electronics, like mobile phone's, on the other hand, work best if
completely immersed in a deep fryer, or similar(I always find that those
amusing musical ring tones sound better afterwards)
Don't be too hard on yourself , you'll learn - we all made the same mistakes
when starting out.
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In article <dYSdnQ3zbtFCrW7cRVn-3w@comcast.com>,
Sheldon <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote:
[ ... ]
>"DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
>news:csuubd$ifr$1@fuego.d-and-d.com...
[ ... ]
>> I'll leave the Photoshop advice alone, but I do wonder how you
>> can use a cable release on the D70. Your choice appears to be to either
>> use the (optional) remote control, or to use a computer connected to it
>> via USB cable.
>>
>> This makes me wonder whether it is possible to make an
>> electronic cable release for the camera using a programmable microchip
>> with a USB interface?
>What if you use the self timer, although I hear the camera resets after you
>use it.
I thought of that after I hit 'S'end. :-) But it does strike me
as being rather awkward, in any case.
I have not yet used the self timer, so I wonder -- does the
mirror move when you start the self timer, allowing the induced
vibration to settle down before the actual shutter actuation?
Enjoy,
DoN.
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In article <dYSdnQ3zbtFCrW7cRVn-3w@comcast.com>,
Sheldon <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote:
[ ... ]
>"DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
>news:csuubd$ifr$1@fuego.d-and-d.com...
[ ... ]
>> I'll leave the Photoshop advice alone, but I do wonder how you
>> can use a cable release on the D70. Your choice appears to be to either
>> use the (optional) remote control, or to use a computer connected to it
>> via USB cable.
>>
>> This makes me wonder whether it is possible to make an
>> electronic cable release for the camera using a programmable microchip
>> with a USB interface?
>What if you use the self timer, although I hear the camera resets after you
>use it.
I thought of that after I hit 'S'end. :-) But it does strike me
as being rather awkward, in any case.
I have not yet used the self timer, so I wonder -- does the
mirror move when you start the self timer, allowing the induced
vibration to settle down before the actual shutter actuation?
Enjoy,
DoN.
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"AstroPax" <astro@astropax.com> wrote in message
news:ims7v0tm5argaovb7usi0h9mu9j1cjm74b@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:49:37 -0500, Alan Browne-
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>And ... does it have a timer mode that lifts the mirror a couple seconds
>>ahead of the shutter release? (a quick look at dpreview is
>>inconclusive..)
>
> No, it does not have a mirror lock-up (anti-shock) mode.
>
> However, all other current Nikon D series (including the D2X) are
> equipped with a mirror lock-up (anti-shock) mode.
>
> On a similar note: The D70 does have a function that will lock-up the
> mirror for sensor cleaning.
>
> -Astro
When you think about it, how bad can the vibration be, as the mirror on the
D70 is smaller (lighter?) than a full-frame DSLR or a 35mm camera?
"AstroPax" <astro@astropax.com> wrote in message
news:ims7v0tm5argaovb7usi0h9mu9j1cjm74b@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:49:37 -0500, Alan Browne-
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>And ... does it have a timer mode that lifts the mirror a couple seconds
>>ahead of the shutter release? (a quick look at dpreview is
>>inconclusive..)
>
> No, it does not have a mirror lock-up (anti-shock) mode.
>
> However, all other current Nikon D series (including the D2X) are
> equipped with a mirror lock-up (anti-shock) mode.
>
> On a similar note: The D70 does have a function that will lock-up the
> mirror for sensor cleaning.
>
> -Astro
When you think about it, how bad can the vibration be, as the mirror on the
D70 is smaller (lighter?) than a full-frame DSLR or a 35mm camera?
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All Things Mopar <usenetMAPS123@comcast.net> wrote:
> Mac Tabak commented courteously ...
>> You will have to learn Photoshop if you want
>> high quality shots, without it they will be
>> pale in comparison to others who know how to
>> use it.
People made high quality shots in the past, without involving
computers at all. (They also managed tons of bad shots,
of course.) Care to "enhance" any of those? :-)
> Or, Paint Shop Pro 9, at 1/5 the price. But then, it
> matters much more how good you are with a graphics program
> than it does which one you buy!
