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Trouble choosing between HD7770 or HD7750?

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September 6, 2012 2:11:01 PM

Hellows. :D 

This month (To be more precise this weekend i think) i intend to buy myself a new graphics card so i can stop relying on Intergrated *** graphics called Intel HD. I have no intentions on going over $350 so i guess i am on a low budget.

So far i had trouble choosing between them because they both had positive reviews from people and negative ones:

Sapphire HD7770 GHz Edition 1GB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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PowerColor Radeon HD7750 1GB - http://www.powercolor.com/Global/products_features.asp?... (Couldn't find it on Newegg, sorry)

Which one of them would you recommend for gaming? Or maybe you can recommend a better one that won't exceed $200.
Also can you suggest a good PSU for one of these cards? The one currently that i have is about 350W. I searched around in my local store and all i kept finding was Cooler Master here and Cooler Master there. I read that CM, for whatever reason, is a bad PSU, is that true? :/ 

Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 @ 3.10GHz
Intel DH61WW Motherboard
Kingston 4GB (Probably gonna add another 4GB as they are locked in my shelf for whatever reason..)
Intel HD 2000
a c 199 U Graphics card
September 6, 2012 2:43:06 PM

CM PSUs are overrated near-junk. HardwareSecrets has reviewed quite a few of them, and I think only one got an award, and another got a provisional recommendation. Most were found to have liar labels, or claimed to have protection circuits that were simply not present.
Where are you shopping? Can you buy online? A quality modern PSU has some level of 80+ certification; not so much for the efficiency, but that it was tested at 100% of its label and didn't choke (and in fact was efficient, so it wasn't ABOUT to choke either). A notable exception is the Antec VP450, which has gotten an excellent competent technical review but is disqualified from 80+ because it doesn't have Active PFC.
If you're willing to go the full $200, get this HD7850: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... which will be much stronger than the ones you listed. It will run on a quality 450W-500W PSU such as one from Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, XFX, or Enermax/LEPA.
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 6, 2012 2:47:38 PM

I have a crapper-master ( brilliant :lol:  ) please don't be so harsh ! :cry:  ( i know ; they're rubbish )
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 6, 2012 2:53:03 PM

I would go for a 6870 and a new psu, possible within $200.
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a b U Graphics card
September 6, 2012 2:54:28 PM

get a cheap cx430 for about 20$ and then get the 7770 and you'll be all set. The 7770 is actually a big step up from the 7750 so its worth it.
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September 6, 2012 3:14:32 PM

Lol "Crapper-master" that made my day but yes i can shop online and i intend to buy a video card and a new psu along with it in my local internet store ( http://www.dateks.lv/en/ ) because for whatever *** reason newegg doesn't ship internationally.
Could you maybe suggest a low profile graphics card or something that is a little smaller? I am doubting that HD7850 will fit within my case due to it being massive looking but it looks quite powerful.. Maybe it might though, i don't really know for sure.. :x
I am also checking other internet stores, like http://eu.bongous.com

Seems like antec and corsair are quite the best when it comes to PSU. I like.
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a c 199 U Graphics card
September 6, 2012 3:41:30 PM

Hmmm, if you need low profile, you might be limited to a HD7750; I think that might be the most powerful low-profile card currently available.
I have XFX "Double-D" versions of the HD7870 and HD7770; and single-slot HD7750. None are long cards, even though they have two fans. The fans are quiet.
I went out to your first site. Any of the Corsair units would be good.
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 6, 2012 4:00:45 PM

Euh, no, it's a 1g version, i would really like the 2G.
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September 6, 2012 4:15:33 PM

OP I feel your pain. That $200 dollar budget is pretty tight.

The HD 7850 linked above would be the most powerful/efficient GPU for you. Unfortunately that 350W PSU prevents you using it. Forget about the 7750, the minimum you should consider is the HD 7770. Along with that you'd have to get a new PSU, consider the
Antec VP-450 450.

