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Can this build run BF3 at 60fps+ at ultra high gfx?

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November 2, 2012 1:59:14 PM

Hello, highly respected community of Tom's Hardware!

I was looking to buy a customised gaming PC (on www.pcspecialist.co.uk) because I'm too much of a noob to build one myself from existing components. Luckily, I love gaming so much, I'm willing to spend a lot of $$ for this build to be perfect, but I'm also not a fan of throwing money away for the lolz.

So the end goal is to be able to play Battlefield 3 at fully maxed out graphics, with 1920x1200 resolution, at a comfortable 60fps+. Another thing I'd want is for the GFX card to be NVidia Geforce, not ATI, and preferrably the GTX690, unless you have a valid point to choose a different one, I am all ears, and open to suggestions.

I'm a complete noob when it comes to cases, monitors, processors (Intel vs AMD), and especially motherboards, (I would in fact love you forever if you might share some wisdom on the topic) so I went on this website and picked what seemed best quality without throwing money away on (what I thought) was useless junk.

I can imagine most of you facepalming at overpriced and useless components in this list, and that's exactly what I want you to do, because this current build is costing a whopping €4,787 ($6,150), which to be honest is way too much, I was hoping a maximum of €2500 ($3,200) could set me up with an awesome, long lasting build.

So here is a list of the components for the $6,150 build, I'm looking to lower it to a maximum of $3000 please help me figure out ways to cut the price but still achieving the above mentioned end goal.

Case
InWIN BLACK DRAGON RIDER GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Six Core Processor Extreme i7-3960X (3.3GHz) 15MB Cache

Motherboard
ASUS® SABERTOOTH X79: SOCKET 2011, R.O.G

Memory (RAM)
32GB KINGSTON HYPERX GENESIS QUAD-DDR3 1600MHz X.M.P(8 x 4GB KIT)

Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 690 DUAL GPU - 3 x DVI-I, 1 x mDP

2nd Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 690 DUAL GPU - 3 x DVI-I, 1 x mDP

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
500GB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 16MB CACHE

1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM

Memory Card Reader
INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT

Power Supply
CORSAIR 1050W PRO SERIES™ HX1050-80 PLUS® GOLD MODULAR (£159)

Processor Cooling
INTEL CERTIFIED LIQUID CPU COOLER FOR SOCKET LG2011 (£78)

Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Network Facilities
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs

USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD

Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence (£139)

Office Software
FREE Microsoft® Office Starter 2010 (Limited functionality Word & Excel)

Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL

Monitor
ASUS PA248Q 24" PROART SERIES PROFESSIONAL MONITOR (£362)

DVI-D & HDMI Monitor Cables
1 x 2 METRE DVI-D CABLE (£5)


Thanks a lot!
November 2, 2012 3:33:29 PM

there is no need to all that just to run BF3 to the max

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£168.61 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£56.48 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TH ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£141.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£30.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£130.96 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£60.03 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£296.20 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£296.20 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case (£124.57 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£96.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7260S-0B DVD/CD Writer (£9.83 @ Dabs)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 120Hz 24.0" Monitor (£287.84 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) (£70.36 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1771.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

i put inside 2x670 since it will beat 1x690 and costs less. i added a 120Hz monitor and if you are willing to spend so much you can even add inside watercooling and a bigger SSD
November 2, 2012 3:46:56 PM

boulbox's build is the way to go.

builders scam you. do it yourself

and your build is stupidly overkill
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November 2, 2012 4:08:33 PM

Holy crap, guys, thanks alot for the save!
Really glad I decided to consult the real pros before I went ahead and purchased.

I decided I'm gonna build it myself it's just stupidly cheaper and more flexible with parts.
Someone else actually also recommended almost exactly the same build, and I looked it up, it's perfect for 120fps BF3 gameplay, so I'm super happy!

Thanks for this, I will eventually leave questions here from time to time about the individual parts, for instance now:

Can I assume the case you provided has enough space for all the parts?
Also, do you think you could expand on the liquid cooling part you added? Do you think I'll probably need it or_?
I'm planning to buy and build the parts in Summer 2013, so I can safely assume prices will have dropped at least a bit by then?

Anyway just a big thanks this is why I love Tom's Hardware it's basically real people, much love and appreciation!
November 2, 2012 4:18:35 PM

the storm stkyer is very big case, watercooling is more of a hobby so sticking with the CPU cooler i suggested will do fine. if you want to take your time and do water cooling, you should read a lot before doing it since mistakes can hit you hard.

by summer 2013 just come back, the parts will be outdated and you can build a whole lot better one by that time.

i do not have any liquid cooling parts in my build and the D14 is pretty awesome since its price dropped a good amount.
November 2, 2012 4:27:58 PM

Good job, Boulbox.