Or The Gimp at 1/infinity of the price[1]. I found
http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/
to help quite a bit, though not the end of all knowledge.
-Wolfgang
[1]
All Things Mopar <usenetMAPS123@comcast.net> wrote:
> Mac Tabak commented courteously ...
>> You will have to learn Photoshop if you want
>> high quality shots, without it they will be
>> pale in comparison to others who know how to
>> use it.
People made high quality shots in the past, without involving
computers at all. (They also managed tons of bad shots,
of course.) Care to "enhance" any of those? :-)
> Or, Paint Shop Pro 9, at 1/5 the price. But then, it
> matters much more how good you are with a graphics program
> than it does which one you buy!
Or The Gimp at 1/infinity of the price[1]. I found
http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/
to help quite a bit, though not the end of all knowledge.
-Wolfgang
[1]
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Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> "Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
> news
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> >> One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is to
fill
> >> the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
> >>
> >> One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital Snappers)
went a
> >> step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the
dust cap,
> >> and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments of
bacon
> >> and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't
work) all
> >> over the sensor.
> >
> > I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a real
bitch
> > prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the D70<
>
> =======================
>
> That's a fairly typical newbie error - with P&S cameras you have to
take out
> the batteries and trickle the fat in through the battery compartment.
>
> Smaller electronics, like mobile phone's, on the other hand, work
best if
> completely immersed in a deep fryer, or similar(I always find that
those
> amusing musical ring tones sound better afterwards)
Just remember to take the batteries out too.
> Don't be too hard on yourself , you'll learn - we all made the same
mistakes
> when starting out.
I never did!
Susan
Pinky & Perky sing the Horst Wessel wrote:
> "Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
> news
bCdnewqHO4tam_cRVn-rA@comcast.com...> >> One user tip that I picked up in www.moderndigitalkamera.com is to
fill
> >> the body of the camera with petroleum jelly (Vaseline)
> >>
> >> One member of my local camera club (St Ignatius Hospital Snappers)
went a
> >> step further and used hot fat from a frying pan - removing the
dust cap,
> >> and pouring the fat (he used old lard that contained fragments of
bacon
> >> and egg yolks - but I don't see why clean cooking oil wouldn't
work) all
> >> over the sensor.
> >
> > I tried both these methods with my p&s camera, but it was a real
bitch
> > prying the lens off to pour the fat in. this is why I got the D70<
>
> =======================
>
> That's a fairly typical newbie error - with P&S cameras you have to
take out
> the batteries and trickle the fat in through the battery compartment.
>
> Smaller electronics, like mobile phone's, on the other hand, work
best if
> completely immersed in a deep fryer, or similar(I always find that
those
> amusing musical ring tones sound better afterwards)
Just remember to take the batteries out too.
> Don't be too hard on yourself , you'll learn - we all made the same
mistakes
> when starting out.
I never did!
Susan
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Sheldon wrote regarding mirror shake:
>
> When you think about it, how bad can the vibration be, as the mirror on the
> D70 is smaller (lighter?) than a full-frame DSLR or a 35mm camera?
I used a flimsy tripod with a big heavy lense hanging over precariously
a couple inches from the subject to do some macros (playing around) and
I could actually see the camera wobble after taking a picture. The pics
weren't too bad because it was more a post-snap cumulative wobble & a
fast shutter speed.
Before anyone laughs too hard at me it's an old 1950's vintage
'reporter' model with a cool ball mount & telescoping tubular metal legs
(though probably not sturdier than a cheapo plastic one). The makeshift
lens contraption was almost 12-inches long & heavy.
Sheldon wrote regarding mirror shake:
>
> When you think about it, how bad can the vibration be, as the mirror on the
> D70 is smaller (lighter?) than a full-frame DSLR or a 35mm camera?
I used a flimsy tripod with a big heavy lense hanging over precariously
a couple inches from the subject to do some macros (playing around) and
I could actually see the camera wobble after taking a picture. The pics
weren't too bad because it was more a post-snap cumulative wobble & a
fast shutter speed.
Before anyone laughs too hard at me it's an old 1950's vintage
'reporter' model with a cool ball mount & telescoping tubular metal legs
(though probably not sturdier than a cheapo plastic one). The makeshift
lens contraption was almost 12-inches long & heavy.
