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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2012 2:41:19 PM

Intel i3 2100 ( will upgrade next year)
ASrock z75 mobo
1440x900 monitor ( I want it to be future proof, so I decided between these two)
Many have told me to upgrade my PSU, which I will but have not decided on what.

Nvidia's GTX 660ti has cool Kepler only stuff like TXAA and adaptive v-sync (which will be useful for the future).

I'm sure AMD's 7870 will have great competitive features, but I don't know any. Can anyone explain?

Only thing I know about 7870 is that it has larger bandwidth, bu will it be useful for my 1440x900 (won't upgrade, I have a tiny desk)?Also, my mobo has crossfirex support, so maybe it will be more future-proof?

I really want to see what the 7870 can do, I don't want to be Nvidia all the time (last non Nvidia was an ATI x1300 non-pro). Please explain the card for me.

Thanks

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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2012 2:50:54 PM

Playing at 1440x900 the gtx 560 ti will be able to play BF3 on ultra settings smoothly as well as things like High Texture Skyrim and Crysis 2, also the MSI hawk card is on a pretty good sale right now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you see yourself upgrading your resolution at any time though you should consider the gtx 660 ti over the 7870. The 660 ti is great in single-monitor situations and is definitely more powerful than the 7870. It only starts to slow up in comparison when resolutions are increased.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2012 2:57:26 PM

You're right, in fact, my family uses a GTX 560 (non-ti) and after "testing" BF3 on their 1080p monitor, I was able to get Ultra pretty smoothly. A ti on 1440x900 would work well. But the thing is, with the HD 7870 being $50 more (MSI), I might as well go next gen.

I live in Singapore (Ni hao ma), so I prefer buying through amazon, which accepts int'l credit cards. So when I go there to "visit"my sister in US (very frequently, and SG products are much more expensive nowadays)
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2012 3:55:44 PM

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008E6XJYG/?tag=pcpapi-20 This is 199.99 at amazon.com.

The HD7850 is as fast as(if not faster than) a gtx560ti. This xfx model has a copper heatpipe
heatsink/fan that keeps the gpu cool and quiet. With overclocking , it could beat gtx580.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008VXYWV6/?tag=pcpapi-20 This is 299.99 at amazon.com.

This Zotac gtx660ti has a very effective dual fan cooler. Reviews have shown it to stay quiet
while keeping temps in check. This card should also overclock fairly well.

Both of these cards are relatively short, so they should fit in most any standard enclosure.

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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2012 3:57:06 PM

Among the two cards amd 7870 and nvidia 660ti, 7870 beats 660 with higher setting with (AA anti-aliasing) on. If u main aim is BF3 then 660 is better choice.

I would choose none of these if my budget is 660 ti level. I would buy a amd 7950 which is similarly priced as 660 ti. 1080p monitors r pretty cheap now a days and 7950 will be a better future proof.
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2012 3:58:00 PM

U will also have to upgrade ur psu.
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2012 4:06:52 PM

@ajaxmaru

The OP already stated they are getting a better psu.

HD7950 costs more than gtx660ti at amazon now, and that is the OP's preferred site
since they can use int'l credit card when visiting sister in US.

Yes a gtx660ti may well do better in BF3. An overclocked 7850 would do AA well in any game
(at the OP's res). No room on the desk for bigger screen, so no upgrade there.
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September 7, 2012 4:15:57 PM

There isn't such a huge difference between the 7870 and the 660ti. Both cards perform similarly at 1080p, maybe the 660ti is a bit faster at that resolution. With that said, I don't like the 192 bit bus on the 660ti.

If you can get a better price for the 7870 then go for it.
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2012 5:10:21 PM

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U will also have to upgrade ur psu.



The OP never said what his PSU was. My crystal ball is apparently in need of an upgrade because yours works much better.
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2012 5:21:17 PM

If you post what your PSU model is we can comment if you require a new one. It is very likely you wont if you go with a 7870 or 660ti since either of those will have your total system wattage at right around 300 watts.

You can calculate yourself using more details that you did not provide like number of fans, hard drives etc: http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine
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a b U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 1:17:49 AM

JamesSneed said:
If you post what your PSU model is we can comment if you require a new one. It is very likely you wont if you go with a 7870 or 660ti since either of those will have your total system wattage at right around 300 watts.

