Need help with budget gaming computer

[Marmour]

Hello community, I am hoping to get my first DIY build this year for christmas.
I am on a budget of 600 at the absolute maximum and cheaper is better. So far, this is the parts im buying.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 cooler master haf 912

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769 western digital wd blue 500gb 7200rpm

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280 Asrock 970 extrem AM3+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130838 gtx 650 ti 1gb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182200 rosewill green series rg630 630w continuous

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231427 gskill ripjaws x 4gb(2gbx2)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996 amd fx zambezi 3.6ghz quad core

could the community please go over the compatability, stability issues, or alternatives
i would like to play the newest games on medium to mid-low plz
These items are pretty expensive if there are cheaper yet equal alternatives please tell me

 

[Deemo13]

Alternatives?

Swap the FX4100 for an Intel Pentium G8xx and a H61 or B75 motherboard to save money so you can put more into the GPU, which you would be able to upgrade to a 7850.

You can also drop down to a 7770, as the 650Ti is not a great card for the price.

 

[Marmour]

Alternatives?

Swap the FX4100 for an Intel Pentium G8xx and a H61 or B75 motherboard to save money so you can put more into the GPU, which you would be able to upgrade to a 7850.

You can also drop down to a 7770, as the 650Ti is not a great card for the price.

im only 14 so I'm going to get this now for starters and then upgrade the gpu later to a much better 200 dollar card
i also found this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1098027 which is awesome
and this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130827
which puts me at a total of 490

 

[larkspur]

If you want to do an AMD build, forget Zambezi and go for Vishera: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113287

I know it's a bit more but figure out how to squeeze it into your budget, piledriver is worth it: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328.html

 

[Marmour]

If you want to do an AMD build, forget Zambezi and go for Vishera: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113287

I know it's a bit more but figure out how to squeeze it into your budget, piledriver is worth it: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328.html

read my previous post and look at the combo i found it saves me over 40 dollars but uses zambezi

 

[Deemo13]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G850 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($171.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $483.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Here's how I would do it.

 

[Marmour]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G850 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($171.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $483.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Here's how I would do it.

wowo thats amazing but my problem is that is a very powerful gpu and that is an old cpu i think it will bottleneck the gpu, i am thinking about the combo i found with a 7770 whats your opinion

 

[larkspur]

read my previous post and look at the combo i found it saves me over 40 dollars but uses zambezi

Well, assuming you aren't buying immediately, bundles don't necessarily last until Christmas. Also the PSU in that bundle is kinda weak if you are planning to put in a more powerful GPU later on. My point is just to get Vishera if you can. But you're right, if the deal is good it isn't critical and if AMD stays on AM3+ for steamroller, you can likely upgrade then. Just wanted to make sure you were aware

Mmmmm, I like Deemo13's build with the 7850, and you could always drop in an i5 sometime down the road.

 

[Marmour]

Well, assuming you aren't buying immediately, bundles don't necessarily last until Christmas. Also the PSU in that bundle is kinda weak if you are planning to put in a more powerful GPU later on. My point is just to get Vishera if you can. But you're right, if the deal is good it isn't critical and if AMD stays on AM3+ for steamroller, you can likely upgrade then. Just wanted to make sure you were aware

Mmmmm, I like Deemo13's build with the 7850, and you could always drop in an i5 sometime down the road.

im just scared of bottlenecking that why im thinking zambezi with 7770

 

[Deemo13]

I don't understand why everyone is afraid of bottlenecking. Its only really an extreme situational thing. I can understand, but it rarely occurs in modern builds.

 

[larkspur]

Ah, well you shouldn't be too scared of bottlenecking. A 7850 with the Pentium will be a great gaming system. The Pentium is surprisingly powerful and it, the Zambezi or the Vishera won't bottleneck a 7850. Some CPU-intensive games will certainly run better on an i5, but it'll be great for gaming. Also, you'll be able to upgrade the CPU to an i3/i5/i7 Sandy or Ivy.

 

[Marmour]

so with that beast of a card ill get like a good 40 fps on modern games with that cpu?

 

[larkspur]

Yeah, you'll be rockin it. CPU bottlenecks are only really a problem when the system is totally unbalanced. The Pentium with the 7850 is tilted toward graphics, yes, but it isn't a Pentium 4 with a 7850 - now that would be a problem

 

[Marmour]

ill think about it thnx for all the help everybody

 

[Marmour]

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[Deemo13]

I prefer tilted towards graphics builds (except in my build...because I like my 460). I feel graphics are more important if you have a solid CPU. The Pentium is a great gaming processor. If you want to jump to the i3, that would be an even more solid choice.

The Pentium performs around the same as the Phenom II X4.

 

[Marmour]

I prefer tilted towards graphics builds (except in my build...because I like my 460). I feel graphics are more important if you have a solid CPU. The Pentium is a great gaming processor. If you want to jump to the i3, that would be an even more solid choice.

The Pentium performs around the same as the Phenom II X4.

i am going with your build and later on getting a i5 2500k when money allows, now i got a lot of lawns to mow lol thx everybody

 

[Deemo13]

Well, if you want to get a 2500K (or 3570K) you are going to want to get a Z77 motherboard, otherwise you will not be able to overclock it.

 

[Marmour]

Well, if you want to get a 2500K (or 3570K) you are going to want to get a Z77 motherboard, otherwise you will not be able to overclock it.

then maybe not a k series but I'm still looking at the combo with zambezi and a 7770 seems well balanced

 

[Deemo13]

Honestly, the Zambezi is not that strong of a gaming processor. The 7770 is good though.

Yet, if you are dead-set on the 6100, its not THAT bad of a processor. There is just better for the money.

 

[Marmour]

Honestly, the Zambezi is not that strong of a gaming processor. The 7770 is good though.

Yet, if you are dead-set on the 6100, its not THAT bad of a processor. There is just better for the money.

look at that amazing combo i got, though in my other post, it saves me over 40 dollars thats why im probably getting it, trust me id rather get vishera, if you can find a alternative around 500 that gives me vishera and 7770, that would be great

 

[Deemo13]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($171.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $520.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Its a bit over and has some rebates, but it even has a much much better GPU.

 

[Marmour]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($171.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $520.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Its a bit over and has some rebates, but it even has a much much better GPU.

have i ever told you i love you, just really worried about psi probably will get better one because dont need optical drive, i got like 5 and might take some of the motherboard a little bit too. suggestions appreciated

 

[Deemo13]

PSI?

 

[Marmour]

PSI?

sorry psu my mac is autocorrecting