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November 3, 2012 10:47:54 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next few weeks

Budget Range: Around $350 before rebates/shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: All but HDD, keyboard, monitor, GPU

Do you need to buy OS: No I have windows 7

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Microcenter, Newegg.com, Amazon.com

Location: Los Angeles, CA

Parts Preferences: Intel

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050

Additional Comments: I'm a first time builder. I will be buying a 7770 around Christmas time. I really want to buy my cpu/motherboard from Microcenter, even though their motherboard selection is very limited, because with the purchase of an i5-3750k the motherboard is $40 off. I also know the k version is for overclocking but I need to buy it for the motherboard deal. Also not sure if I should go for the Rosewill Challenger or stick with the Antec 300.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I am currently using a 10 year old computer.

Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 (CMPSU-430CXV2) 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM - $16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9 - $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard:GA-B75M-D3H LGA 1155 mATX Intel Motherboard - $34.99 (After $40 off with purchase of i5-3750k)
http://microcenter.com/product/398418/GA-B75M-D3H_LGA_1...

CPU: Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor - $169.99
http://microcenter.com/product/388577/Core_i5_3570K_34G...

Total: $362

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November 3, 2012 11:06:01 PM

why getting a 3570k while you cant overclock on this mobo
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November 3, 2012 11:20:28 PM

the cx 430 now has 2.3v 80+ bronze
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November 3, 2012 11:21:51 PM

mrdowntownkiller said:
why getting a 3570k while you cant overclock on this mobo


You can't use CPU multiplier overclocking on B75 chipset boards, which although is the whole point of a K edition CPU, is not the only way to overclock a CPU. B75 still supports Turbo and BLCK overclocking.

Sure, OP shouldn't pair a K edition CPU with such a board because it won't overclock any better than the non-K edition of the same model and that board simply can't utilize the potential of a K edition CPU, but OP can overclock with that board so long as the BIOS isn't junk.
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November 3, 2012 11:23:01 PM

emperor piehead said:
the cx 430 now has 2.3v 80+ bronze


Yes, but the CX series uses unreliable caps and although it's Corsair, it's still a junk series as a result of its low quality caps. Something such as a similarly priced Antec EarthWatts or Basiq unit would be much more reliable.
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November 3, 2012 11:44:00 PM

Thanks for the quick replies and as for the k version, I explained it in Additional Comments. Also would this PSU be better?
Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Edit: Oh and I will use that case, thanks so much!
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November 3, 2012 11:44:39 PM

blazorthon said:
You can't use CPU multiplier overclocking on B75 chipset boards, which although is the whole point of a K edition CPU, is not the only way to overclock a CPU. B75 still supports Turbo and BLCK overclocking.

Sure, OP shouldn't pair a K edition CPU with such a board because it won't overclock any better than the non-K edition of the same model and that board simply can't utilize the potential of a K edition CPU, but OP can overclock with that board so long as the BIOS isn't junk.

isn't the 3570 non k can still get the boost from this mobo ?
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November 3, 2012 11:48:22 PM

Yes, that one is better. It's somewhat overkill on power delivery, but it should be fine and nothing else that is as good and modular can be had cheaper AFAIK right now, lower power delivery or not.
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November 3, 2012 11:57:57 PM

mrdowntownkiller said:
isn't the 3570 non k can still get the boost from this mobo ?


Yes, non K edition i5s can also overclock through Turbo Boost and the BLCK.
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November 4, 2012 1:10:41 AM

I told you why I got the k version in the additional comments but I'll explain it again I guess. The k version comes with a deal, $40 off my mobo, so I decided to just get it instead of the other models
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November 4, 2012 1:31:03 AM

Also check out the Seasonic S12II 430B and the psu database at RealHardTechX.com. Frys has a MSI Radeon 7770 For $90 after MIR this week.
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November 4, 2012 1:50:38 AM

I really like the PSU I picked out because it's modular.
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November 4, 2012 1:52:24 AM

I got that, I was simply answering his/her question about the CPU.
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November 4, 2012 5:38:25 PM

So after compiling all the suggestions this is the new build

Case: Antec Gaming Series One Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: SeaSonic S12II 430B 430W ATX12V V2.3/EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM - $16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9 - $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo:GA-B75M-D3H LGA 1155 mATX Intel Motherboard - $34.99
http://microcenter.com/product/398418/GA-B75M-D3H_LGA_1...