You can calculate yourself using more details that you did not provide like number of fans, hard drives etc: http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

Oh you have no idea.

I have the cooler master 460W. Everyone told me how crappy it is!
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a b U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 1:23:51 AM

jtenorj said:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008E6XJYG/?tag=pcpapi-20 This is 199.99 at amazon.com.

The HD7850 is as fast as(if not faster than) a gtx560ti. This xfx model has a copper heatpipe
heatsink/fan that keeps the gpu cool and quiet. With overclocking , it could beat gtx580.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008VXYWV6/?tag=pcpapi-20 This is 299.99 at amazon.com.

This Zotac gtx660ti has a very effective dual fan cooler. Reviews have shown it to stay quiet
while keeping temps in check. This card should also overclock fairly well.

Both of these cards are relatively short, so they should fit in most any standard enclosure.

Wow. Those are excellent models. I have never seen a shorter GTX 660 ti and the HD 7850 looks very cool. Especially considering you can oc that to max a GTX 580. But the thing is, I suck at OC and frankly I'm a bit scared. I don't like any of this oc stuff (for now maybe). That's why I am going for the GTX 660 to or AMD HD 7870.

The GTX model on the other hand is very good. It maybe referenced clocked, but that means there's room for more oc later in its life. I also like the fact that it's über- short. Thanks thats very nice of you
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a c 196 U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 1:33:50 AM

Right, the CM is near-junk. Not the worst out there, but still unsuitable.
I'd go with the HD7870. Right now, the GTX660Ti may be a little faster in BF3, BUT...1) if the GTX560Ti gives a good experience at 1920x1080, the considerably more powerful HD7870 will be more than sufficient at 1440x900; and 2) next week, or next month, or next year, someone's going to release a killer game that uses OpenCL, and the GTX660Ti will fall flat on its face.
If you liked how the GTX560Ti did at 1920x1080, either get one of those (Fermi has excellent Compute performance), or get a HD7850. Either save it, put the extra money on an i5, or use it to replace your PSU. A quality 500W unit would be sufficient. I'd recommend Seasonic (or anything built by them), Antec, FSP, or Enermax/LEPA.
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a b U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 1:42:57 AM

Onus said:
Right, the CM is near-junk. Not the worst out there, but still unsuitable.
I'd go with the HD7870. Right now, the GTX660Ti may be a little faster in BF3, BUT...1) if the GTX560Ti gives a good experience at 1920x1080, the considerably more powerful HD7870 will be more than sufficient at 1440x900; and 2) next week, or next month, or next year, someone's going to release a killer game that uses OpenCL, and the GTX660Ti will fall flat on its face.
If you liked how the GTX560Ti did at 1920x1080, either get one of those (Fermi has excellent Compute performance), or get a HD7850. Either save it, put the extra money on an i5, or use it to replace your PSU. A quality 500W unit would be sufficient. I'd recommend Seasonic (or anything built by them), Antec, FSP, or Enermax/LEPA.

Thanks a ton, I guess I'll go for a HD 7870 instead. Now, what model would you recommend?
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a b U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 1:43:26 AM

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a c 196 U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 1:51:29 AM

Thanks.
I've got an XFX Double-D "Black" edition of the HD7870 (maxing GW2 @1920x1080). The cooler is effective but quiet, and it's got a mild factory OC on it. The shroud is aluminum, not plastic, so it looks and feels like quality.
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September 8, 2012 1:52:43 AM

I am confusing are you asking about 560 ti or 660 ti???, if you are asking 660 ti, then hands down 660 ti.
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a c 196 U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 2:10:26 AM

No. It may be a little faster, but not enough to make a difference at his resolution, AND there's the possibility that a future game (or other application) that relies on GPGPU compute performance will suck on the Kepler.
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a b U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 4:30:26 AM

Onus said:
Thanks.
I've got an XFX Double-D "Black" edition of the HD7870 (maxing GW2 @1920x1080). The cooler is effective but quiet, and it's got a mild factory OC on it. The shroud is aluminum, not plastic, so it looks and feels like quality.

Yep, kept that as my first choice. Sleeping dogs comes free! Sweet!
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a c 271 U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 8:50:54 AM

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