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November 3, 2012 3:14:27 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within a month or two.

Budget Range: $2000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (SC2 HOTS, Diablo3, CS) and Streaming (I have an Avermedia Gamer HD atm)

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: Maybe? Win8 or 7?

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com (Well in Romania its pcgarage.ro)

Location: Romania

Parts Preferences: Asus, Intel, Nvidia

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Nope

Your Monitor Resolution: Current monitor is 1680 x 1050

I was thinking at a setup so i need some advice on it:


Case: Corsair Carbide 400R

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 680 2GB DDR5 256-bit

MB: Asus P8Z77-V DELUXE

Memory: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB SATA-III 2.5 inch

SSD Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB SATA-III 2.5 inch

Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz box

Western Digital 1TB SATA-III 7200 rpm 64MB Caviar Blue

Seasonic G Series 650W

Kingston HyperX Blu 16GB DDR3 1600MHz CL10 Dual Channel Kit

More about : 2000 gaming

November 3, 2012 5:37:21 PM

A few observations.
It may be different where you are, but the GTX680 is not normally best value. The little it offers, over a good GTX670, doesn't justify a large additional cost. I know you said you prefer nVidia, but the HD7970 should at least be considered. Its relative performance, compared to GTX680, varies from game to game, but for information, at least, here are the benchmarks, <a http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/618?vs=555 /a>.
The Asus Deluxe has a lot of features. Do you need them all? If they are of value, to YOU, then fine. The plain P8Z77-V is generally regarded as best value, in a gaming rig.
Kingston are not really best, for either SSD, or RAM.
For SSD: prefer OCZ Vertex 4 (not any other model), or Samsung 830.
For RAM: prefer GSKill Ares, Crucial Ballistix Sport, or Corsair CML. 8GB is plenty for gaming. You only need 16GB, if you are using software that is very memory intensive, like some for photo/video editing, or CAD/design.
If you are intending to overclock processor, you will need aftermarket cooler. Suggest CoolerMaster Hyper 212Evo, as a good low cost one. The Noctua NH-D14 is higher performance. The RAMs I suggested are all low profile, to avoid a clash, with cooler.
There are a few areas, of cost reduction, which would, with respect, go towards a higher resolution monitor, which would also improve gaming experience.
November 3, 2012 7:44:16 PM

id get the extreme4 if you can find one. pretty good bang for the buck in terms of features/price
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November 3, 2012 7:54:27 PM

I would highly suggest going ahead and getting a 1920x1080 monitor. Will probably be the most noticeable game changer.

Going 1TB HDD + SSD in RAID 0 is also something I recommend.
November 3, 2012 8:11:00 PM

SSDs in raid 0 wont provide any noticeable performance boost. only when you edit videos and use the SSDs as a scratch disk. or when you are doing a benchmark. other than that, raid 0 ssds are just to show off
November 3, 2012 10:41:19 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/movj
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/movj/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/movj/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.22 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($208.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 2 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($212.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($457.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Evolution ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ CompUSA)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1497.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

i prefer to change the mobo with a gigabyte Z77X-UD3H

thanks boulbox..
November 3, 2012 11:18:10 PM

seriously, a 680? worst bang for the buck
November 3, 2012 11:39:10 PM

i would recommend a 7970 but read carefully the OP Parts Preferences !
November 3, 2012 11:48:45 PM

there's no reason to buy anything more than a 660ti if you're going to use that 1680x1050 monitor. Everything above the 660ti is overkill for that monitor.

Of course, if you go out and buy a 1080p monitor, the 670 would be your best option. It's as powerful as the 7970 and only slightly less powerful than the 680 but much cheaper. Gigabyte's Windforce OC edition is i think the best value; great for cooling, one of the less expensive 670s out there with a factory overclock. It will power games at high/ultra settings through next year and still play new games at medium/high settings for the year after that.
November 3, 2012 11:54:33 PM

thing i found with my gigabyte 670 was coil whine. known to happen much more often with cards based on reference components.
November 4, 2012 12:01:48 AM

TheBigTroll said:
thing i found with my gigabyte 670 was coil whine. known to happen much more often with cards based on reference components.


the windforce OC edition? i don't think it's based on reference components. Tom's Hardware didn't mention it in their review, and I've never experienced it. May have been bad luck.
November 4, 2012 12:16:52 AM

yep. same card as yours.

nah. it just happens that most cards based on reference designs have more coil whine than ones with custom pcb and components since reference components arent always the best.
November 4, 2012 10:02:13 AM

Hello guys, thank you for the nice feedback!

So after doing some reading I guess I need to change the monitor also, in that area I like Samsung but if you can recommend something better I will appreciate it.



Case: Corsair Carbide 400R ( Cant find Cougar Evolution here, what else do you recommend with a simple black look and nice air flow?)