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"Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
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> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
> my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step
> by step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal
> things with my p&s camera.
>
> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
> got.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sheldon
> sheldon@sopris.net
--------------------------------------
There are several good tutorials but here is one I found very useful.
http://members.aol.com/bhaber/D70/index.html
Regards, Don F
"Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
news:rpWdncl9tMH9B2_cRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results from
> my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step
> by step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal
> things with my p&s camera.
>
> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
> got.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sheldon
> sheldon@sopris.net
--------------------------------------
There are several good tutorials but here is one I found very useful.
http://members.aol.com/bhaber/D70/index.html
Regards, Don F
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Sheldon wrote:
> When you think about it, how bad can the vibration be, as the mirror on the
> D70 is smaller (lighter?) than a full-frame DSLR or a 35mm camera?
The mirror slaps against stops at the far end of travel. The resulting
vibration depends on the body contruction and how it responds to that slap and
damps the vibration over time. Every camera has a different damping
characteristic. Further, if you mount the camera on a tripod, then it too
becomes part of the system, may be stimumated into oscilation and add to the
blur. (Another reason to avoid extending the centre column of the tripod).
In the end the D70 mirror might have less mirror slap than, eg an F100, but it
will still have slap.
Cheers,
Alan
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Sheldon wrote:
> When you think about it, how bad can the vibration be, as the mirror on the
> D70 is smaller (lighter?) than a full-frame DSLR or a 35mm camera?
The mirror slaps against stops at the far end of travel. The resulting
vibration depends on the body contruction and how it responds to that slap and
damps the vibration over time. Every camera has a different damping
characteristic. Further, if you mount the camera on a tripod, then it too
becomes part of the system, may be stimumated into oscilation and add to the
blur. (Another reason to avoid extending the centre column of the tripod).
In the end the D70 mirror might have less mirror slap than, eg an F100, but it
will still have slap.
Cheers,
Alan
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paul wrote:
> Sheldon wrote regarding mirror shake:
>
>>
>> When you think about it, how bad can the vibration be, as the mirror
>> on the D70 is smaller (lighter?) than a full-frame DSLR or a 35mm camera?
>
>
>
> I used a flimsy tripod with a big heavy lense hanging over precariously
> a couple inches from the subject to do some macros (playing around) and
> I could actually see the camera wobble after taking a picture. The pics
> weren't too bad because it was more a post-snap cumulative wobble & a
> fast shutter speed.
The rule of thumb to choose to use mirror lockup is around 1/8 down to 1/125
being the range of mirror slap induced vibration that will blur a photo. (I've
heard some people say 1 sec down to 1/125th as well).
If a tripod is a "wobbler" (was the center post extended?) and the shutter
speed is slow, then a manual mirror lockup (aka "true mirror lockup") is best.
My Max 9 has a 2 second delay timer mirror lockup which I believe is a little
too generous ... 1 sec would have been enough.
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paul wrote:
> Sheldon wrote regarding mirror shake:
>
>>
>> When you think about it, how bad can the vibration be, as the mirror
>> on the D70 is smaller (lighter?) than a full-frame DSLR or a 35mm camera?
>
>
>
> I used a flimsy tripod with a big heavy lense hanging over precariously
> a couple inches from the subject to do some macros (playing around) and
> I could actually see the camera wobble after taking a picture. The pics
> weren't too bad because it was more a post-snap cumulative wobble & a
> fast shutter speed.
The rule of thumb to choose to use mirror lockup is around 1/8 down to 1/125
being the range of mirror slap induced vibration that will blur a photo. (I've
heard some people say 1 sec down to 1/125th as well).
If a tripod is a "wobbler" (was the center post extended?) and the shutter
speed is slow, then a manual mirror lockup (aka "true mirror lockup") is best.
My Max 9 has a 2 second delay timer mirror lockup which I believe is a little
too generous ... 1 sec would have been enough.
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go to www.lynda.com and check out the video based tutorials on Digital
Photography with photoshop, part 1 and 2. I promise you its the
quickest way to learn.
have fun! i just got my D70 and it rocks!!
sri
go to www.lynda.com and check out the video based tutorials on Digital
Photography with photoshop, part 1 and 2. I promise you its the
quickest way to learn.
have fun! i just got my D70 and it rocks!!
sri
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All Things Mopar <usenetMAPS123@comcast.net> wrote:
> Mac Tabak commented courteously ...