CPU: Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor - $169.99
http://microcenter.com/product/388577/Core_i5_3570K_34G...

Total: $372
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November 5, 2012 12:07:49 AM

I really won't need the extra power of OC so I think I'm going to stick with a B75. I am still kind of wondering which PSU I should get, the seasonic or the modular antec. Help anyone?
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November 5, 2012 1:35:06 AM

The Antec is what I'd argue for if you want a modular PSU. It's a very good PSU and modular PSUs can be much more convenient to build computers with than non-modular PSUs. If you don't mind having a non-modular PSU, then I'd skip out on the Antec for a lower wattage PSU such as that Seasonic or an Antec Basiq 430W or EarthWatts 430W.
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November 6, 2012 2:14:24 AM

Yes, but the Antec VP 450 is a tier 2 power supply, and is only 35 dollars. Based on tests, at max load it can actually pull 550W, a full 100W more than stated, and still retain 81% efficiency. It's a cheap alternative to a Seasonic, basically (basiq-ally ;D). It's been recommended multiple times in Tom's Hardware's System Builder Marathons.
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November 6, 2012 3:42:43 AM

Yeah, that's another PSU to consider.
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November 6, 2012 10:10:02 PM

I think I will use that PSU unless somebody else convinces me otherwise. I'm pretty confident everything is finalized, here is the build.

Case: Antec Gaming Series One Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply - $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM - $19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9 - $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo:GA-B75M-D3H LGA 1155 mATX Intel Motherboard - $34.99
http://microcenter.com/product/398418/GA-B75M-D3H_LGA_1...

CPU: Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor - $169.99
http://microcenter.com/product/388577/Core_i5_3570K_34G...

Total: $355
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November 6, 2012 11:51:16 PM

No, it's not better. Having higher wattage doesn't make it better, especially considering the fact that it has inferior build quality with its bad caps. It's not a bad model, but it's not better and I wouldn't even call it as good as the VP 450. Besides, the VP 450 can be bought at Amazon (it's in stock) cheaper than Newegg is charging anyway.
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November 7, 2012 9:55:22 PM

If the Antec VP-450 is still sold out from NewEgg when I order I will buy from Amazon.

fearless1 said:
this ram: http://www.microcenter.com/product/382099/Ballistix_Spo...(PC3-10600)_CL9_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory_Kit_(Two_4GB_Memory_Modules)

This DVD drive
http://www.microcenter.com/product/401744/24x_SATA_Inte...

this case;
http://www.microcenter.com/product/323929/V3_Black_Edit...

if you want upgrade the 1333 ram to 1600 for 5$ more.

I will pick up the 1600 ram, even though NewEgg reports it's timing as 10-10-10-28. Not so sure about the drive/case though. I think I'll stick with mine on that.
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November 8, 2012 9:15:37 PM

So, here it is; I doubt much can be improved, but please prove me wrong!

Case: Antec Gaming Series One Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply - $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM - $19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3-1600 - $30
http://microcenter.com/product/382101/Ballistix_Sport_8...

Mobo:GA-B75M-D3H LGA 1155 mATX Intel Motherboard - $34.99
http://microcenter.com/product/398418/GA-B75M-D3H_LGA_1...

CPU: Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor - $169.99
http://microcenter.com/product/388577/Core_i5_3570K_34G...

Total: $345
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November 10, 2012 1:43:15 AM

I don't like that Biostar board. The SATA placement is a little worse and there isn't really an important advantage in chipset going from B75 to H77 IIRC.
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November 10, 2012 2:19:58 AM

So it's not worth the extra USB ports and SATA 6Gb/s?
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November 10, 2012 3:15:49 AM

SATA 6Gb/s is only worth having if you're using SSDs or such. Hard drives have little to no benefit from it because their platters aren't fast enough to be bottle-necked by SATA 3Gb/s (most of even the fastest aren't even bottle-necked by SATA 1.5Gb/s) and although their cache can be bottle-necked by SATA 3Gb/s, it's usually not a large performance difference. Having more than the one SATA 6Gb/s port on the B75 motherboard is unlikely to be important unless you want to have two high-performance SSDs. I don't see much good reason to have two of them.

