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November 3, 2012 7:56:23 PM

Hello community, I am hoping to get my first DIY build this year for christmas.
I am on a budget of 600 at the absolute maximum and cheaper is better. So far, this is the parts im buying.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... cooler master haf 912

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... western digital wd blue 500gb 7200rpm

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Asrock 970 extrem AM3+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... gtx 650 ti 1gb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... rosewill green series rg630 630w continuous

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... gskill ripjaws x 4gb(2gbx2)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... amd fx zambezi 3.6ghz quad core

could the community please go over the compatability, stability issues, or alternatives
i would like to play the newest games on medium to mid-low plz
These items are pretty expensive if there are cheaper yet equal alternatives please tell me

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a b B Homebuilt system
November 4, 2012 1:03:40 AM

Alternatives?

Swap the FX4100 for an Intel Pentium G8xx and a H61 or B75 motherboard to save money so you can put more into the GPU, which you would be able to upgrade to a 7850.

You can also drop down to a 7770, as the 650Ti is not a great card for the price.
November 4, 2012 1:17:13 AM

Deemo13 said:
Alternatives?

Swap the FX4100 for an Intel Pentium G8xx and a H61 or B75 motherboard to save money so you can put more into the GPU, which you would be able to upgrade to a 7850.

You can also drop down to a 7770, as the 650Ti is not a great card for the price.

im only 14 so I'm going to get this now for starters and then upgrade the gpu later to a much better 200 dollar card
i also found this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... which is awesome
and this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
which puts me at a total of 490
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 4, 2012 1:27:43 AM
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G850 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($171.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $483.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Here's how I would do it.
November 4, 2012 1:31:21 AM

Deemo13 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G850 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($171.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $483.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Here's how I would do it.

wowo thats amazing but my problem is that is a very powerful gpu and that is an old cpu i think it will bottleneck the gpu, i am thinking about the combo i found with a 7770 whats your opinion
November 4, 2012 1:34:22 AM

Marmour said:
read my previous post and look at the combo i found it saves me over 40 dollars but uses zambezi

Well, assuming you aren't buying immediately, bundles don't necessarily last until Christmas. Also the PSU in that bundle is kinda weak if you are planning to put in a more powerful GPU later on. My point is just to get Vishera if you can. But you're right, if the deal is good it isn't critical and if AMD stays on AM3+ for steamroller, you can likely upgrade then. Just wanted to make sure you were aware :) 

Mmmmm, I like Deemo13's build with the 7850, and you could always drop in an i5 sometime down the road.
November 4, 2012 1:36:11 AM

larkspur said:
Well, assuming you aren't buying immediately, bundles don't necessarily last until Christmas. Also the PSU in that bundle is kinda weak if you are planning to put in a more powerful GPU later on. My point is just to get Vishera if you can. But you're right, if the deal is good it isn't critical and if AMD stays on AM3+ for steamroller, you can likely upgrade then. Just wanted to make sure you were aware :) 

Mmmmm, I like Deemo13's build with the 7850, and you could always drop in an i5 sometime down the road.

im just scared of bottlenecking that why im thinking zambezi with 7770
a b B Homebuilt system
November 4, 2012 1:43:53 AM

I don't understand why everyone is afraid of bottlenecking. Its only really an extreme situational thing. I can understand, but it rarely occurs in modern builds.
November 4, 2012 1:45:04 AM

Ah, well you shouldn't be too scared of bottlenecking. A 7850 with the Pentium will be a great gaming system. The Pentium is surprisingly powerful and it, the Zambezi or the Vishera won't bottleneck a 7850. Some CPU-intensive games will certainly run better on an i5, but it'll be great for gaming. Also, you'll be able to upgrade the CPU to an i3/i5/i7 Sandy or Ivy.
November 4, 2012 1:46:49 AM

so with that beast of a card ill get like a good 40 fps on modern games with that cpu?
November 4, 2012 1:55:25 AM