>> You will have to learn Photoshop if you want
>> high quality shots, without it they will be
>> pale in comparison to others who know how to
>> use it.
People made high quality shots in the past, without involving
computers at all. (They also managed tons of bad shots,
of course.) Care to "enhance" any of those? :-)
> Or, Paint Shop Pro 9, at 1/5 the price. But then, it
> matters much more how good you are with a graphics program
> than it does which one you buy!
Or The Gimp at 1/infinity of the price[1]. I found
http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/
to help quite a bit, though not the end of all knowledge.
-Wolfgang
[1] http://www.gimp.org
PS: Superseeded because I forgot the URL in [1].
All Things Mopar <usenetMAPS123@comcast.net> wrote:
> Mac Tabak commented courteously ...
>> You will have to learn Photoshop if you want
>> high quality shots, without it they will be
>> pale in comparison to others who know how to
>> use it.
People made high quality shots in the past, without involving
computers at all. (They also managed tons of bad shots,
of course.) Care to "enhance" any of those? :-)
> Or, Paint Shop Pro 9, at 1/5 the price. But then, it
> matters much more how good you are with a graphics program
> than it does which one you buy!
Or The Gimp at 1/infinity of the price[1]. I found
http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/
to help quite a bit, though not the end of all knowledge.
-Wolfgang
[1] http://www.gimp.org
PS: Superseeded because I forgot the URL in [1].
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Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>
> Or The Gimp at 1/infinity of the price[1]. I found
> http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/
> to help quite a bit, though not the end of all knowledge.
>
> -Wolfgang
>
> [1] http://www.gimp.org
>
> PS: Superseeded because I forgot the URL in [1].
Gimp is a clumsy program to use, unfortunately. I've run it under Windows and
Linux and you simpy cannot work as smoothly as Photoshop. As to price, LE was
bundled with my first scanner and elements 2.0 with my second scanner.
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Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>
> Or The Gimp at 1/infinity of the price[1]. I found
> http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/
> to help quite a bit, though not the end of all knowledge.
>
> -Wolfgang
>
> [1] http://www.gimp.org
>
> PS: Superseeded because I forgot the URL in [1].
Gimp is a clumsy program to use, unfortunately. I've run it under Windows and
Linux and you simpy cannot work as smoothly as Photoshop. As to price, LE was
bundled with my first scanner and elements 2.0 with my second scanner.
--
-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
-- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm
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I've got LE, which is probably more than I need, and I have a copy of
PhotoShop5 I never loaded. What is the easiest way to convert NEF files to
genuine RAW or TIFF files that PhotoShop can see?
"Alan Browne" <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote in message
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> Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Or The Gimp at 1/infinity of the price[1]. I found
>> http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/
>> to help quite a bit, though not the end of all knowledge.
>>
>> -Wolfgang
>>
>> [1] http://www.gimp.org
>>
>> PS: Superseeded because I forgot the URL in [1].
>
> Gimp is a clumsy program to use, unfortunately. I've run it under Windows
> and Linux and you simpy cannot work as smoothly as Photoshop. As to
> price, LE was bundled with my first scanner and elements 2.0 with my
> second scanner.
>
>
> --
> -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
> -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm
> -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin
> -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.
I've got LE, which is probably more than I need, and I have a copy of
PhotoShop5 I never loaded. What is the easiest way to convert NEF files to
genuine RAW or TIFF files that PhotoShop can see?
"Alan Browne" <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote in message
news:ct38nv$r7u$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
> Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Or The Gimp at 1/infinity of the price[1]. I found
>> http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/
>> to help quite a bit, though not the end of all knowledge.
>>
>> -Wolfgang
>>
>> [1] http://www.gimp.org
>>
>> PS: Superseeded because I forgot the URL in [1].
>
> Gimp is a clumsy program to use, unfortunately. I've run it under Windows
> and Linux and you simpy cannot work as smoothly as Photoshop. As to
> price, LE was bundled with my first scanner and elements 2.0 with my
> second scanner.