One thing to consider - using three 670's would avoid microstutter (an issue that happens with two cards in SLI/Crossfire). The motherboard Bouldbox suggested already supports three cards on pci-e 3.0, and the case easily has clearance for the third card.

enjoy!
November 2, 2012 4:53:57 PM

there is no micro-stuttering from what i see and that 3 cards would be overkill for any rig right now

2 is what the motherboard supports. 3way SLI wont work since SLI requires at least a 8x slot but the up4 only has 2 8x slots. the final one is wired for 4x
November 2, 2012 5:11:41 PM

I've never once heard of SLI requiring 8x slots.

There were plenty of 4 card SLI setups on PCI-e 2.0. While the 670's may need more bandwidth than older cards, they will still run on a 2.0 4x slot (though they will be performance capped by the lower bandwidth).

A 4x pci-e 3.0 slot is bandwidth-equivalent to an 8x 2.0 slot, which is plenty for a 670.

All 2-card SLI/xfire setups have microstuttering. It's virtually eliminated when using 3+ cards. Neither Nvidia nor AMD (or anyone else for that matter) has figured out this phenomenon yet.

While a 2x670 setup will have a high framerate, there will still be microstuttering. One of the more used quotes on this topic about framerates& microstuttering is "It's like watching a video of a limping man; He'll never walk smoothly no matter how fast you play the video back."

Not everyone is bothered by microstuttering. However. It seems like the OP wants to put this rig together and not have to worry about opening it back up too often. Adding a 3rd 670 not only plays it safe with microstuttering, it prolongs the time before he'll have to pop open the case again, and it is well within his budget.
November 2, 2012 5:15:29 PM

no. nvidia wont let SLI run on 4x slots. even the manufacturer who have made their boards to do a 8x 8x 4x pci-e 3.0 set up list their boards only capable of 2 way SLI

crossfire can run on 4x slots. nvidia cant. that is why some boards are only crossfire ready. they are all arranged in a 16x 4x

November 2, 2012 5:19:24 PM

2 690's are overkill ;)  i advice 2 670's SLI :)  get a core i5 3750k and a Cooler master hyper evo 212 for overclock you should be able to run most games maxed out on 100-+~ FPS :) 
November 2, 2012 5:49:43 PM

TheBigTroll said:
no. nvidia wont let SLI run on 4x slots. even the manufacturer who have made their boards to do a 8x 8x 4x pci-e 3.0 set up list their boards only capable of 2 way SLI

crossfire can run on 4x slots. nvidia cant. that is why some boards are only crossfire ready. they are all arranged in a 16x 4x


I understand what you're saying...moreover I think you understood what I was saying and you're arguing semantics over something that could be fixed with a motherboard swap.

Since pci-2.0 only had 16 lanes to work with, even if a motherboard had a 16x 2.0 slot, and 2 more 8x slots, if all slots were populated, 2 of them would only run at 4x. This *does* work with SLI. However, if the slot is designated 4x by the manufacturer, it will not. SLI'd cards do not *have* to run at 8x.

http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/part/asus-motherboard-p8z77w...
will support 3 way (and 4 way) SLI.

have fun!
November 2, 2012 5:55:52 PM

the WS will but the UP4 wont

the WS runs in 8x 8x 8x 8x when all 16x sized slots are popuated. there is a plx chip
November 2, 2012 6:16:36 PM

So I've been researching for a few hours now, I think I've come to a decision of my final gaming PC build, just wanting to check with the real pro's to see if you can spot any compatibility issues? That's the only thing I'm a bit iffy about right now.

I'm talking more about the CPU and Motherboard
Also help me figure out which of the 2 cases is better they're roughly the same price

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12P SE2 54.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($208.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($117.85 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($374.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($374.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($185.98 @ Newegg)
or: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case (£124.57 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 120Hz 24.0" Monitor ($398.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
November 2, 2012 7:01:45 PM

As said many times earlier... 2 690's for a 1080p monitor is like... $1300 overkill
November 2, 2012 7:23:30 PM

i8myhippo said:
As said many times earlier... 2 690's for a 1080p monitor is like... $1300 overkill


But I've already read that and changed my build to the one 2 posts above, tell me what you think about that?
November 2, 2012 11:04:51 PM

yanxtar said:
So I've been researching for a few hours now, I think I've come to a decision of my final gaming PC build, just wanting to check with the real pro's to see if you can spot any compatibility issues? That's the only thing I'm a bit iffy about right now.

I'm talking more about the CPU and Motherboard
Also help me figure out which of the 2 cases is better they're roughly the same price

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12P SE2 54.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($208.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($117.85 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($374.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($374.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($185.98 @ Newegg)
or: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case (£124.57 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 120Hz 24.0" Monitor ($398.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)


change to the uk site to list all the prices

id suggest switching back to a xfx xxx 750w. there isnt much point of paying 50 more bucks for 2% more efficiency
February 19, 2013 5:54:07 AM

just use 3930k same as 3960x exept lower clock and 12mb catche instead of 15 not worth $500 extra
2x gtx 680
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