If it's possible at all, consider waiting til you saved enough for the HD 7850 and the Antec VP-450 PSU.
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September 6, 2012 5:05:58 PM

I would have went a little bit more further but i don't wanna end up being unable to buy a PSU. So $200 for a card. The other $150 for a good PSU and if there is something left i might buy myself a new case and as time goes by change this whole computer. I can nevertheless buy the HD7850 but the size of it still worries me. That awkward moment when you spend 200 bucks for an awesome card and it does not fit inside your case.. Plus it's also dual slot but i do not know if that plays an important role for i only have one PCIe slot.. Or two.. I don't remember lol. ._.
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 6, 2012 5:08:00 PM

Nah, you only need the space of two slots ; it uses only 1 slot on the mobo. Because of the big cooling and case it uses more space than that though.

You can't send it back when it doesn't fit ? Here i can send things back within 14 days without reason.
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a b U Graphics card
September 6, 2012 5:36:56 PM

If you need a low profile card you should also look at the gtx 550ti esp the one from zotac. Its not long at all and should fit without any problems
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September 6, 2012 5:59:00 PM

Ah, i see. Well less worries now for me about slots. And yep i can return it if something goes wrong like if it doesn't fit.

Is gtx 550ti from zotac even good? Never heard of this one. o.o
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a b U Graphics card
September 6, 2012 6:12:35 PM

Definately measure twice and buy once. Open up your case and make sure it supports a full height GPU card and figure out how long the card can be. Alot of places will charge return shipping and a restocking fee of 20%.

The 7770 is a decent card for gaming, and will run medium-highish settings in most things at 1920x1080; more taxing games like skyrim, metro, etc may have to be medium-maybe-low.

You could buy your PSU now; and commit a full 200 to buying a 7850 when you get the extra money. The 7850 will be a good bit more powerful; however it's all a matter of how much you care, how long you can wait, and how long it takes to save up the extra :) 
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 6, 2012 6:19:35 PM

2778066,18,1172754 said:
Definately measure twice and buy once. Open up your case and make sure it supports a full height GPU card and figure out how long the card can be. Alot of places will charge return shipping and a restocking fee of 20%.

Not in Europe, don't know about the Vikings though ;) 
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a b U Graphics card
September 6, 2012 6:31:51 PM

RevPenguin said:
Ah, i see. Well less worries now for me about slots. And yep i can return it if something goes wrong like if it doesn't fit.

Is gtx 550ti from zotac even good? Never heard of this one. o.o


No, it is on par with HD7750 and even worse at new DirectX11 games. If a 7850 is too big for your case consider an HD7770 or at least a HD7750.

Here are 3 suggestions:

7770: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

7750: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

7750 low profile: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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a c 199 U Graphics card
September 6, 2012 11:16:20 PM

He's not buying from Newegg; he lists two links of sites he can use.
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September 26, 2012 10:19:57 PM

I am sorry for not replying for a while now, got a little stressed with choosing the right combo of a graphics card and a PSU.

After much deliberation i ordered HD 7850 OC as suggested before but now i need a good psu.. Can you recommend a good one? -_- Corsair to be precise. Just the one that goes good with HD7850. I intend to play games for a loong time. F*ck social life for a while. ._.
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a b U Graphics card
September 26, 2012 10:59:11 PM

A corsair TX 550 or better would be fine for a 7850. The CX600 would be ok too, however they are generally not as high quality (but still good) as the TX/HX PSUs.

edit: AMD recommends a 500W or better, and their number likely has a lot of padding to account for no-name psu's. I believe a standard 7850 draws less than 150W from the 12V rail, so a 550W has plenty of headroom :) 
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a c 199 U Graphics card
September 26, 2012 11:05:16 PM

A 380W Antec Earthwatts could handle it, although it would lack useful headroom. The 430W or 500W versions would therefor make more sense.
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a b U Graphics card
September 27, 2012 4:42:23 PM

Onus said:
A 380W Antec Earthwatts could handle it, although it would lack useful headroom. The 430W or 500W versions would therefor make more sense.


That would be a fine choice as well. I was curious about them, so I looked them up, thought I'd post the review I found: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

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