>
>
> --
> -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
> -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm
> -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin
> -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.
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"Alan Browne" <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote in message
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> Sheldon wrote:
>
>
>> When you think about it, how bad can the vibration be, as the mirror on
>> the D70 is smaller (lighter?) than a full-frame DSLR or a 35mm camera?
>
> The mirror slaps against stops at the far end of travel. The resulting
> vibration depends on the body contruction and how it responds to that slap
> and damps the vibration over time. Every camera has a different damping
> characteristic. Further, if you mount the camera on a tripod, then it too
> becomes part of the system, may be stimumated into oscilation and add to
> the blur. (Another reason to avoid extending the centre column of the
> tripod).
>
> In the end the D70 mirror might have less mirror slap than, eg an F100,
> but it will still have slap.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
Too bad. The smaller the camera the bigger the tripod you need. :-)
"Alan Browne" <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote in message
news:ct33fn$183$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
> Sheldon wrote:
>
>
>> When you think about it, how bad can the vibration be, as the mirror on
>> the D70 is smaller (lighter?) than a full-frame DSLR or a 35mm camera?
>
> The mirror slaps against stops at the far end of travel. The resulting
> vibration depends on the body contruction and how it responds to that slap
> and damps the vibration over time. Every camera has a different damping
> characteristic. Further, if you mount the camera on a tripod, then it too
> becomes part of the system, may be stimumated into oscilation and add to
> the blur. (Another reason to avoid extending the centre column of the
> tripod).
>
> In the end the D70 mirror might have less mirror slap than, eg an F100,
> but it will still have slap.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
Too bad. The smaller the camera the bigger the tripod you need. :-)
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Thanks.
Sheldon
"Don F" <donf11@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote in message
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> "Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
> news:rpWdncl9tMH9B2_cRVn-pA@comcast.com...
>> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results
>> from my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
>> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step
>> by step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal
>> things with my p&s camera.
>>
>> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
>> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
>> got.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Sheldon
>> sheldon@sopris.net
> --------------------------------------
>
> There are several good tutorials but here is one I found very useful.
>
> http://members.aol.com/bhaber/D70/index.html
>
> Regards, Don F
>
>
Thanks.
Sheldon
"Don F" <donf11@NOSPAMhome.com> wrote in message
news:h97Jd.95264$Jk5.77182@lakeread01...
> "Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
> news:rpWdncl9tMH9B2_cRVn-pA@comcast.com...
>> Is there a good source that will teach me how to get the best results
>> from my D70? I keep hearing about "developing" the image in Photoshop
>> (unsharpening masks, etc.), and I'd love to know if there is a good step
>> by step primer out there. I have PhotoShop, but only use it for minimal
>> things with my p&s camera.
>>
>> I don't need a primer on taking great photos. I need help making sure my
>> final image is as crisp and sharp as I can get it with the equipment I've
>> got.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Sheldon
>> sheldon@sopris.net
> --------------------------------------
>
> There are several good tutorials but here is one I found very useful.
>
> http://members.aol.com/bhaber/D70/index.html
>
> Regards, Don F
>
>
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Thanks
Sheldon
"redcat" <srileo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106601488.166493.121880@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> go to www.lynda.com and check out the video based tutorials on Digital
> Photography with photoshop, part 1 and 2. I promise you its the
> quickest way to learn.
>
> have fun! i just got my D70 and it rocks!!
> sri
>
Thanks
Sheldon
"redcat" <srileo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106601488.166493.121880@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> go to www.lynda.com and check out the video based tutorials on Digital
> Photography with photoshop, part 1 and 2. I promise you its the
> quickest way to learn.
>
> have fun! i just got my D70 and it rocks!!
> sri
>
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote:
>
> In article <dYSdnQ3zbtFCrW7cRVn-3w@comcast.com>,
> Sheldon <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
> >"DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
> >news:csuubd$ifr$1@fuego.d-and-d.com...
<SNIP>
> I have not yet used the self timer, so I wonder -- does the
> mirror move when you start the self timer, allowing the induced
> vibration to settle down before the actual shutter actuation?
