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September 8, 2012 4:01:33 PM

Hi guys i'm about to upgrade my old pc... making it as a cheap gaming rig here's my specs at the moment:

Brand: HPE-150f
CPU: i7 860 2.8ghz
8GB DDR3 RAM 1066mhz
MOBO:MS-7613 (Iona-GL8E)
Video Card: Nvidia GT 230 1gb DDR2
PSU: 300/350 watt
CASE: Mid Size -ATX
Height: 40 cm (15.75 inches)
Width: 17.78 cm (7 inches)
Length: 43.18 cm (17 inches)

I would like to buy a MSI twin frozr 2gb DDR5 GTX 660Ti and a 650/750 watt PSU corsair TX/HX series...depends on budget...
an 8gb/16gb DDR3 RAM 1333 mhz would be nice too...

Thank You.....

PS: i play a lot of MOBA games like DOTA, HON and especially League of Legends. ( Diablo 3 and Star Craft 2, Dirt 3 )

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a c 177 U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 4:12:50 PM

Sounds like a decent plan, although the PSU is a little more than you'll need.
Unless you do memory intensive jobs like vido/photo editing 8Gb is plenty.
You'll need a 64 bit operating system to use more that 4Gb of memory.
What is your budget?
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a b U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 4:21:55 PM

Get 600 or 650w. More than that is overkill. 8GB is enough. Get the 7950.
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a c 291 U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 6:11:49 PM

GTX 660 Ti will do nicely :) . It will be a huge upgrade!!

Also, I'd suggest getting a CPU cooler and OCing that CPU a bit for extra frame rates.
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a b U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 6:41:17 PM

The PSU i think you should get is the OCZ EliteXStream 800W.It's a pretty old unit but it will do the job well and it's price is pretty amazing.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=29823&vpn=OCZ800EXS&ma...

And you should also check how much clearance does your case have.You might not be able to fit a long graphics card in there.
Also the HD 7950 is better than the GTX 660 Ti and it doesnt cost a lot more either.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 8, 2012 7:13:31 PM

shikiramaru said:
Hi guys i'm about to upgrade my old pc... making it as a cheap gaming rig here's my specs at the moment:

Brand: HPE-150f
CPU: i7 860 2.8ghz
8GB DDR3 RAM 1066mhz
MOBO:MS-7613 (Iona-GL8E)
Video Card: Nvidia GT 230 1gb DDR2
PSU: 300/350 watt
CASE: Mid Size -ATX
Height: 40 cm (15.75 inches)
Width: 17.78 cm (7 inches)
Length: 43.18 cm (17 inches)

I would like to buy a MSI twin frozr 2gb DDR5 GTX 660Ti and a 650/750 watt PSU corsair TX/HX series...depends on budget...
an 8gb/16gb DDR3 RAM 1333 mhz would be nice too...

Thank You.....

PS: i play a lot of MOBA games like DOTA, HON and especially League of Legends. ( Diablo 3 and Star Craft 2, Dirt 3 )


How much are you willing to spend on upgrades?

Parts I think you should keep:
- Keep the i7-860. It's a 2.8GHz (3.46GHz in turbo) quad-core processor with hyper-threading that's still worth between $200-$300. The i7-860 is still a fast processor even today. It'll be way more than fast enough for what you want to do.
- Make sure the motherboard has a PCI-E x16 slot for your new graphics card. If it does, then don't bother replacing the motherboard. Don't bother getting a new graphics card if your motherboard doesn't have a PCI-E x16 slot and you aren't willing to spend the money on a new motherboard.
- Keep the 8GB of RAM. If you happen to need a new motherboard, and the new motherboard doesn't support 1066 RAM, then replace the RAM. If the new motherboard supports 1066 RAM, then there's no point in replacing the RAM.

Buy a new case and power supply. If you're wanting a new graphics card, and you don't want your graphics card to overheat, then do yourself a favour and spend the $50-$60 to get a decent mid-ATX tower. A friend of mine was running his HD 6870 in his generic case (his PC was a pre-built ASUS) and it was running at almost 80 degrees celsius at full load. The next day he bought a Cooler Master HAF 912 mid-ATX case, and when he ran his 6870 at full load in the HAF 912, it was running between 15-20 degrees cooler. Do yourself a favour and buy a decent case.

I don't think I need to talk about why you should get a new power supply...
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a c 291 U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 7:53:31 PM

^
What's wrong with his case? It's a proper mid tower.
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September 8, 2012 8:01:41 PM

Sunius said:
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What's wrong with his case? It's a proper mid tower.