Video Card: Asus Radeon HD7970 3GB DDR5 384-bit

Proc: Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz box

Cooling: Noctua NH-D14 (using an EVO 212 on my OC right now, Q6600 at 3.2 its pretty decent but I need stronger :D )

MB: Asus P8Z77-V DELUXE (It has Wireless integrated)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL10 or Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB SATA-III 2.5 inch ( Even the Corsair is hard to find here, the other 2 are not available on our market)

Storage: SSD OCZ Vertex 4 Series 128GB SATA-III 2.5 inch

Storage: Western Digital 1TB SATA-III 7200 rpm 64MB Caviar Blue ( should I make RAID? )

Source: Seasonic G Series 650W

Monitor: Samsung / Asus what model do you recommend? using Smasung SyncMaster 226 atm :) 

Thanks for the input!


November 4, 2012 10:41:04 AM

I still think that "deluxe" is excessive. The V Pro has Wi-fi, as do some Gigabytes, somewhat cheaper. I've not used a HD7970, so not sure which one is best. The Asus will, undoubtedly, be decent. When it comes to monitors, there are so many decent (and rubbish) ones, it's difficult to recommend one. It will inevitably be highly subjective. Asus, Dell, Samsung, Viewsonic, BenQ, all have good ones. Best way is decide what size you want, roughly how much you want to pay. Pick two or three "likely contenders", with at least 250 brightness and 6ms response time, or below, and do your research, with expert reviews. NO monitor is "perfect". It's a question of finding one, with minimum negatives.
November 4, 2012 2:19:33 PM

calinsp said:
Hello guys, thank you for the nice feedback!

So after doing some reading I guess I need to change the monitor also, in that area I like Samsung but if you can recommend something better I will appreciate it.



Case: Corsair Carbide 400R ( Cant find Cougar Evolution here, what else do you recommend with a simple black look and nice air flow?)

Video Card: Asus Radeon HD7970 3GB DDR5 384-bit

Proc: Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz box

Cooling: Noctua NH-D14 (using an EVO 212 on my OC right now, Q6600 at 3.2 its pretty decent but I need stronger :D )

MB: Asus P8Z77-V DELUXE (It has Wireless integrated)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL10 or Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB SATA-III 2.5 inch ( Even the Corsair is hard to find here, the other 2 are not available on our market)

Storage: SSD OCZ Vertex 4 Series 128GB SATA-III 2.5 inch

Storage: Western Digital 1TB SATA-III 7200 rpm 64MB Caviar Blue ( should I make RAID? )

Source: Seasonic G Series 650W

Monitor: Samsung / Asus what model do you recommend? using Smasung SyncMaster 226 atm :) 

Thanks for the input!


the v-deluxe is excessive and overpriced. id recommend a gigabyte ud5h or a up4 th if you can find those. have wifi.

id get a xfx xxx 750w if you want to crossfire sometime in the future

get a gigabyte 7970 or a xfx 7970. the heatsink on asus cards are overly big and unecessary
November 4, 2012 2:28:13 PM

OP said he didn't want SLi/crossfire, so size not important. Can't believe I just said that. lol.
November 4, 2012 2:29:03 PM

well then id drop down to a 550w. 650w i think is a bit over.

yeah.......
November 4, 2012 2:58:14 PM

instead of just buying a board with Wifi just get a wifi card, it will have more range ans speed overall.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.77 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($148.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($409.66 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF XM (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($106.89 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Samsung S23A700D 120Hz 23.0" Monitor ($309.15 @ CompUSA)
Total: $1560.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
November 4, 2012 3:06:11 PM

@boulbox, as was mentioned above no point in using an SSD...
November 4, 2012 3:08:15 PM

whats a build without a SSD?
November 4, 2012 3:22:12 PM

Thomas Creel said:
@boulbox, as was mentioned above no point in using an SSD...


yea thats why the OP put a dam SSD inside his previous post. read some more please
November 4, 2012 8:16:35 PM

TheBigTroll said:
whats a build without a SSD?

youre being pretty confusing here, previously you told me there was no point
November 4, 2012 8:32:19 PM

Thomas Creel said:
youre being pretty confusing here, previously you told me there was no point



it was said that raid 0 SSD is not that useful
November 4, 2012 8:41:05 PM

there is nobody saying that using a SSD as the OS drive is useless
November 4, 2012 9:05:47 PM

i said that raid 0 ssds are useless
November 4, 2012 9:35:44 PM

i beg to differ, 1TB of ssd is better than 1TB of hdd imo, he prob doesnt have cash for that so use ssd as os boot
November 4, 2012 9:39:41 PM

why would anyone pay a thousand dollars for 1tb of SSD storage?

no duh people would use a 128gb or 256gb drive as a boot and a 1tb for storage
November 4, 2012 9:47:13 PM

if i were rich enough that 1k didnt matter, y not? and on second part i agree derp
November 4, 2012 9:57:08 PM

nah. the only 1tb i know of is a ocz octane and it isnt that great....

the other one is a ocz revo enterprise which costs like 5000
November 4, 2012 10:26:03 PM

stupid reality, always letting me down
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November 26, 2012 11:40:56 AM

Wont't i have a problem with the video card regarding the gigabyte ud5h. ? The radiator will be pretty close... Talking about a hd7970
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