>
No the mirror does not come up on the D70 until just before the shutter
opens as normal. There's no attempt to get the mirror out of the way
when the shutter button is pressed. If you have a PDA running PalmOS
with an infrared port you can get a program that will act as the remote
release. There was a thread about it somewhere recently.
Ronnie
"DoN. Nichols" wrote:
>
> In article <dYSdnQ3zbtFCrW7cRVn-3w@comcast.com>,
> Sheldon <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
> >"DoN. Nichols" <dnichols@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
> >news:csuubd$ifr$1@fuego.d-and-d.com...
<SNIP>
> I have not yet used the self timer, so I wonder -- does the
> mirror move when you start the self timer, allowing the induced
> vibration to settle down before the actual shutter actuation?
>
No the mirror does not come up on the D70 until just before the shutter
opens as normal. There's no attempt to get the mirror out of the way
when the shutter button is pressed. If you have a PDA running PalmOS
with an infrared port you can get a program that will act as the remote
release. There was a thread about it somewhere recently.
Ronnie
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Sheldon wrote:
> Too bad. The smaller the camera the bigger the tripod you need. :-)
Tripods need two characteristics which sometime oppose each other:
-rigidity
-damping
The 'cheap' way to achieve the first is to make tripods large and heavy.
The expensive way to achieve the second is, in part, with carbon-fibre legs.
Cheers,
Alan
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Sheldon wrote:
> Too bad. The smaller the camera the bigger the tripod you need. :-)
Tripods need two characteristics which sometime oppose each other:
-rigidity
-damping
The 'cheap' way to achieve the first is to make tripods large and heavy.
The expensive way to achieve the second is, in part, with carbon-fibre legs.
Cheers,
Alan
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On di, 25 jan 2005 02:13:10 GMT, Sheldon wrote in message
news:WuOdnXB-TIIDKWjcRVn-2A@comcast.com:
>> In the end the D70 mirror might have less mirror slap than, eg an
>> F100, but it will still have slap.
>
> Too bad. The smaller the camera the bigger the tripod you need.
> :-)
>
Is the mirror in a D70 as big/heavy as the one in a F100? after all the
DX sensor is smaller than 35mm film.
--
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homepage: http://nmig.musiceert.nl
Mail : remco at isgitarist dot nl
On di, 25 jan 2005 02:13:10 GMT, Sheldon wrote in message
news:WuOdnXB-TIIDKWjcRVn-2A@comcast.com:
>> In the end the D70 mirror might have less mirror slap than, eg an
>> F100, but it will still have slap.
>
> Too bad. The smaller the camera the bigger the tripod you need.
> :-)
>
Is the mirror in a D70 as big/heavy as the one in a F100? after all the
DX sensor is smaller than 35mm film.
--
groeten, Remco
homepage: http://nmig.musiceert.nl
Mail : remco at isgitarist dot nl
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Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>> Or The Gimp at 1/infinity of the price[1]. I found
> Gimp is a clumsy program to use, unfortunately.
I guess that you _ought_ to get something extra out of Photoshop,
given that you do pay for it --- even if you 'just' have to buy a
scanner. If it saves you hassle, Photoshop may well be worth it's
full price and more to you.
Since "I don't do Windows", I use The Gimp. It certainly is not
perfect, but I can write (and have written) plugins to support
and automate my personal workflow.
-Wolfgang
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>> Or The Gimp at 1/infinity of the price[1]. I found
> Gimp is a clumsy program to use, unfortunately.
I guess that you _ought_ to get something extra out of Photoshop,
given that you do pay for it --- even if you 'just' have to buy a
scanner. If it saves you hassle, Photoshop may well be worth it's
full price and more to you.
Since "I don't do Windows", I use The Gimp. It certainly is not
perfect, but I can write (and have written) plugins to support
and automate my personal workflow.
-Wolfgang
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Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>
> I guess that you _ought_ to get something extra out of Photoshop,
> given that you do pay for it --- even if you 'just' have to buy a
> scanner. If it saves you hassle, Photoshop may well be worth it's
> full price and more to you.
It may go further, I may need to get the full CS version at some point in order
to have the RAW converter for my (as yet unpurchased) digital camera.
Apparently the OEM converter is not as good as the Photoshop converter.
>
> Since "I don't do Windows", I use The Gimp. It certainly is not
> perfect, but I can write (and have written) plugins to support
> and automate my personal workflow.