If the case provides enough airflow for the graphics card and the CPU to breathe and to stay cool, then there's no need to replace the case. I was just making a suggestion.
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a c 191 U Graphics card
September 8, 2012 10:16:42 PM

But we don't know what his case is. I have an Antec Sonata Proto, with close to 0 airflow, and it cools just fine.
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a b U Graphics card
September 9, 2012 12:07:13 AM

I wouldn't get the PSU Karmen recommended. An 800w PSU for $25 screams unreliable, and it has a 2.5 star rating with more one star reviews than four and five stars reviews combined. When it comes to the PSU, don't cheap out. Get a reliable unit.
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September 9, 2012 12:59:07 AM

Deemo13 said:
But we don't know what his case is. I have an Antec Sonata Proto, with close to 0 airflow, and it cools just fine.


You know what I mean though. If there's no room at all for the parts to breathe, then of course parts are going to heat up a little bit.
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September 9, 2012 1:03:36 AM

obsama1 said:
I wouldn't get the PSU Karmen recommended. An 800w PSU for $25 screams unreliable, and it has a 2.5 star rating with more one star reviews than four and five stars reviews combined. When it comes to the PSU, don't cheap out. Get a reliable unit.


I agree 100%.
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a b U Graphics card
September 9, 2012 4:26:57 AM

So I searched google for this pc and came up with a few things. hp product page:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01...

click next to the mobo part to see a picture of it. Next up is the support page w/8.73MB pdf:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/manualCategory?produ...

This is not an atx mid tower. It is a micro tower with the mobo installed upside down.
I would hate for one of that mess of cables to get stuck in a video card fan.

Keep the i7 860 and mobo and don't worry about OCing for a while yet:

http://techreport.com/review/23246/inside-the-second-ga...

Performance is between i5 760 and i7 875k. It won't bottleneck current games.

Before I learned about pcpartpicker.com , I used to search stuff using newegg. This works
best if you are in the US or Canada but folks in other countries can read customer reviews.

pcpartpicker.com is such a great tool to not only flesh out possible builds, but find the
best deals on individual components as well. That said, on newegg there's an msi gtx660ti
with twin frozr cooler for 299.99 shipped and an OCed one for the a same after a 10 dollar
rebate and 7.56 shipping. The cheapest HD7950 there is an xfx double dissipation with the
chops to oc and is faster out of the gate than the first msi 660ti. It is 289.99 after a
30 dollar MIR and ships for 7.87

Another option not mentioned yet is HD7870. Only a little slower than 660ti but about 50
bucks cheaper. There's an xfx 7870 double d for 239.99 shipped after a 20 dollar MIR.

The difference can easily be made up by overclocking. All these cards come available from
different partners with either custom cooling or less impressive reference designs. All of
them should overclock some, with the custom cards likely to max out higher.

You should probably get a new case and definitely an new psu. If you are sticking with
that 95w i7 860 and getting a card with 140-175w tdp then you don't need a ton of juice,
just a decent quality unit and almost any case is better than the one you have now.

Here are a few starters that when combined with the 7870 cost less than the 660ti:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This has been the recommended case at the 500 dollar level in the last several System
Builder Marathons here on Tom's Hardware.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

28Amps on the +12v rail(336w) and johnnyguru recommended.

You can spend more if you want, but I don't see much point in that. Any thoughts?
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September 9, 2012 6:08:41 AM

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September 9, 2012 6:21:26 AM

OMG!!!! Thank you so much for all the effort!! And to the other guys too!! i never thought i would get so many help here....
here's my budget and other info of my old pc..



$600-650
My OS is Windows 7 Ultimate! 64bit
My case Is from the product itself. Kinda small for 660Ti/7950!!

So im assuming that you know my MOBO specs...
My question is will i be able to insert these video cards to my mobo without any bad side effects? Like slowing down or crashing....?
is it necessary to upgrade my RAM? To 1333mhz...or making it 16gb.
my PSU would be the corsair TX 650, its kinda cheap and good brand,,but if you can suggest any better 80 plus gold/bronze PSU ill take your advice...
im willing to add another $100 for good air flow case and good looking too!!:) :) :) 
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September 9, 2012 6:32:35 AM

Sunius said:
GTX 660 Ti will do nicely :) . It will be a huge upgrade!!

Also, I'd suggest getting a CPU cooler and OCing that CPU a bit for extra frame rates.



Hello sir.... Im not willing to OC my CPU yet,,,because i dont know how to..lol..
And yes i probably need a cpu cooler!! my stock cpu fan is loud as hell..
Im eyeing the Cooler master gt v6/ or a very very good low end cooling fan..my budget is onyl $650..
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a c 271 U Graphics card
September 9, 2012 7:05:22 AM

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