1 more rear USB 3.0 port doesn't seem important (are you really going to use two USB 3.0 external drives or other such devices that are bottle-necked by USB 2.0?) and two more front USB ports seems similarly unimportant to me. If you think that you'll use them, then get a board with more, but I doubt that you would use them.
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November 10, 2012 5:22:20 AM

blazorthon said:
Yes, non K edition i5s can also overclock through Turbo Boost and the BLCK.



Turbo is not an OVERclock, anything in Intel spec does not qualify as an overclock.

As for BCLK OCing : Horrible idea... Thousand of issues can be caused by this because by raising the BCLK you increase the rate at which everything operates, even from PCI-e(worst possible scenario is you damage a GPU).
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November 10, 2012 5:33:39 AM

Novuake said:
Turbo is not an OVERclock, anything in Intel spec does not qualify as an overclock.

As for BCLK OCing : Horrible idea... Thousand of issues can be caused by this because by raising the BCLK you increase the rate at which everything operates, even from PCI-e(worst possible scenario is you damage a GPU).


You misunderstood. You can modify Turbo settings to overclock the CPU outside of stock specifications. I'm not counting the stock Turbo frequencies as overclocking, I'm counting raises Turbo settings over stock Turbo as overclocking because it is overclocking.

BLCK overclocking is fine, you just can't stably get much out of it. An overclock of a few MHz is extremely unlikely to cause any issues and causing damage from it is damn near impossible.
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November 10, 2012 5:47:10 AM

koi_fish said:
I really won't need the extra power of OC so I think I'm going to stick with a B75. I am still kind of wondering which PSU I should get, the seasonic or the modular antec. Help anyone?

Seasonic is as good/better than corsair iin my opinion. I'd personally go with the seasonic.
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November 10, 2012 5:53:40 AM

GreedFusion said:
Seasonic is as good/better than corsair iin my opinion. I'd personally go with the seasonic.


Seasonic builds most of Antec's better units (Seasonic builds PSUs for a lot of the high-quality models from several other companies including Corsair, Antec, PCP&P, XFX, and more).
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November 10, 2012 6:03:08 AM

youtube.com/razethew0rld mentions seasonic ALOT. I did some research and yeah. pretty great.
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November 10, 2012 5:54:06 PM

I mean, the i5 3570k was pretty much built with that in mind. If you're going to have it, you may as well have the hardware to go with it that will further future proof your system. If you decide to upgrade your system to something else after a while, you'll have the stuff to play around with on your first system before you go nuts on your next if you DO want to OC anything.
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November 10, 2012 6:57:56 PM

I don't really need this computer to last me a long time though
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November 10, 2012 10:36:11 PM

blazorthon said:
I don't like that Biostar board. The SATA placement is a little worse and there isn't really an important advantage in chipset going from B75 to H77 IIRC.

Just curious, what is so bad about the SATA placement?
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November 10, 2012 10:59:08 PM

koi_fish said:
Just curious, what is so bad about the SATA placement?


The SATA ports on that board are more *in the way*. That B75 board has its two white SATA ports tucked away nice and adjacent to the motherboard for excellent cabling job and the rest of its SATA ports are right next to the second PCI slot where not even a large dual-slot video card would be blocking them and they don't block the rest of the headers like the SATA ports on that H77 board do.

You might not care, but it'd be a somewhat messier cable management job and that can possibly mean inferior case air flow. It shouldn't be a major issue, but it doesn't seem worth the hassle to me.
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November 10, 2012 11:00:33 PM

blazorthon said:
The SATA ports on that board are more *in the way*. That B75 board has its two white SATA ports tucked away nice and adjacent to the motherboard for excellent cabling job and the rest of its SATA ports are right next to the second PCI slot where not even a large dual-slot video card would be blocking them and they don't block the rest of the headers like the SATA ports on that H77 board do.

You might not care, but it'd be a somewhat messier cable management job and that can possibly mean inferior case air flow. It shouldn't be a major issue, but it doesn't seem worth the hassle to me.

The main thing the H77 has over the B75 is a small OC right?
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November 10, 2012 11:03:51 PM

koi_fish said:
The main thing the H77 has over the B75 is a small OC right?


Not that I'm aware of (I think that they can both do Turbo settings overclocking and BLCK frequency overclocking). H77's main advantage is somewhat better chipset connectivity and more IGP-feature related advantages IIRC.
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December 4, 2012 2:40:35 AM

Best answer selected by koi_fish.
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