Not many people are going to write their own plugins for Gimp/PS. I don't
believe that photography really demands that photographers should have to do so,
either.
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-- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.
Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>
> I guess that you _ought_ to get something extra out of Photoshop,
> given that you do pay for it --- even if you 'just' have to buy a
> scanner. If it saves you hassle, Photoshop may well be worth it's
> full price and more to you.
It may go further, I may need to get the full CS version at some point in order
to have the RAW converter for my (as yet unpurchased) digital camera.
Apparently the OEM converter is not as good as the Photoshop converter.
>
> Since "I don't do Windows", I use The Gimp. It certainly is not
> perfect, but I can write (and have written) plugins to support
> and automate my personal workflow.
Not many people are going to write their own plugins for Gimp/PS. I don't
believe that photography really demands that photographers should have to do so,
either.
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-- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.
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Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>> I guess that you _ought_ to get something extra out of Photoshop,
>> given that you do pay for it --- even if you 'just' have to buy a
>> scanner. If it saves you hassle, Photoshop may well be worth it's
>> full price and more to you.
> It may go further, I may need to get the full CS version at some point in order
> to have the RAW converter for my (as yet unpurchased) digital camera.
> Apparently the OEM converter is not as good as the Photoshop converter.
I have heard good things said about dcraw.
>> Since "I don't do Windows", I use The Gimp. It certainly is not
>> perfect, but I can write (and have written) plugins to support
>> and automate my personal workflow.
> Not many people are going to write their own plugins for Gimp/PS.
Enough people do ... after all, there are so many plugins out
there :-)
> I don't believe that photography really demands that photographers should
> have to do so, either.
True! The whole analog photograpy gets by without photoshop or
related programs, and I don't hear them being unable to produce
good photos.
Being a programmer by trade, I prefer to do it my way -- and am
happy that I can do that, instead of being limited to "the typical
photorapher" (which is probably similar to you being restricted
to point&shoot automatics).
Photoshop has a 'recording' facility, I hear tell, usable for
batch mode? Similar thing in spirit, though being much more
restrictive and having a completely different interface.
-Wolfgang
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>> I guess that you _ought_ to get something extra out of Photoshop,
>> given that you do pay for it --- even if you 'just' have to buy a
>> scanner. If it saves you hassle, Photoshop may well be worth it's
>> full price and more to you.
> It may go further, I may need to get the full CS version at some point in order
> to have the RAW converter for my (as yet unpurchased) digital camera.
> Apparently the OEM converter is not as good as the Photoshop converter.
I have heard good things said about dcraw.
>> Since "I don't do Windows", I use The Gimp. It certainly is not
>> perfect, but I can write (and have written) plugins to support
>> and automate my personal workflow.
> Not many people are going to write their own plugins for Gimp/PS.
Enough people do ... after all, there are so many plugins out
there :-)
> I don't believe that photography really demands that photographers should
> have to do so, either.
True! The whole analog photograpy gets by without photoshop or
related programs, and I don't hear them being unable to produce
good photos.
Being a programmer by trade, I prefer to do it my way -- and am
happy that I can do that, instead of being limited to "the typical
photorapher" (which is probably similar to you being restricted
to point&shoot automatics).
Photoshop has a 'recording' facility, I hear tell, usable for
batch mode? Similar thing in spirit, though being much more
restrictive and having a completely different interface.
-Wolfgang
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Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>
>
>>>I guess that you _ought_ to get something extra out of Photoshop,
>>>given that you do pay for it --- even if you 'just' have to buy a
>>>scanner. If it saves you hassle, Photoshop may well be worth it's
>>>full price and more to you.
>
>
>>It may go further, I may need to get the full CS version at some point in order
>>to have the RAW converter for my (as yet unpurchased) digital camera.
>>Apparently the OEM converter is not as good as the Photoshop converter.
>
>
> I have heard good things said about dcraw.
>
>
>>>Since "I don't do Windows", I use The Gimp. It certainly is not
>>>perfect, but I can write (and have written) plugins to support
>>>and automate my personal workflow.
>
>
>>Not many people are going to write their own plugins for Gimp/PS.