Yeah, you'll be rockin it. CPU bottlenecks are only really a problem when the system is totally unbalanced. The Pentium with the 7850 is tilted toward graphics, yes, but it isn't a Pentium 4 with a 7850 - now that would be a problem ;) 
November 4, 2012 1:57:39 AM

ill think about it thnx for all the help everybody
November 4, 2012 1:58:14 AM

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a b B Homebuilt system
November 4, 2012 2:31:41 AM

I prefer tilted towards graphics builds (except in my build...because I like my 460). I feel graphics are more important if you have a solid CPU. The Pentium is a great gaming processor. If you want to jump to the i3, that would be an even more solid choice.

The Pentium performs around the same as the Phenom II X4.
November 4, 2012 11:04:19 AM

Deemo13 said:
I prefer tilted towards graphics builds (except in my build...because I like my 460). I feel graphics are more important if you have a solid CPU. The Pentium is a great gaming processor. If you want to jump to the i3, that would be an even more solid choice.

The Pentium performs around the same as the Phenom II X4.

i am going with your build and later on getting a i5 2500k when money allows, now i got a lot of lawns to mow lol thx everybody
a b B Homebuilt system
November 4, 2012 6:48:34 PM

Well, if you want to get a 2500K (or 3570K) you are going to want to get a Z77 motherboard, otherwise you will not be able to overclock it.
November 4, 2012 11:57:33 PM

Deemo13 said:
Well, if you want to get a 2500K (or 3570K) you are going to want to get a Z77 motherboard, otherwise you will not be able to overclock it.

then maybe not a k series but I'm still looking at the combo with zambezi and a 7770 seems well balanced
a b B Homebuilt system
November 5, 2012 12:26:07 AM

Honestly, the Zambezi is not that strong of a gaming processor. The 7770 is good though.

Yet, if you are dead-set on the 6100, its not THAT bad of a processor. There is just better for the money.
November 5, 2012 6:39:13 PM

Deemo13 said:
Honestly, the Zambezi is not that strong of a gaming processor. The 7770 is good though.

Yet, if you are dead-set on the 6100, its not THAT bad of a processor. There is just better for the money.

look at that amazing combo i got, though in my other post, it saves me over 40 dollars thats why im probably getting it, trust me id rather get vishera, if you can find a alternative around 500 that gives me vishera and 7770, that would be great
a b B Homebuilt system
November 5, 2012 6:45:03 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($171.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $520.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Its a bit over and has some rebates, but it even has a much much better GPU.
November 5, 2012 6:50:15 PM

Deemo13 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($171.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $520.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Its a bit over and has some rebates, but it even has a much much better GPU.

have i ever told you i love you, just really worried about psi probably will get better one because dont need optical drive, i got like 5 and might take some of the motherboard a little bit too. suggestions appreciated
a b B Homebuilt system
November 5, 2012 7:58:25 PM

PSI?
November 5, 2012 8:25:40 PM

Deemo13 said:
PSI?

sorry psu my mac is autocorrecting
a b B Homebuilt system
November 5, 2012 8:59:39 PM

If you want more power, that's not a big deal. The 7850 doesnt use all that much. I also realized I forgot the RAM :/  , so that drags the price up a bit. I'll swap in the 7770.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($115.50 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $504.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

November 5, 2012 9:02:29 PM

Deemo13 said:
If you want more power, that's not a big deal. The 7850 doesnt use all that much. I also realized I forgot the RAM :/  , so that drags the price up a bit. I'll swap in the 7770.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($115.50 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $504.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

thz so much ill see if i can get vishera and a 7850. btw those two parts together will destroy all modern games right?
a b B Homebuilt system
November 5, 2012 9:05:07 PM

Pretty much. Certain games are still going to slow you down regardless though.
November 5, 2012 9:29:24 PM

Deemo13 said:
Pretty much. Certain games are still going to slow you down regardless though.

thank you soooooo much and have a good night Deemo
a b B Homebuilt system
November 5, 2012 11:09:53 PM

No problem. Glad to help!
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