>
>
> Enough people do ... after all, there are so many plugins out
> there :-)
Could be, but I doubt the majority of photographers would want to learn how. I
wrote s/w (assembler, Fortran, Ada, Pascal, ...) over a period of about 12 years
or so... but the notion of writing s/w for a camera interface doesn't interest
me at all.
>
>
>>I don't believe that photography really demands that photographers should
>>have to do so, either.
>
>
> True! The whole analog photograpy gets by without photoshop or
> related programs, and I don't hear them being unable to produce
> good photos.
There is a large, but disappearing, breed of amateur and professional
photographers who are highly adept at darkroom printing techniques. Photoshop
can do more, but there is a certain 'artlessness' about it.
>
> Being a programmer by trade, I prefer to do it my way -- and am
> happy that I can do that, instead of being limited to "the typical
> photorapher" (which is probably similar to you being restricted
> to point&shoot automatics).
See above. But it still doesn't interest me. OTOH I wrote my GPS interfaces
and utes to 'do it my way'.
> Photoshop has a 'recording' facility, I hear tell, usable for
> batch mode? Similar thing in spirit, though being much more
> restrictive and having a completely different interface.
For some manipulations that would be fine. For something like USM, each image
at each size has to be tailor USM'd. (Unless a very similar subject like
cookie-cutter portraits).
Cheers,
Alan
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-- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.
Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>
>
>>>I guess that you _ought_ to get something extra out of Photoshop,
>>>given that you do pay for it --- even if you 'just' have to buy a
>>>scanner. If it saves you hassle, Photoshop may well be worth it's
>>>full price and more to you.
>
>
>>It may go further, I may need to get the full CS version at some point in order
>>to have the RAW converter for my (as yet unpurchased) digital camera.
>>Apparently the OEM converter is not as good as the Photoshop converter.
>
>
> I have heard good things said about dcraw.
>
>
>>>Since "I don't do Windows", I use The Gimp. It certainly is not
>>>perfect, but I can write (and have written) plugins to support
>>>and automate my personal workflow.
>
>
>>Not many people are going to write their own plugins for Gimp/PS.
>
>
> Enough people do ... after all, there are so many plugins out
> there :-)
Could be, but I doubt the majority of photographers would want to learn how. I
wrote s/w (assembler, Fortran, Ada, Pascal, ...) over a period of about 12 years
or so... but the notion of writing s/w for a camera interface doesn't interest
me at all.
>
>
>>I don't believe that photography really demands that photographers should
>>have to do so, either.
>
>
> True! The whole analog photograpy gets by without photoshop or
> related programs, and I don't hear them being unable to produce
> good photos.
There is a large, but disappearing, breed of amateur and professional
photographers who are highly adept at darkroom printing techniques. Photoshop
can do more, but there is a certain 'artlessness' about it.
>
> Being a programmer by trade, I prefer to do it my way -- and am
> happy that I can do that, instead of being limited to "the typical
> photorapher" (which is probably similar to you being restricted
> to point&shoot automatics).
See above. But it still doesn't interest me. OTOH I wrote my GPS interfaces
and utes to 'do it my way'.
> Photoshop has a 'recording' facility, I hear tell, usable for
> batch mode? Similar thing in spirit, though being much more
> restrictive and having a completely different interface.
For some manipulations that would be fine. For something like USM, each image
at each size has to be tailor USM'd. (Unless a very similar subject like
cookie-cutter portraits).
Cheers,
Alan
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-- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.
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Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>> Photoshop has a 'recording' facility, I hear tell, usable for
>> batch mode? Similar thing in spirit, though being much more
>> restrictive and having a completely different interface.
> For some manipulations that would be fine. For something like USM, each image
> at each size has to be tailor USM'd. (Unless a very similar subject like
> cookie-cutter portraits).
That's exactly what I meant with "restrictive".
-Wolfgang
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
>> Photoshop has a 'recording' facility, I hear tell, usable for
>> batch mode? Similar thing in spirit, though being much more
>> restrictive and having a completely different interface.
> For some manipulations that would be fine. For something like USM, each image
> at each size has to be tailor USM'd. (Unless a very similar subject like
> cookie-cutter portraits).
That's exactly what I meant with "restrictive".
-Wolfgang
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